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The Ten Commandments in the Classroom

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Justbleu
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0 posted 10-15-2001 01:32 PM       View Profile for Justbleu   Email Justbleu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Justbleu's Home Page   View IP for Justbleu

Should they be in the classrooms or in the schools why or why not???  I just stepped in the teen chat and this is what I found.  I also mentioned a few things.  I don't usually get going like this but I did in there.  Oh well!!! What about you older folks...what do you think??????
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1 posted 10-15-2001 05:46 PM       View Profile for Dusk Treader   Email Dusk Treader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dusk Treader

I do not think the Ten Commmandments should be posted in schools. Christian morals are wonderful things and do merit study and most are worth following. But references to God and one particular faith just doesn't sit well with me.

The Ten Commandments should be included in World History (Or Ancient Civilizations) classes when the Hebrews are taught of course, as all other religions should be explained with respect and tolerance.

Just as the topic borders on this one, why do so many people feel that bringing God and Christianity into schools will save people and stop violence? Is the world really so bad because we're becoming "Godless" or is it because too many are intollerant and ignorant?

If it were my choice I think it would be beneficial for students to learn eastern meditation and philosophies. Taoism teaches one to look inward for answers and enlightenment, and that I think is an excellent idea. To make ourselves and lives balanced and support our selves instead of constantly looking outwards for support and guidance.

That being my opinion only and I would never participate upon forcing what scanty beliefs I have upon anyone. I believe what I believe and it's good enough for me. Like I said, I love Christain morals and Biblical stories, but as a faith it's not for me.

Do what you feel is necessary for you and mantain tolerant and do not strike out of ignorance (and if I sound ignorant of some fact(s), please tell me).


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I see it this way, if you don't like it, don't read it.........!!!  

Alicat
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Ten Commandments or not in a classroom would make not a bit of difference in how people behave while in class. Nor would any other philosophy, religion, or ideal. There have been times when I did question separation of church and state, ever since the Stokes Trial. Christianity was replaced by a new religion, one taught just as fervently: Evolutionism or Darwinism.

One thing I've noticed, since I graduated high school back in 89, is the marked lack of control educators and parents have in a child's schooling, and the kids know this. Kids know that they cannot be punished for their actions, and unless they break federal law, all criminal records will be sealed on their 18th birthday, which tells them loud and clear that they do not have to learn responsibility or accountability for their actions. If a parent disciplines, CPS is called in. If an educator disciplines, ACLU gets called in. Parents get fined and/or lose their kids, educators lose their jobs.

Bringing God back into the equation won't solve a thing. Shoot, I remember Christian groups when I was in high school...I've never met a more judgemental clique in all my years. However, if a religious group has a room of their own, like some science, chess, and language clubs, then they should be allowed to put whatever religious references they want.

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I think it is one indiviuals choice if the ten commandments should be allowed in schools/classrooms. If someone else doesn't like it than they don't have to, they can just ignore the ten commandments.

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...I'm sure we're in the Twilight Zone here...
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Actually, whether you're Christian or almost any other religion...the Ten Commandments are a pretty great way to live your life .....Unless of course lying, killing, not honoring your parents, stealing, bearing false witness, coveting your neighbor's wife are what your religious sect believes in? ....as far as worshipping idols and false Gods...to each their own....if it fills your needs...worship a fig tree or a little fat statue...but these Commandments for the most part, no matter what your faith is....are pretty good standards to live by...
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Personally, to me it does not matter. I went to catholic school all my life so I grew up with it, personally I don't see the big deal of having it in a public classroom.  If you don't want to see it don't read it. A lot of the kids that went to my school were not even christian they came from all walks of faith, if they diden't want to go to church or religion class they diden't go, simple as that. Also, I agree with Toerag, there still pretty good rules to follow.  
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In some schools, it's been banned to even pray! And I'm pretty sure there's a law that states that relgion isn't allowed to be taught in schools.

And to say everyone, or most people are Christian is to stereotype. Alot of people are "godless", some pagans, others jews...so to put up the Ten Commandments---would be ethically wrong. The instant they'd be put up...parents would complain---and then they'd be taken down!

Sure, maybe in STRICTLY religious schools---that'd be a good idea. But in public school...that might not be the best idea!

All I do, is think about you...

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