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Kit McCallum
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0 posted 06-06-2001 07:52 PM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

Copyright Infringement again. Sorry to keep posting here in the Alley on this, but when I see several scooped from the main site, since I don't know people's real names from pen names, I thought I would post it here.  This little lady has grabbed 3 of my poems, and Nan's on her list too.

Ron, how would you like me or others to handle this? I don't want to burden you with the task again, however there are many from the main site and I'd hate to see those remain if I deal with this young lady individually.

Let me know how you'd like me to tackle this particular situation and how you'd like me to handle it if/when I come across it in the future.  The last time, did you quote the poems and each link to the culprit, or just referenced it in general?  Maybe you could advise how best to handle it if anyone comes across mass copyright issues affecting some of our members like this one and the other one.  Would you like me to handle my own, then just e-mail you the other links, or keep notifying through the Alley in case other's need to verify for any of their work.  It takes quite a while to pull these links together like I've done below, LOL, but when I find one of mine, I assume there will be others and that's what happened again below.

Although Sarah does not place an author's name on the poem page, on her primary poem page below, she claims "This is a collection of my poems that I have written over the past few months, most of them are about people that are close to my heart or have influenced me in my life." http://sfedragon.com/my_poems.htm


My poem/post: http://netpoets.com/poems/life/0406017.htm
Your Post:   http://sfedragon.com/poems/drifting.htm

My poem:  http://netpoets.com/poems/family/0406018.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/my_treasure.html

My poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/friends/0406008.htm
Your post: http://sfedragon.com/poems/what_is_a_friend.html

Nancy Ness' poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/lovers/0041016.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/friends_lovers.html

Lisa Boyd's poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/teenlove/0414001.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/love_is.html

MJ Smith's poem:  http://netpoets.com/poems/friends/1438001.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/my%20gift%20to%20you.html

Sage Mithrell's poem:  http://netpoets.com/poems/depress/0026003.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/sadness.htm

Becky's poem:  http://netpoets.com/poems/friends/1506001.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/listen.htm

Kathleen Sheppard's poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/lovers/1290001.htm
Your post:  http://sfedragon.com/poems/can_we.html

Ratina Yazzie's poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/lovers/0851001.htm
Your Post: http://sfedragon.com/poems/can_i_love_you.html

Becki William's poem: http://netpoets.com/poems/friends/0673002.htm
Your post: http://sfedragon.com/poems/if_ever_you_need_me.htm

Thanks Ron ... sorry to be such a pain ...
Sunshine
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1 posted 06-06-2001 09:30 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

friendly "bump"...

geez Kit....I wish you could get back to writing FANTASTIC POETRY and not having to be out on the watch for all of this....

but on the other hand?  Don't we all just hug for your efforts...[um Ron...where's the little icon for hugs?]
Nan
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2 posted 06-06-2001 10:20 PM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

I definitely WANT to build the Hall of Shame.. It's at the top of my list...
Dopey Dope
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3 posted 06-09-2001 03:48 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

People who steal poems should be put on the shame list and like.....perish?
Michael
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4 posted 06-09-2001 05:35 PM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

I can't help but wonder of the mentality of these people.  What do they do, read a poem and say to themselves, "Wow - I wrote that!!!"  
Michael
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5 posted 06-09-2001 11:08 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Michael if that's all it takes, then consider ALL your poetry as written by me.. Boy I'm good!!! (just kidding!)
Kit McCallum
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6 posted 06-10-2001 08:21 AM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

LOL ... I think that is all it takes for these odd ones. In the overall scheme of things, it really is such a tiny percentage of people who have done this, and I've had excellent results with those I contacted.  

Ali's search engine software suggestion "Copernic 2001" works beautifully to keep track of this type of thing on a regular basis, be it a key phrase from poems posted on the main site or others posted on a personal web page (some issues I encountered had nothing to do with the main site).  Regardless, Copernic 2001 has taken the grump out of this task, and makes it easy to stay on top of it, I'd recommend it to anyone regardless of where their work is published, even hard copy publication.
Thanks again Ali ... I'm not too concerned with this anymore, since this makes it so easy to nip it in the bud. Quick and painless, LOL ...
Michael
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7 posted 06-10-2001 04:24 PM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

Uh, any suggestions for pages that are done in a foreign language?  
http://www.helmer-digte.subnet.dk/

This particular page is using one of my poems and I haven't a clue how to reach them.  It's kinda hard to figure out if there's an administrator link here...LOL
Michael
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8 posted 06-10-2001 05:05 PM       View Profile for Munda   Email Munda   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Munda's Home Page   View IP for Munda

Michael, this is a Danish page and as far as I can figure it out this page is part of: http://www.subnet.dk/ and at the bottom of the page it has a link: Kontakt. I'd try that if I were you. Good luck. Had the same thing with a Scandinavian site myself, but never received a reply from them.
Kit McCallum
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9 posted 06-12-2001 10:29 PM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

After talking to Ron, I e-mailed this person to finalize the issue and it has been resolved.
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