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epoet
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0 posted 12-05-2001 12:12 PM       View Profile for epoet   Email epoet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for epoet


Can someone please explain why people act so weird when they find out someone has a tattoo?  I've been mulling this over for a week now and can't figure it out.  A friend of mine for the last 10 years recently found out that I have 5 tattoos.  He went nuts and started telling me that I was an evil person and that I was going to hell when I die.
   This bothered me considering the fact that all the tattoos I have are very tasteful and have something to do with a particular time, event or period of my life.  I was irritated that someone I trusted and thought was my friend would be so....   Anyway, I didn't know what else to say or how to even understand why he would say that.  I don't think there is any harm in having a tattoo.
  The five I have are of the scales of justice (which coincidentally is also the sign of the zodiac for us libras), a pegasus flying with a moon and blue clouds behind it (for my love of science fiction and fantasy novels), a feather pen with an inkpot and an old piece of parchment with the words CARPE DIEM on it (representing my love for poetry and my personal philosophy of seizing the day), comedy and tragedy masks (my connection to my sister and my love for theater), and a clown with a derby with a rose in it and a cigar in his mouth and a teardrop on his face (my friend designed this one, I always clowned around with everyone I knew when I was stationed in Louisiana.  Every girl I knew I made sure got flowers on their birthday and I always wore a hat of some kind and always had either a cigar or cigarette lit.  The teardrop was added because she didn't want me to leave.)
  I don't mean to rattle on like this but these tattoos are special to me.  So for me to be told I was evil because of them hurt.  I just don't understand am I a bad person because of the fact that I have tattoos?

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1 posted 12-05-2001 01:11 PM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

well, I have 5 tattoos also. I have them for similar reasons. They MEAN something to me, and represent a time or a part of, my life, or of me. I love tattoos.  

  NO, there is nothing wrong with them at all. Your "friend" has a problem or a hangup. How in the world this person thinks you will go to hell for a tattoo is nuts. I'd personally avoid someone that stupid.

   I love the way you described your tattoos. I bet they are great!   I'm sorry your friend hurt you with ignorance. That really sucks.

People with tattoos are the same as everyone else, we just happen to be decorated.   It's no different from folks who color their hair, or pierce something. You are adding to who you are. It doesn't change your heart.

I hope that helps some.  
(((hugs)))
~SEA
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2 posted 12-05-2001 01:54 PM       View Profile for Irish Rose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irish Rose

Sweetie, tell them to mind their own business. If someone is worth having as a friend, they'll take you as one for who you are. Life is too short to try to please everyone, if you enjoy having it, that's all that counts!

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3 posted 12-05-2001 09:21 PM       View Profile for Dusk Treader   Email Dusk Treader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dusk Treader

I happen to have a tattoo myself, and it has meaning to me too. I agree with what I believe the others have said that if this person you told can't respect you for the person you are, then I'm not sure he's worth it. Especially if the reason for being so angry is something so superficial. If he still is acting the same way after having a chance to calm down, he may not be worth it.

"A hard, cold wisom is required for goodness to accomplish good. Goodness without wisdom always accomplishes evil" - Robert Heinlein

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4 posted 12-05-2001 11:28 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

I have no tattoos, but if someone wants one, I don't care! Go for it! It's their body and as long as they're tastefully done it's fine. Perhaps your friend is being ignorant and associates tattoos with bad people (like bikers (who I don't think are bad, some people might though) or gang members maybe?). I don't know, just a thought.  

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5 posted 12-06-2001 09:13 AM       View Profile for PhaerieChild   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PhaerieChild

I know what you mean. I have 4 tattoos and when people see them they think some pretty bizarre thoughts. I had a minister tell me once that my tats were the work of Satan. (It doesn't help that I am also a female.) Get real...my tats are there because they mean something to me. To ME!! I don't even bother trying to explain them anymore. If a person wants to be my friend, they take me as is. If not, well I can only consider it their loss. I am sorry that a person that you felt so close to has chosen to get so weird about it. Hopefully after awhile that person will see you as the whole package and not just a little ink.

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where it kisses my face and eats my head. Shivaree

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6 posted 12-06-2001 10:09 PM       View Profile for Irie   Email Irie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irie


Your friend is clearly mistaken about what he has read in the Bible or what someone has told him.
See, I too have a tat and like it and am even thinking about getting another.

It does say in the Bible that we should not mark our bodies as they are temples.
But it doesn't say that we'll go to hell for piercing ears, other body parts or getting tattoo's.

You can tell your friend that the Bible also says THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE!

I hope you are able to work through this. A true friend, in my opinion, would not have lashed out at you like that.


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7 posted 12-07-2001 05:33 AM       View Profile for The Lonely Stranger   Email The Lonely Stranger   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for The Lonely Stranger

"You can tell your friend that the Bible also says THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE!"

Actually, the Bible does not say that. "Thou shalt not..." is a prefix for items in the 10 commandments. I find that people tend to take Christs admonition to "Judge not, lest Ye be judged" as a blank check. We seem to think that because other humans shouldn't judge us that we will escape judgement.

