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Michael
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California 
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I just received a response to one of my poems featured on the main Passions site, "Void." It read as follows: "Dude you didn't write this poem." Naturally, the fact that I wrote the poem is not in question (I was there) ... but for some reason I find myself thoroughly annoyed. What I want to know is if anyone ELSE heard from this 'person' regarding their own work, or if I was singled out for some bizarre reason ... Michael |
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Elizabeth Cor Senior Member
since 2000-10-13
Posts 879Over the river and through the woods |
 Still enoying your job, btw? The commute must be heaven by comparison…  I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather... |
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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
A few weeks ago, Ron received an email from a 'lady' who said some of her poems were being plagarized!!! One of them was a poem Ron wrote!! Imagine that! I would ignore it Michael....and get your work copyrighted!!! |
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Nan
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
Ain' life grand?... Mike if you need a reference, just send 'em my way...  |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
And now I suppose you didn't voice this complaint either, eh, dude?  (WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MICHAEL?)Sorry, Mike, just amusing myself again...I especially liked the "dude" part...ROFL...oh my...want me to beat 'em up for you? My hormones are kicking in...I think I could take him! |
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Irish Rose Member Patricius
since 2000-04-06
Posts 10263 |
After being addressed as "dude" the rest would have been meaningless, as it obviously is!!!!! Kathleen Blake |
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Jesse Jaymz Senior Member
since 2000-01-24
Posts 708Youngstown, ohio |
i wrote a cute little poem for my friend once. i posted it and copywrited it. then a few months down the road i sent it to a friend and she said that she seen it as an e-mail forward. so i sent her the page that i wrote it on and she was like wow i guess you did write it. *sighs* i hate when people do that. i know how you feel my friend. All I feel is hurt and sorrow, praying it'll all be gone by tomorrow but as tomorrow rolls around, another tear hits the ground. |
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Temptress
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-06-15
Posts 7136Mobile, AL |
Hmm.. Not yet, but I haven't checked my yahoo account in a few days either. *grins* Aside from that..AREN'T THE POSITIVE ONES JUST WUNNERFUL? They put a smile on my face. ROTFL! I think some guy sent his address along with his e-mail once. Cracked me up! |
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dragonpoe Senior Member
since 2000-11-12
Posts 608Palm Bay, Florida |
I haven't received anything like this. But I have to agree with the idea that maybe this critic was just in awe, and couldn't come to believe you wrote it. Yes, it's annoying, but you could also take it as a great compliment. With the word, I am mighty, with the pen I am free.. |
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Honeybee Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-26
Posts 5372Ontario, CANADA |
I can understand why you would be so annoyed, it's insulting when a person who has no class or brains to appreciate a truly gifted poet like yourself. Michael, you're a fine poet and should just disregard what that person has said, that person is obviously just jealous of your talent or is just someone who is fooling around and picked on you for no apparent reason. The fatc that he/she wrote "dude" shows that he/she has no proof of anything Take care! Melissa~ |
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doreen peri Member Elite
since 1999-05-25
Posts 3812Virginia |
well, it could have been a compliment, y'know? it's all in how you read the text.... "dude (that's a friendly gesture, dude!)", "you didn't write this poem!" (translation? sounds too professional for the web!) *sigh*....well just maybe??... that's my take on it... but if it wasn't meant that way, it shouldn't bother you .... obviously you know you wrote it... why not look at the comment in a positive way, though? might as well... life is short... not worth worrying about, dude! *smooch* hehe *wink* |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Michael, this might be where that idea surfaced... http://teenwriting.about.com/teens/teenwriting/library/blank/okstory3113.htm |
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Michael
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
Thanks Ron, I knew there was something fishy about this one - call it instinct I guess. Well, now that the culprit is identified, is there actually anything one can do about an underage copyright infringer and plagiarist, other than just contacting the sponsor of the page she posted it on and having it removed??? Michael |
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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Send an email here: teenwriting.guide@about.com |
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Kit McCallum
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Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
Sigh ... it looks like it's in a few more places too Michael. I've been fighting with some of this myself over the last while. It's really aggravating ... http://www.faeryamy.homestead.com/pagetwo.html http://skyline.zerion.com/irc/written%5Cpoetry%5Ceidolonvoid.txt given credit here: http://hometown.aol.com/screwmypussecat/writing.html |
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Michael
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
Already done, Sharon - but big sighs indeed - looks like I have a few more to type.... (Thank you Kit for finding those...) GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michael [This message has been edited by Michael (edited 05-29-2001).] |
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Kit McCallum
Administrator
Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
No problem Michael. When I saw this thread I did another search on my own poems and have more to contact myself. I had a little time this morning, and thought I'd do a few quick spot checks for you. This one has taken your poem "Need", renamed it and changed the very odd word. He's calling it his own Michael … http://hometown.aol.com/tunderawolf/dream.html And another … http://pub7.ezboard.com/fdaurbancamelotpoetryspokenword.showMessage?topicID=257.topic If you want to do a pretty comprehensive review, what I've found works best, is to have your author's page from the main site up in one window http://netpoets.com/poems/authors/0004000.htm , and go into one of the poems you want to search. Have the google search open at the "advanced" search section in a second window http://www.google.com/advanced_search . Choose a rather uncommon line from your poem, and copy and paste into the "exact phrase" portion of google, then search (I don't know if it makes a difference, but I always take the capital off the first word of the line I copied and leave off the punctuation at the end, as some people re-type it themselves and drop those). I have a template letter in Word that I use and basically fill in the blanks, and e-mail it off to the offender as I go. I've found people to be pretty good about removing it entirely or properly acknowledging in some cases after I've contacted them. If they've taken full credit as the writer as they did above, I use a pretty strong letter and tell them they have 48 hours to remove it. I know how frustrating this is … but hope this helps ... |
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Janet Marie Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
Posts 18554 |
They say imitation is a form of flattery, and in some ways I guess it is a compliment that some one was so taken with a poem that they wanted it to speak for them... and I guess this is chance we take posting our work all over cyberspace... BUT, I just went and looked at all these places where M's poems have been posted and it was very disturbing to see his words that have touched and effected me so many times, with someone elses name attached. I have heard about this many times and remember this coming up before with Kit... but this was the first time I saw the actual poems claimed. It makes me wonder if I even want my poems that are in wait, to be posted on the main site. But I guess if someone really wants to do this...they can find them in the forums as well. Anyway...thanks Kit for the info on the search... And M...if its any consolation... I share your Grrrrrrr!!  Good luck in your efforts to take back your work. Thanks also to Ron for all you do to try and protect us against this. |
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Elizabeth
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Member Ascendant
since 1999-06-07
Posts 6871Minnesota |
Check out Ms. Jackie's biography. |
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Kit McCallum
Administrator
Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
It can be frustrating and even a little shocking initially JM. It's really a matter of doing a search now and again and sending out appropriate letters when needed. Please don't let it deter you from posting your work at the main site or anywhere else. In the long run, I've found the positive feedback from the main site far outweighs the negatives of these very aggravating and irritating few. Be it the internet or hard copy ... if they want to copy it, they will ...  |
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Michael
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who helped in digging up these sites. I never dreamed this problem could be so "out of hand". I appreciate everything you've all done here, with any luck I'll soon have my poetry removed from these and all the other sites I've found containing it. Michael |
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