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I'm annoyed again. . .

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0 posted 07-24-2001 07:38 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Yes, I know. . .it's been a while. . . and believe me, it's been pretty good. . . but. . . today. . . I don't know, I guess I'm just fed up with some things. . .

What things??  I wish that I could really tell you. . . I just feel like things are going on that I have no control over. . . and yes, I know that I can't control them. . . but that doesn't mean that I don't like it. . .

I hate that people think that they know me better than I know myself. . . thay they believe things about me that are told to them rather than asking me about them. . . I believe that they are hearing things from people who don't know the first thing about me or who I am or what I do or what my life is like right now. . .

Of course, I could be paranoid about the whole thing. . . it's entirely possible. . . but you know. . . why would I feel it???  Don't any of you believe in intuition??  Don't you feel that when people are speaking ill of you that you know it somehow deep in your soul???  Or, do you just shrug it off to that "paranoia" that we're all expected to believe???  The idea that, "Oh, come on Sven, no one's talking about you. . . that's crazy!!!"  

Well. . .is it???  And, yes. . . I know that I can't stop people from talking about me or making assumptions about me based on what they hear, see, read or whatever. . . but I don't have to like it. . . and most of the time, I just ignore it. . . becuase I really don't have time for the sort of infantile behavior that most people seem to think is fine for them but not for others. . . but today, it's annoying me. . .and becuase it's annoying me, I'm ranting about it. . .

Aren't you lucky???  You get to see the other side of me. . .the side that gets this way from time to time. . . no, I'm not always the fun, Romantic guy that you see. . . I can be a real pain in the rear end sometimes. . .(just ask my friends!!!  LOL). . . but, they know enough by now to just let me go and get it out. . . and then, when I'm done, I'll be better again. . . they know this. . . because they've seen it before. . . but you probably haven't. . .and beacuse you probably haven't, it's a little surprising to you. . .but, hey. . . we're all this way aren't we to a degree??  

We're not all the "sane, rational" people that we'd like others to think that we are are we??  No. . . sometimes, we just have to let it go. . . to let it out. . .to rant and rave and just let all of the emotions out before they build up too much and wind up causing us to be on top of a building somewhere with pieces of foil on our heads. . . it's a good thing. . . helps keep us in check, you know??

So. . . am I being paranoid???  Am I being crazy????  Quite possibly. . .

BUT!!!  What if I'm not. . . and. . .if you're one of those people, may I politely say. . .


thank you for your time. . . we now return you back to your regular Sven. . .   


To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world.

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1 posted 07-24-2001 09:40 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

This is life.

If you post in a public forum, make friends and enemies, someone is bound to talk about you. It's a part of being human.

How you handle it shows your real character.

I say let 'em talk! I wish you'd all talk about me - I feel left out!
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2 posted 07-24-2001 09:46 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Yep, it can be mighty irritating, can't it? I believe in intuition also, and I also tend to dismiss it as paranoia. But I guess we all get talked about by somebody, I mean what are the odds that we don't know at least one person that just loves to trash us? In the long run, they are the ones to suffer the most. Can you imagine being so insecure or bitter or whatever, that you would actually enjoy ruining someone's reputation or relationships. Pretty sad when you think of it. But yes, it does feel good to let off steam about it from time to to everyone who has ever talked trash about me or done me dirty....

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3 posted 07-24-2001 10:51 PM       View Profile for Dark Enchantress   Email Dark Enchantress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Dark Enchantress's Home Page   View IP for Dark Enchantress

I've just never cared. I used to a long time ago, but I don't now. It's always bound to happen so I don't see the point of letting it get to me. I know what's true and what's not. I know who's opinion I trust and who's I don't. Isn't that all that really matters? At school most people before they even know me think I'm a ***** and that I'm a slut. It may or may not be true, but that doesn't mean that I have to care. Don't let it get to you too much, Sven. Laugh it know? Laugh at them for the stupid things they do. I wish people would talk about me more. I think it's hilarious. But anywho... I know what you mean. People are people though. What can else can you do?  

It's good that you let that all out. I'm glad you did.

Be kind, be true, be bold, be you.

Freedom comes when you learn to live unafraid.