That said ..... I find myself asking ... whats wrong with tattoos ?? I mean I wouldn't get one, cause I hear they hurt and I'm a big wuss. But if you wan't one, why not get one ?? Is it any different than hair coloring, a boob job, pierced ears or liposuction?

No one ever listened themselves into trouble.

[This message has been edited by The Lonely Stranger (edited 12-07-2001).]

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8 posted 12-07-2001 06:59 AM       View Profile for Sudhir Iyer   Email Sudhir Iyer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sudhir Iyer

Well, I think having tattoos painted or piercing done is your personal choice.

However, if you are married or together with someone (pleading infinite love), the other half is entitled to be asked of his/her opinion and if he/she is comfortable with someone he/she loves doing such a thing.

I do not have a tattoo, but I might have one on me. But, when or where etc. is still my decision, and if it is after marriage, I will ask my Wife for her opinion. If she doesn't fancy the idea and I can't convince her, I will not have the tattoo.

I do not think that there is anything Godly or Anti-Godly about tattoos, or this discussion itself...

Thanks for allowing me to speak...

Regards,
Sudhir
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9 posted 12-08-2001 10:46 AM       View Profile for anonymousfemale   Email anonymousfemale   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for anonymousfemale

Your friend said this? Unbelievable. I'm sorry too that your friend has hurt you this way.

There is nothing wrong with tattoos but I personally would never get one if you paid me. Many of my friends have tats and I've never seen them as any different. My brother got one and although I ragged him for it for ages, you come to the realisation that a little bit of ink doesn't change the person. So tell your friend to get lost and live life the way YOU want.  

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10 posted 12-09-2001 11:22 PM       View Profile for Bec   Email Bec   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bec

A man I know used to be a tattooist, is covered tattoos from neck to feet, including arms, and used to ride a Harley Davidson.

This same man used to do fundraising for the Children's Hospital, loves his children and grandchildren to pieces and has welcomed me into his home.

There's nothing wrong with tattoos. Some of the nicest people I know have tattoos. So why not go and get another one? :P

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11 posted 01-02-2002 12:04 AM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

SEA, can we see all your tattoo's...

Parker
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Hey Parker!  You and I are on the same wavelength I just sent her an email LOL, and heck forget the person who judged you, judge not, less yee be judged.  You know who you are, they obviously are not sure who they are.  Viva le or la tattoo - and Sea, answer my email LOL.

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13 posted 01-02-2002 10:19 AM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

Parker, when I get my digital camera, I promise, I will take pictures of my tattoos and send them to you. Mysteria, i sent you an email I am wanting another, I want a SEA horse on the back of my neck, so when I put my hair up, you could see it. I have one all picked out too. Fairly small, but not too small. It's really pretty
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SEA, I'm holding you to it.
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15 posted 01-02-2002 01:57 PM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

hey Handsome, I hope so
yes, I really will.
Be patient though,
I know for sure we are getting the camera before June,so somewhere in there, you'll get them
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epoet, don't let your friend get to you! I think tattoos express individuality! People have told me that I am going to go to hell just because I have a tongue ring.
I plan on getting a tattoo very soon, and I don't think people should look at me any differently because of it. You go ahead and show off those tattoos proudly, they are art!

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June..... come on sweety..... just lay down on your scanner and press flash... errr I mean scan.

did somebody say tongue ring... hmmm i'll be good.

anybody got a bellybutton ring to admit to. (my favorite).

I use to think all these body modifications were kind of odd.... then I found them interesting and now they just seem so sexy.
Like anything in life, change is hard on people and then it becomes a fashion and maybe just common. Alot of the things that these people accept today as ok and normal in other times and even other places today would be looked at as weird or strange, and simbols of the devil or whatnot. They will get over it.

Although bright yellow spandex bell bottoms, burn em, burn em, burn em at the stake..... They are the work of the devil I know it....lol

In Canada we made it legal for women to go topless in public. Can't get more advanced then that.
All the men were cheering for that law....
In support of womens rights, I mean.


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Parker~ before June Handsome, I go on vacation the first week of June.... I'll see what I can do...

I want a belly ring...hmmmm now I'm thinking maybe I should LOL looks like it'll hurt pretty good though...

tattoos are just self expression. Not the work of the devil like those yellow spandex bell bottoms Handsome was talking about, yuck......all bell bottoms are yucky.....
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19 posted 01-03-2002 01:24 AM       View Profile for Mother_Earth   Email Mother_Earth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mother_Earth

I thought tattoo's were gross.  Now I think most of my grandkids have them, plus the rings in places I never thought they could be.  So it is better to except them and be careful when I give them a hug.  

[This message has been edited by Mother_Earth (01-03-2002 01:26 AM).]

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I am sorry your "friend" said those things to you.
First if you've read the Bible then you know it's the soul that leaves the body when we die and not our physical bodies as we know it, and where we end up has NOTHING to do with tatoos. God looks at what is in our heart, not at body art... your friend must have a problem.
I have seen some tatoos that are really ugly, and some that are nice looking.
I have freckles, that's about a thousand little tatoos...  
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i want tattoo pics too---,, no not guy from fantasy island      

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