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Now, I am in all into music, I love all the heavy rock like Godsmack and System of a Down.  I think these bands have a lot of talent playing instruments and stuff.  However, I can't stand boy bands such as Backstreet Boys and N'Sync.  These guys have no talent.  Their voices just blend together to make them sound good.  And their dancing, man I could do stuff like that if I had choreographers like they do.  They don't have much talent at all, yet they are still more popular than skilled musicians such as Static-X and Staind. *sigh* i feel a lil better now!

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1 posted 12-08-2001 11:20 PM       View Profile for Allan Riverwood   Email Allan Riverwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Allan Riverwood

I know how you feel, although I don't consider "system of a down" or "godsmack" to be "heavy" music.  You should listen to some of the really good stuff, like Rammstein, In Flames, My Dying Bride, Front Line Assembly, :wumpscut:... the list goes on.

In any case, YES, I feel your pain!  Mainstream music has turned into the most sickly garbage on the face of the planet.  All of the very best music has submerged into an underground sub-culture of people (probably 10% of the youth population, but higher in adults) who listen to their music NOT because they find the artists attractive, or simply because they want to be seen listening to the music or say that they listen to the music to seem "cool" (EMINEM)... but rather because they appreciate the lyrical and musical value!  

There's some magnificent musical groups and artists, who just do not get as much credit as they deserve because they aren't media objects like Limp Bizkit (UGH!) or The Backstreet Boys.  Even rap music... so redundant, so terrible... and why is this music mainstream?

It says a lot about the state of society.  But man, I hear you.

~Allan

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ugh..I've listened to Godsmack, and I don't like it. I'm not saying they don't have talent, but I do not enjoy them. As for Backstreet Boys or NSYNC, I suppose I'm a little blocked by my attitude about music that is manufactured. Grab a group of young people, throw them in front of someone in a suit sitting behind a desk, and wham..there they are on the music scene based on statistics and not on their own personal talent. Ick...A lot of the music these days are manufactured if you ask me, but it doesn't mean that they don't have personal talent. Its just that the stuffy image building people like to squash individual talent by creating a hype with sensational outward appearance instead of getting to the heart of the artist. Am I making sense? LOL! I don't know. I'm certainly rambling

As for judgement on talent..I'm sure that is a matter of opinion.  

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I love my music, and I love my musicians to have talent. From the beautiful and melodic soundscapes of Pink Floyd and Dream Theater to the heart wrought tunes of Michael Hedges, I love artists who can assemble beautiful music.

I used to love the whole heavy metal scene, Godsmack and other bands along that line, but I'm just not into it any more. The only band from that genre I like is Alice in Chains, and their angst and pain was certainly found the hard way.. Other than AiC, Iron Maiden, Queensryche and Dream Theater are as heavy as I usually go.

It makes me sick to see these so called 'artists' singing others peoples musics to synthesized beats with very little instrumental quality.. Sometimes little vocal quality. I don't mind music if it's popular, but I want it to be somewhat original, to say something...

The other thing that bothers me is all the covers that the new "bands" are doing. Limp Bizkit et al covered "Wish You Were Here" argh.. that ticked me off... And my brother, a person who loves "rap music" is still convinced Puffy Daddy-P. Diddy the insecure wrote "Every Breath I Take."  *Sigh*

Won't original, meaningful music that isn't synthesized make a comeback?

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Actually, it was Incubus who did a song "Wish you were here" and it's not a cover of Pink Floyd.

LOL, I wouldn't call Godsmack or Systm of a Down talented music. There is very little on the radio lately that is any good. I have come to depend on word of mouth for my music...

