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Skyfyre
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0 posted 07-02-2001 10:03 PM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

FYI to those who might not know:  

TITLES OR, HEAVEN FORBID, ENTIRE POSTS TYPED IN ALL CAPS ARE EXTREMELY ANNOYING.  

It will not get you more replies -- nor more attention that you will likely ever know about.  People will just read you shouting at them, roll their eyes, and scroll to the next post that didn't ask for their attention quite so desperately ...

I know this is an old issue, but we get so many newbies every day I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and offer a heads-up.


Linda

[This message has been edited by Skyfyre (edited 07-02-2001).]

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1 posted 07-02-2001 10:24 PM       View Profile for Acies   Email Acies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Acies

I'm not sure if I've done it  

hi Sweets, Lizzy, Kris, Ina, Erin, Erica, Minna, Kit, Kamie, Javi, Jenn, Sharon, Nan, Cawlee, Cherish, Ashley, Sara, Justine, Leah, Jess, Kimmie, Mare

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2 posted 07-02-2001 10:56 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

This is so old Linda...sheesh...can't you realise that PEOPLE NEVER LEARN?????

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT! SHEESH...

heh

You know, of course, that I agree...desperately...

I wanted a complaint, I said to myself - I hope someone is moaning in the Alley...I was getting bored, and with nothing to complain about myself   - thanks hon!

K


I am a refugee of logic...insisting
on unlikely land with every step.

[This message has been edited by Severn (edited 07-02-2001).]

Skyfyre
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3 posted 07-03-2001 12:49 AM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

acire, past transgressions, if any, are hereby forgiven.  

Future violations, however, are punishable by death or a really heinous wedgie -- whichever happens to suit my mood at the moment.  

Kamla, you are right, of course ... but I ENJOY beating my head against brick walls -- the people living under my bed tell me it's good for me.  
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4 posted 07-03-2001 01:17 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Heh...it could be worse...it could be some clueless teenager attempting to proclaim his conformist individuality by typing in ALL CAPZ...note the blatant mispelling? Bleah...only thing worse than a title in all caps is a title in all caps with letter exchanges, like Z for S. Makes me wonder how they spell Mississippi...
Michael
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5 posted 07-03-2001 01:21 AM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

PLEASE READ AND REPLY!!!!


I find the above, when posted with or for a title, equally annoying.  Usually because when I do dare to open one of these posts, I am immediately disappointed by the author's lack of concern over the quality of his work.  

So many people on these forums spend so much time YELLING AT US to read their posts, and yet can't take the 30 seconds required for a spell- or grammar-check.  

I hear you, and totally agree with you, Linda.  I just had to add my two cents as usual.    

Michael

[This message has been edited by Michael (edited 07-03-2001).]

Irish Rose
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6 posted 07-03-2001 07:32 AM       View Profile for Irish Rose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irish Rose

much needed, and yes, it does turn me off.

Sunshine
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7 posted 07-03-2001 09:06 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Upping the ante to four cents...sometimes my titles are all in lowercase, to denote "whispering"....

if someone "hears" it, then they may read...

you do get people to come a little closer to you when you whisper....

also, one of my gripes is: better titles!  Draw the reader in with a "what could this mean?" title....they need as much work as the poetry/prose!  Unless it's a repost, or a dedication, make the title work....

and that's my four cents!
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8 posted 07-03-2001 09:58 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I agree, I agree!!! All caps in titles screams at me to stay away. I also hate long titles ... they seem longer than the poem! And ellipses...leave them out of the title please, it screws things up. And don't get cute ThIs IsNoT ThE WaY tO gEt me to read something - I'd need an aspirin first! Don't beg! Don't tell me this is the best you've written (I'll be the judge of that).

DO: dedicate if you like, write a poem as a reply to someone - that's cool; do have interesting titles (draw me in!!) and please do have fun. That's what it's all about!!! That and the hokey pokey......
Marge Tindal
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9 posted 07-03-2001 01:19 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

As inconceivable as it might sound -
there are 'other' poetry sites that REQUIRE
the poets to place their title in all CAPS.

