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serenity blaze
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0 posted 2001-06-29 09:22 PM


Not what you were thinking, but maybe it is...I am still furious at the healthcare situation in this country, (United States)---it's appalling. To watch my friends and loved ones---who bought into this promised system-- being cast aside. My father? A veteran, a man with who worked three jobs to support his family--had to wait in the emergency room, sitting in a corner, in a wheelchair, for 11 1/2 hours for a bed...Only to receive cursory treatment and then released because he did not have the coverage? He bought his insurance, he paid his dues and now...I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

If anyone out there can explain it to me? I sure wish you would. I am disgusted to the point of tears...

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1 posted 2001-06-29 09:50 PM


I can only offer you two words..................I'm sorry   I'm hurting with you
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2 posted 2001-06-30 01:23 AM


Why? Becuase healthcare is a system. Systems have bugs. Too bad those bugs run rampant and without regard to humanity, but that's what technology brings us.

Not to sound impersonal- I am very much enraged by this subject, which is why I thought best to keep my comment brief. An estimated 80,000-140,000 (or some such statistic, I think I'm being pretty accurate) people die each year to medical error. Enough said.

everything's fine.

serenity blaze
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3 posted 2001-06-30 03:55 AM


hush? DON'T HUSH...and if anyone can direct me? I would sure love to know what alternatives I have, as a registered voter, to bring this to the attention of the fully insured Washingtonians. As if my father's nightmare is not enough...my friend is also now in the hospital---she has lupus..but? they aren't quite sure if she had a lupus "siege" or a heart attack...it took HER thirteen hours to get a bed from the emergency room.If there was something to kick? I would...Oh. Yeah. The middle toe on my right foot--not broken..but fractured. so? Don't kick walls. PUNCH THEM--with the ball of your fist...less risk of injury that way. And no...this time? not even trying to be funny... I AM SO EXPLETIVE ANGRY.   (and it so amazes me, what some people choose to find offensive)

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Kit McCallum
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4 posted 2001-06-30 09:38 AM


I know what you mean Serenity. From a Canadian vantage, I used to be so proud of our system, and still am in many ways ... but it too has taken a nose dive over the last several years from a "service" standpoint.  

Although we don't have the insurance worries that you do in the U.S., the patient care has suffered tremendously with drastic cuts. They've closed so many beds and let go of so many nurses, that the staff left are run ragged. They do the best they can, and I applaud so many of them, but the government just keeps cutting back. Sooner or later, we all suffer for that.

I'd write a letter to your government representative in your area, and cc the hospital administration. Do it when you're not angry, keep it factual and ask them to respond to your issues. They may not be able to do much of anything at this point, but it will make you feel better knowing you've been heard.

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5 posted 2001-06-30 06:15 PM


You know, I was talking with someone the other day about how I thought healthcare for the elderly should be free.  I know that it would get expensive, but at least our money would be going toward something worthwhile. Geesh..I was also complaining about how I don't the Desert Storm veterans are getting what they deserve in light of the sickness they discovered, but then again (being sarcastic)the veterans from wars fought YEARS ago still aren't getting the proper treatment, so why the hell would anyone think of doing things right now? Geesh.. I worked in a nursing home for a little while before we moved here to Gulfport, and I hated to see those people and their families worry over bills.   So, I need to step down off the box now because I'm getting a little upset myself.  
serenity blaze
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6 posted 2001-07-01 01:23 AM


I want to thank everybody, but Kit? Great advice...whew...exhale...do it when you're not angry. Pray for me that day will come soon. Thanks all, for tolerating my verbal kick at the walls.
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7 posted 2001-07-01 07:03 AM


a suggestion I just thought of- if you have any friends who are nurses or healthcare professionals, maybe they can help, even just in an individual case to get you father or friend better care- my mom is an RN, as well as a very assertive woman- she knows how things work and how to talk to the staff, and it is immensely helpful in getting people proper care.

A note about the lupus- my mom has it, and it may not be the dr.'s fault for the questionable diagnosis- lupus is a really weird disease, and it's really hard to tell exactly what it does to each individual person, and what is and isn't related to it.

everything's fine.

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8 posted 2001-07-05 07:30 PM


Ya know health care in the UK isn't much better, I think the world needs sorting out.

Don't ever give in, if you do you've lost everything you've ever had and everything you hope to gain, but if you carry on your already winning.


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9 posted 2001-07-05 07:31 PM


and oh yeah are you sure that was 2 words

Don't ever give in, if you do you've lost everything you've ever had and everything you hope to gain, but if you carry on your already winning.


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