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I seldom listen to heavy metal music, mainly because I can't understand the lyrics, which seem to be overpowered by the guitars and stuff. On the other hand, I often listen to opera, particularly Italian singers, and I don't understand those lyrics either. But that is overcome by the sound of the voice. The human voice is the most beautiful instrument of all(IMHO). While not a huge fan of the Backstreet Boys/NSYNC/Brittney Spears etc., I do like the lyrics to a few of their songs, while totally despising some others. Spears has a vocal talent she is wasting, and Christina Aguillera has one of the best voices around as long as I don't have to look at her. Beautiful girl, no taste. But to each her own. These groups are way out of my age range (I'm 40) but there aren't a lot of groups from my day that I listen to. (Disco sucks!) I listen to country, classical, rock, pop, opera, blues, bluegrass - if I had to pick my all time favorites - Aerosmith, Edwin McCain, Etta James, Andrea Bocelli, Billy Idol, John Berry (a seriously underrated country singer), The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Steppenwolf, Pink Floyd and Elton John's old stuff. And Tchaikovsky.
Ok so I'm eclectic. Sue me hehehe  

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While I must plead ignorance to the groups you're talking about (out here in backward Orstraya...   ) I do listen to a huge variety of music. Running down the list of my small CD collection, I have Anastacia, Backstreet Boys, Boyzone, BoyzIIMen, (lots of "boy", I know!) Adam Brand (Aussie country), Brooks and Dunn, The Corrs, "The Crucible" soundtrack, Dido, Gregorian monks' chants, Adam Harvey (more Aussie country) Faith Hill, Ronan Keating, Chris LeDoux, Don McLean, Johnny O'Keefe, Leann Rimes, "Romeo & Juliet" soundtrack, Brittney Spears, Quindon Tarver, "Tarzan" soundtrack and Shania Twain. While I know there's a lot of country, which I quite enjoy, if I were to tell you what I had on Winamp... we'd be here forever!

There's a huge array of music, to suit all tastes. Boy bands such as Backstreet Boys do seem to be manufactured, but there's a market for groups like this, and record copanies can't ignore this fact.

I guess it's always best to give everything a go. You may be pleasantly surprised, or you may find you can't stand it. My boyfriend laughed when I said I would like the Gregorian monks CD. When I bought it and listened to it, he really likes it! This is coming from someone who listens to Live, The Bloodhound Gang, Nirvana, The Offspring, et cetera. I'm not saying there is something wrong with any of these groups, because I listen to them also. It's just a matter of taste.

And that's my five cents!

Bec  


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I hear ya Randy! I love all different kinds of music. I love Madonna..you can say many things about her but she is very talented and original.
I love linkin park, staind, nickelback and creed. A lot of the songs by these bands are very deep and I can relate to them perfectly as they were my life story.
As for miss spears, granted she is beautiful BUT..In my opinion she has a nasal voice and needs voice lessons. She's a great performer though.
Personally, I think in five years from now nsync, bsb, britney, and o town are all going to fade out and be just a memory.
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sigh....It's true. I'm old. (grinning like mad now, and it's gonna happen to YOU too, but only if you're lucky!)

(serenity exits, via a "walker"...)
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O Town? Who's O Town?

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lol like you don't know them sky ... haha
but I don't like all tha boy bands and i really dont like brittany spears, its like look at me, look at me! blah blah
I like the metal, slipknot,disturbed,godsmack, etc .. all them they are awesome. oh and can't forget linkin park.

All tha "popstarz" are just out there to be famous and look good, they don't care about their music that much, there just in it for poblisity*sp?* yeah i can't spell, hopefully you get whut i'm sayin here?
but I do like tha rap music, not all of them dance in their video's, some of them ride around in their "bling toys" lol .. and like skinny women, with big boobs. And they try to be "perfect", I hate ta tell them this NO ONE IS PERFECT, even though they try ta be.
anyways
i know whut i said had no point in it, but i dont care.

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Hey, isn't O-Town the one that sang that song about liking girls who wear Abercrombie and Fitch? Or was that LFO or something? I don't know, they're all the same... heh heh.

Actually, since this thread ahs come up, radio quality has improved... at least around here. I like the new Nickelback songs (even if they are overplayed), new 311 has been good, even Sum 41 has grown on me as old-fashioned rebellious punk music. Dashboard Confessional's Best Deceptions is absolutely awesome, actually wow-worthy, and they've (at least the local station i like) been bringing back some good ol' songs, like No Rain by Blind Melon, some older Our Lady Peace stuff, Jane's Addiction, Goo Goo Dolls, and so forth.