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4 posted 07-24-2001 11:21 PM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

*jenn comes along on her horse, scoops up the SVEN PEN IN DISTRESS and rides away into the wild blue Passions horizon*  

Yanno I really know what you're getting at here...and can be a pain in the rear, but can't we all?   Still it gives no one the right to discuss you behind your back to other people. It makes me sick too!   *sigh* Well, Beautiful Heart, yanno I'm always behind ya!  

ohh..and c'mere..did ya hear that thing about Sharon? Shhh!! very hush hush..Everyone knows, but its not out in the open yet! Ohh...whats that? SHE'S REALLY A VERY SWEET PERSON! I know..yeah..thats why this is so strange to hear..c'mere..I'll tell ya!  
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5 posted 07-24-2001 11:47 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Bad publicity? I too have been annoyed at the same problem Sven. But at the same time, I also realize that my forum persona feeds the fire. So...I will continue to play. And if someone, somewhere actually worries about what it is I do? Well then, at least I have provided some small distraction from the tedium of their life. Don't sweat the small stuff, lovie.
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6 posted 07-25-2001 12:42 AM       View Profile for JLR   Email JLR   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JLR

Sven----Thank you for this post because I am feeling something quite similar.  Though in my case, this person has indirectly told me that they were trashing me to others here.  I didn't even respond to a poem, let alone post one for a couple days because I had this image of all the pipsters whispering...'well, you've heard about her, haven't you?'  Personally, I need to develop a thicker skin because I let things like this really get to me.  And yes, I defintely believe in intuition...example being I couldn't seem to pull myself away from the reading of poetry tonight, yet something kept urging me towards this forum.  And now I know why!  Thank you a million times.  And though no ones told me anything about you...I already knew you weren't perfect.  HAHA!  Still love ya!!!!
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7 posted 07-25-2001 12:58 AM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Sharon said what I was going to say except I was scrambling around looking for the exact quote from Oscar Wilde.

Curious if you know the quote or was it simply a case of great minds thinking alike?    

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8 posted 07-25-2001 01:36 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Oscar Wilde:

"The reason we are so pleased to find other people's secrets is that it distracts public attention from our own."
Is this the quote you meant Brad?

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9 posted 07-25-2001 02:18 AM       View Profile for Auguste   Email Auguste   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Auguste's Home Page   View IP for Auguste


So what if people talk about us behind our backs?  Does it really matter?  Let them talk. WE know who we are.  Our friends know who we are.  If bored people with tired little lives have nothing better to do, then let them do it.  Your friends stand beside you no matter what your mood.   Be well, sir, and peace to you, my friend.


Michael Auguste~
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10 posted 07-25-2001 11:40 AM       View Profile for Interloper   Email Interloper   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Interloper

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about you

My friend, I have been "there" with others here although I have never "seen" what has been said.  I don't even know where they might be saying "it."

I do know I was called down by the Poetry Police for steamy verse and "inappropriate" images.  It was interesting to me that I was accused of certain things that truly offended me.  It is even more interesting that the accuser refuses to post on my work ... prolly doesn't even bother to read it ... but I guess this person does or how would that person have determined my work was too "steamy?"

Anyway, I'm on yore side ole buddy.  You tell 'em they can't whip the dual voices of the North and the South.  Shux, we got the whole country covered
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11 posted 07-25-2001 12:24 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Thanks everyone. . . you know, I ususally do let these things go. . . but yesterday, I guess I was just in a mood you know??

I find it kind of flattering that my life is so interesting that other people seem to take great delight in telling others about it. . . LOL. . . and to think that I thought that my life was pretty boring!!!  

Well, guess what folks. . . my life is pretty boring. . . I don't have people lined up outside my door, and no one knows that better than I do. . .and if they do, I'd like them to come and tell me, because maybe they've seen something that I haven't!!!!  LOL

Michael, WE don't know who WE are. . . I know who I am, and you know who you are. . . and after that. . . it's all a matter of what you know. . .

deVine and Brad, I knew that the two of you would agree quite readily on this subject. . . and I just had a feeling that Brad would quote Oscar Wilde on this one. . .no one has said it better. . .

Denise and JLR, thanks for joining me in my little vent session here. . . feel better don't you??  LOL  I guess that we can take comfort in knowing that our lives are so much more interesting than even we ever thought that they were!!!  

serenity, I know. . . I'm like you in a way. . . who I am here feeds the things that are said about me. . . and. . . oh well. . .  . . . what's the song??  I've gotta be meeeeee!!!   ROFL

Interloper, that we do my friend. . . and you know that you shore nuff steam up the whole place wit your stuff!!!  