I don't like them either,but when I notice the poet not getting as many responses as they could, and I feel it might be because of the title being in all caps, I drop them an e-mail and let them know that I think that's why they aren't getting read.

Doesn't take but a polite minute and the responses have been overwhelmingly thankful.
New poets don't come here 'knowing all' ...
we can help them quickly and quietly without ignoring their work.

Me ? I'd like to see (parenthesis) NOT allowed in titles ...
as those little critters keep me from replying to the post without being disconnected.

My $1.98 special~
~*Marge*~

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10 posted 07-03-2001 03:06 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Marge...I've been leaving my parens out, just for you....

but I do have a hard time with these little ellipses....

seems to be signatory on my part....

I just won't stretch them out..................................................................................... anymore....

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11 posted 07-03-2001 04:16 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Just thank God that there's no way a person can record their voice and attach it to their poem screaming READ ME READ ME
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12 posted 07-03-2001 04:34 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

My personal source of amusement are poems that come with warnings. And, Kari...I, too...am addicted to ellipses...and Marge, I will start leaving out the parenthesis (I usually only do that to signify inspiration credit or a duet) oh...DRAT....(THERE I GO AGAIN....ARGGHHH...shhh....arg.
Romy
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13 posted 07-03-2001 10:41 PM       View Profile for Romy   Email Romy   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Romy

Oh...that's what these are called...
Janet Marie
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14 posted 07-04-2001 12:58 PM       View Profile for Janet Marie   Email Janet Marie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Janet Marie

.......ellipses???....what are ellipses???
What .... do .... you ... mean ... they ... are ... addicting ...
why ... thats ... all ....just ... in ... your ... minds....
(and my emails)      oh and in a FEW of my poems ROFLMAO

OH HUSH Serenity!!!  

AND BESIDES they (...) are not ellipses ...
they are SPRINKLES!!!!!
ask Marge  

I call them Rainbow Confetti  

later-ellipses-gators

PEACE & LOVE TO POETRY LAND

(just making sure you heard me)  


We're all feeding our lonely like it might go away,
Like the doors of heaven will swing wide open if we just find the right words to say.
~E. McCain

[This message has been edited by Janet Marie (edited 07-04-2001).]

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15 posted 07-04-2001 04:56 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Just for Janet Marie~

........
.....Ellipsing moon....
.....of a passionate fire....
..sprinkle of my heart desire..
....lay upon the page so sweet....
....sweeping Janet off her feet....
....for within a heart is found....
...sprinkles of heart surround...
...tiniest increments of love...
...sending glow of above...
...ellipsing moon...
........

Love ya'
~*Marge*~



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16 posted 07-04-2001 10:47 PM       View Profile for Dusk Treader   Email Dusk Treader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dusk Treader

If u post in all capz again i will phreak u up!!1!1!!

Capitalize your "I"s and take the time to write out three letter words like "you" and "are." Those are my pet peeves.

And all caps just screams, "Don't read me!"

Plz read my work though, im good!  

"They that start by burning books will end by burning men." -- Heinrich Heine

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17 posted 07-05-2001 12:03 AM       View Profile for Janet Marie   Email Janet Marie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Janet Marie

MARGIE GAVE ME A SPRINKLES MOON!!!
HOW WAY COOL!!!
THANK YOU MY LUNA LADY ...
I CANT THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO END THIS DAY.
YOURE SO COOL  
     
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I rarely do this, but......................................................

I can certainly understand the ALL CAPS thing as being annoying (usually when it accompanies the "READ ME" plea), but what is so bad about (parenthesis) when used in the way to subtitle a poem. Can you really subtitle a poem? I don't know. Do I care? NOPE!   Do I subtitle my poems? YEP! I use (parenthesis) a lot lately in my titles, and although I don't feel my work is the most valuable out there, its not my loss but the reader's loss if they choose not to read it over something so scantily important. Leave the ulcers to those who would worry over it if ya ask me.   Oh well!   Couldn't read my poem because of parenthesis? geesh.. I'll ask again (as I did in another thread), are we nitpicking or reading and writing poetry here?
rascalx
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19 posted 07-05-2001 02:44 AM       View Profile for rascalx   Email rascalx   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit rascalx's Home Page   View IP for rascalx

