Yes, Brad, I know the timeline was for Jerusalem. I brought up the Israeli/Palestinan situation because that seems to be one of the major reasons that the U.S. is hated, at least according to the interviews of those in Arab nations that I've read or listened to, because we are allies of Israel. The finest minds in history, capable of understanding both sides and all the issues involved, haven't been able to resolve the conflict between them. I seriously doubt that I could add anything to help along those lines. No, I really don't think that our disecting it further would do any worthwhile good. But if you can figure out, in your studies, why the PLO is still allowed to call for the destruction of the State of Israel in its charter and the U.N. says nothing about it, I'd really appreciate any insight on that. And no, I can't blame the British for trying, they haven't been the only ones who have failed at trying to gain peace in that area. Who knows, things could have been even worse if they hadn't.
I don't believe that my saying that "sometimes war is the only way" is equivalent to someone saying that "Islam, in most instances, is against the killing of women and small children". The statement wasn't qualified with "during a war, sometimes innocents are killed, which is tragic", it just says "in most instances" (or mostly, I forget the exact wording). My questions still remain, what is that about? And what about men and no-so-young children? That statement gave me the chills because it wasn't further explained. I'd like to know when Islam is not against the killing of women and small children and why men and children in general are not included in that original statement.
No, I wouldn't argue that the killing of Afghanistan civilians is necessary. I'd say that the killing of any innocent civilian, anywhere, is tragic. As I said before, you won't find anyone here dancing in the streets upon hearing of innocents being killed accidently. People here are crying, myself included, at every report. We don't want innocents to die. I find it tragic that anyone has to die. Unfortuanely, there are those in this world whose sole intention is to kill as many innocent civilians as they possibly can, and they are still doing it to us here. Two more postal workers died suddenly today, most likely from anthrax. Two additional postal workers in D.C. have inhalation anthrax and are hospitalized, not to mention the one who died in Florida, and a second one hospitalized in Florida with inhalation anthrax and numerous others with skin anthrax, in four states, not to mention the 5000 + killed here last month, most whose remains are still buried beneath the still burning rubble. An act of war has been perpetrated upon us, not the other way around. We did not wreak this havoc upon them, they came here and did this to us. They are still here among us, poisoning us, planning future catastrophic events. How do you reason with that? I'd really like to know. I've heard bin Laden's demands. They are unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination. You can't reason with unreasonable people. We did try another option before we sent our military over there. We asked the Taliban numerous times over the course of three + weeks to hand over bin Laden, the members of Al Qaeda and the members of the other known terrorist networks. The answers were "No" (sprinkled with a few insincere attempts at stalling, calling for negotiation on the matter). We are doing what we have to do, we were left with no other choice. Our military response could have been avoided if the people we were dealing with were capable of being reasoned with. Yes, I believe sometimes war is the only way, unfortunately. This is one of those times.
Kamla ~ I'm on my way! I love cats! Do you have room for me, my husband, my kids, my grandkids, my sons-in-law, my sisters, my brother, assorted spouses and offspring? We're a really nice bunch!
Karilea ~ My thoughts, exactly. bin Laden and his crew are very good at brainwashing others to sacrifice their lives for the 'cause' and yet they hide in caves like the cowards that they are.
Interloper ~ You hit the nail on the head regarding intent. It is not our goal to kill innocents, unlike Al Qaeda, et al.
[This message has been edited by Denise (edited 10-22-2001).]