Temptress, Temptress, Temptress. . . *sigh*. . .  . . . I think that you might need a bigger horse!!  LOL

And thank you so much my friend, for saying that I was a pain!!  Sheesh. . . I'm really not that bad. . . and yes, I have heard that about deVine. . . but, I wouldn't let it get out. . . she does have a reputation to live down to!!!  LOL  


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12 posted 07-25-2001 02:16 PM       View Profile for Cerenity   Email Cerenity   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cerenity

Hi Sven,

I know how you feel, cause in my personal life my friends and family can be brutal! As far as Passions I have not ever run into anything like you describ, maybe because even though I know some people by thier work and a small few alittle more just because they have helped me with something that has to with my work, sometimes I feel left out of the loop because I can't seem to make friendships any farther than this and then other times when I see post like this then I think maybe I am fortunate, at any rate I care for my fellow poet and try to treat all with respect and John you are a very loving and gental man, and it's SO "OK" to rant!!! and I hope that the ones that are doing this do GET A LIFE all they really do is make them selves look BAD by the talk! Please be well and I'll be talking at you soon.

Love, Cerenity

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We have to be reminded that He exist!"

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13 posted 07-25-2001 04:06 PM       View Profile for inot2B   Email inot2B   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for inot2B

Real friends will come up and ask you if so and so is true. They won't believe what others say about you. Just think if they are talking about you this time maybe they're giving one of your friends a break. It is a waste of your time worrying about it. Just keep writing your poetry and living your life the way you want.
I promise if I ever hear something about you I'll ask you if it's true. Heck, I wouldn't care if it is true are not, I still consider you a great POET.
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14 posted 07-26-2001 08:31 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

you know what people say about me?


Can't even get them interested....
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15 posted 07-27-2001 12:25 PM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

I'm kinda wondering if the Foil thingy on the head helps with the paranoia... lol

I believe if you are truelly a good and honest person people will see that in you. Your friends will always know the truth, i've heard some bad rumors about me... there all true..  

When things get tough and I don't want to listen to their thoughts anymore I do what you do and put on my foil helmet.  


[This message has been edited by Parker (edited 07-27-2001).]

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16 posted 07-31-2001 02:25 PM       View Profile for Irie   Email Irie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irie

Wow Sven, let me just say that I know exactly where you are coming from.
I have found that some people have nothing better to do with their lives than to gossip, spread rumors and even go as far a making things up.
Why do they do this? Well, I have come up with only two answers.
One, they are so miserable them selves that they feel they must make other people miserable to make them selves look and feel better.
Two, They thrive on turmoil. They enjoy other people's pain.
End result, the same. It makes them feel better in some sick way.

I too have been the butt end of sick, mean people. And I too usually ignore it all. Only this was a supposed GOOD friend of ours. He spread nasty, malicious rumors about me all around my husband's work place.
Result? Hell at home! Makes my husband feel like an ass at work.
When it effects me or my family personally, causes turmoil at home and even effects my child, I'm hell bent on getting to the source and nailing their sorry butts to the wall.
I found the source, but refused the nail their butt to the wall. Why? Because I felt that if I let him know how badly he disrupted our lives, he wins. Not to mention, I am a FIRM believer of "What comes around goes around"
Little did husband know it was his so called almost beast friend who was doing this.
Needless to day, we don't spend time with this so-called friend any longer and he can't figure out why, and he is greatly disturbed about it. In time, he'll figure it out, and I might even tell him.
And guess what, as I type this, he is getting his turn. His life has now been turned upside down as a direct result of himself!

So, I do understand why this kind of activity is disturbing! I figure these people who lack personality and heart, will in the end, get their turn!
I hope it works out for you.  

I've always said, "Mean people SUCK!"  


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left by those who got there first"

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17 posted 08-01-2001 03:47 PM       View Profile for White Wolf   Email White Wolf   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for White Wolf

I once read a book not too long ago that stated something interesting on this subject.  It said that rumors that hold no truth go in on ear maybe bounce around for a short time and then it is out the other ear.  It goes along with the concept that the truth will make itself known.  I once heard a rumor or two about this girl.  Basicly to the fact that she was a slut.  After a day or two I completely forgot about the rumor.  A few years later I actually dated this girl and she told me that she was a virgin and she was and no it wasn't me that changed that.  When she told me this the rumor popped up in my head as people really know very little about other people let alone themselves.  That is just one example of this theory in pactice.  I once overheard a couple of rumors about myself.  One was that I was an unfeeling son of a......  The other was that I am crazy.  Now I see the truth in one I did portray to be unfeeling and I actually confess to being the other.  I am crazy but not stupid.     Don't ask me what my point is cause I have lost it.  Oh well, es la vida.

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