Essentially I agree with Jenn but I will also add a thought of my own. I think it is equally trite to argue over the usage of capitals. While I understand that in the chatting realm, capitals is synonymous with shouting, I don't think that necessarily applies in the poetry realm... we, as poets, should be allowed to express ourselves in whatever fashion we choose. It is up to the reader to draw their own conclusions on what we are saying with our usage of parenthesis, elipses or capitals. Example - e.e. cummings is famous for his warped usages of capitalization, punctuation and grammar.
        - getting off his stump now
                         Jeff
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20 posted 07-05-2001 02:50 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Temptress~
Well .. I know it's late dear ...
You said-
quote:
I use (parenthesis) a lot lately in my titles, and although I don't feel my work is the most valuable out there, its not my loss but the reader's loss if they choose not to read it over something so scantily important.

READ my reply AGAIN please.
I said-
quote:
Me ? I'd like to see (parenthesis)
NOT allowed in titles ...
as those little critters keep me from replying to the post without being disconnected.
Do I CARE ... darned tootin' I do !
Have a nice night.
Me? I'm taking my Mylanta and going to bed !
~*Marge*~


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21 posted 07-05-2001 02:57 AM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

Marge,
I'm curious as to how we can disconnect ourselves and still read something as effectively? Why disconnect ourselves from what we're reading? I don't get that part? Maybe I don't understand? How can we get what we seek out of it if we aren't really totally connected to what we're doing. Geesh..it is late. LOL! Maybe I'll come back tomorrow when I can pose my question.
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22 posted 07-05-2001 03:38 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Temptress~
Play close attention here, hon.
This is not this hard -

When  there  are  parenthesis or brackets in  the TITLE  of  the  poem  
I  get  d-i-s-c-o-n-n-e-c-t-e-d  from  my  server when  I  try  to  reply  to  the  poem  !

Now -
You said -
quote:
Maybe I don't understand? How can we get what we seek out of it if we aren't really totally connected to what we're doing.
And  now  I  am  ROFL -
the  name  my  service  provider  IS  are you ready for this ?
TOTALLY  CONNECTED !

Now  at  least  I  can  go  to  sleep  LAUGHING !
Night !
~*MARGE*~

~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
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23 posted 07-05-2001 04:35 AM       View Profile for vlraynes   Email vlraynes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit vlraynes's Home Page   View IP for vlraynes


Ok...after reading the responses to this
post, I felt the need to add my 49 cents.

First of all, I have to say,
Marge...YOU GO GIRL!!      You crack me up!  
I agree with your solution whole-heartedly!
If even a fraction of the time and effort
that is put into one of these threads was
used to reach out to our fellow poets,
whether newcomers or established members,
just think how much less there would be to
complain about in the first place.    

To those of you who would prefer to complain, let
me just ask you these simple questions.
Why did you come to Passions in the first
place?  What was it that brought you here?
Did you come here so you could pick apart
the posting styles of other poets?
Did you come here to judge others on there
personal preferences concerning the use of
capital letters, elipses, or anything else
they may choose to use in the posting of
their poetry?  
Or...did you, perhaps, come to Passions
to meet other poets, read there work, share yours with them, and generally to enjoy the gift of poetry?

I, for one, am here because I love poetry,
and in the time I've been here I've come
to love my fellow poets.    
So, on that note, I'm heading off to enjoy
some poetry...anyone care to join me?  

hugs,
~vicky

btw...Janet Marie...I...love...your...sprinkles...


"...until you have read the verse on his
heart, you have not truely met the poet."
-vlraynes




[This message has been edited by vlraynes (edited 07-05-2001).]

serenity blaze
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24 posted 07-05-2001 03:59 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

sigh...would everybody get a grip, PUHLEASE??? geez, I just think poetry that comes with warnings is FUNNY...like the author is trying to avoid a lawsuit or something...I still read them, in fact there's one person who hates my guts and I still read her and if I like it, I reply---it drives her nuts too!  
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