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yeah hush that was LFO hehehhee
I met them in person, they are nice guys.

I like sum41...and p.o.d
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I'm afraid I can't quite agree. I like classical music, so there you are...

I give a whole new meaning to the word 'sad.'

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as Madonna says...MUSIC..makes the people come together ..(at least for the grammy's)
hehehe Don't forget to watch the grammy awards everyone, feb 27th, 8pm I believe
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I'd really have to say that based upon everybody's opinions, people can't justify in any concrete fashion as to what kind of music is "good" or "bad". Everything as far as music is concerned is GOOD, and everything is BAD for somebody out there in this world.
Fact is, though, and in my opinion, any band or group that is formed by some sort of agency and strictly for little girls to drool over. Any band that bases their music mainly on their fan base composed of girls who will quickly lose interest once they grow up disregard the pedastal they've invented for their ideal teeny-bopper sexy pet...haha once that goes then the group or band will fall into pieces. That day will be wonderful for me.
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I'd say the best music is always that which is graceful and sincere. Really, I think the only time music is bad is either if someone lies and is being bitter and hypocritical or if someone tries to follow the same image as another, like boy bands. It's not that they are bad people or anything, just not taking to heart the creative potential they possess. and that's when music goes sour.

Otherwise, music is a true gift, and I encourage all to follow their freedom of voice and sing with optimum soul!

Sincerely,
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Pardon me but y'all didn't list some of the best artists and groups who have ever graced the charts:

ABBA
Barry Manilow
Air Supply
Gloria Gaynor
The Village People
Joan Jett
Billy Idol
Depeche Mode
Yani
Cake
Crash Test Dummies
They Might Be Giants
Tear for Fears
Eurythmics

Just to name a few...

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lol Jp I agree, but you aged us by years.

Jason

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Rap music (Doggy, Ditty, Droopy), pop music (Spears, NSYNC), nu-metal music (Creed, Godsmack) are all the same = commercialized music for the masses.

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I'm with JP (even if that means I am letting my age show).....lol

Marilyn
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This is actually an interesting discussion. I got into it with a few musicians I was hanging out with the other night on this very topic. They were on the side of *AAAACCCCKKK* on the boy bands. I tend to take a different viewpoint.
Although I am not normally a fan of the "boy band" genre, I do feel that there is a great amount of talent involved. Everyone talks trash about them being this or being that, but the fact is that they are up there for you to gripe about. For whatever reason, they have the talent to pull it off. Maybe you can do it better, but they are doing it.
Besides... Has anyone ever heard of the Temptations, the Four Tops, Boys II Men, the Coasters, the Drifters, etc??? They sing, they dance, they don't write their own music, they are legends. Where's the difference?
As far as not writing their own music, O-Town DOES write their own songs. And they play instruments during their performance as well. Frank Sinatra NEVER wrote a single note of music. Nor did Tony Bennett, or Bing Crosby, or Elvis... yet they are not vilified for "only getting on stage, singing and dancing".
There are also HUGE rock bands that sing other peoples music. Kiss, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Elton John, Metallica, and Kid Rock are just among a few of the artists that sing songs that they either did not write at all, or had help from professional song writers. Yet they all sell out the venue EVERY TIME they perform.
It's amazing how people's perceptions determine their viewpoints, and not the actual historical facts behind the discussion.
Just my thoughts

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So I look for the light through the pouring rain...

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To compare the great great Frank Sinatra to today's "Boy bands" is taking a leap across an unleapable canyon.

[This message has been edited by Opeth (05-16-2003 10:59 AM).]

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Personally, I don't like today's pop music because it is too simple and too easy to understand.

I need to be "musically challenged."

If one wants to be musically challenged, Tchaikovsky's 1st movement of his 6th symphony is great place to start.  

[This message has been edited by Opeth (05-16-2003 11:02 AM).]

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These guys have no talent.  Their voices just blend together to make them sound good.  
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While these groups you mentioned aren't on my listening list either, re-read what you wrote.
Seems to me it takes talent to
blend together in harmony.

My only musical complaint? Driving or walking down the street and being subjected to someone else's idea of music blasted at 120+ decibel levels.
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