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Brad
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25 posted 09-08-2001 10:37 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Yeah, pretty tough not to take this into philosophy. I'm struck trying to think what a mature response to death is or would be?

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26 posted 09-13-2001 02:24 PM       View Profile for Apachecat906   Email Apachecat906   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Apachecat906

I just started reading this thread today, and in light of Tuesday I must comment. I'd be willing to bet that some feelings on this matter have changed drastically since last week.  We all are going to die.  Some of us will be remembered thoughtfully, some of us will be eulogized by strangers, some of our stories might end up somewhat sensationalized in the paper.  I hope that when I die, some people who are close to me will remember me well.  I will also hope that in contemplation of my death, someone else, friend or stranger, will feel closer to someone in their life.  All I am trying to say is that people react to death in different ways and should someone react inappropriately, well...that is irrelevant.    As far as the impersonal responses, who cares as long as someone had something positive to say.  I guess if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all.  Maybe some people who died in the World Trade Center or the Pentagon were jerks, but does it matter? I hope someone says something about each and every person that died.  I hope that they are remembered as heroes simply because they were a living breathing imperfect soul.  I suppose I'm not following the rational argument but I guess I'm emotional. Maybe I have been a jerk, but does that matter when I die? The truth is most of us are just trying to make it in life the best we know how.  The people who are left behind when someone dies are only trying to remember, to comprehend, to deal, and to sympathize the best we can. When I go, I would rather have someone make an attempt, botched or not, at honoring my life rather than simply saying nothing.   The large scale tragedy on Tuesday just makes it all too clear that All that matters is, people live, they die, and no matter if they were "normal", less than that, or more than that, they were heroes to someone.  


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27 posted 09-13-2001 05:35 PM       View Profile for Acies   Email Acies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Acies

I believe good things said about a person who has passed away, if not meant from the heart, is plainly all about respect.  Obituaries are meant to say good things and not bad.  I personally wouldn't want anyone saying all bad things about me and my life when I'm dead.  I don't call that an obituary, I call that disrespect and an Insult.

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28 posted 09-13-2001 09:08 PM       View Profile for Carolina   Email Carolina   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Carolina

Glad you brought this back up for me to read.  I was brought up to show honor and respect not only to the family but also to the person that just passed away.  We show it here by pulling over on the side of the road during the funeral procession, bowing our heads as the casket passes, etc.  I think everyone at one point in their life was a hero, to someone.  I also think that sometimes, we don't realize that someone's been a hero in our lives, until they leave us.  Today, I see nothing but heros.  Everywhere I look. I guess I see my world in a different light today, than I did Monday, as I'm sure many of you do, too.  {{{{{{HUGGGZZZZ}}}}}} to all of the heros in my life!  

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29 posted 09-16-2001 08:35 PM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

'As far as the impersonal responses, who cares as long as someone had something positive to say.'

I care.... all those people who died on Tuesday... they're going to be remembered as victims, first and foremost... victims who died because they worked as a such-and-such on the X floor of the WTC... see where I'm going with this? Their families will surely remember the quirks that made them unique, but the problem is that a stranger delivering a eulogy cannot deliver those quirks.... one eulogy can serve for however many people, just switch the numbers and titles around.....  

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30 posted 10-04-2001 12:09 AM       View Profile for Bec   Email Bec   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bec

I do agree with you, Allan, but I also agree with things everyone else has said. I agree with Local Rebel in saying that the living shouldn't be jealous of the dead, but in turn, why should it take the death of a person before we know why they were a special person? Shouldn't we know that before? And shouldn't we be able to tell that person ourselves why we think they're special, rather than have to wait and tell their headstone?

A very special person in my life passed away a few years ago. He was involved in charities and organisations, but he didn't have a park named after him. True heroes don't need recognition. They do their good deeds out of love and dedication, not for recognition.

I hope I haven't offended anyone, but that's what I think.

Bec  


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31 posted 10-04-2001 12:11 AM       View Profile for Bec   Email Bec   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bec

Oops! managed to post same thing twice!  

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