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New forum needed??????? who knows...what do you think?

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Poet deVine
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25 posted 11-18-2000 12:14 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

We could try an experiment in Adult. Next to your title put a rating - you choose what to give it - an R - an X - a XX - XXX - this why we can test to see what's being read and what isn't.

Is that fair?

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26 posted 11-18-2000 02:46 AM       View Profile for PanDol   Email PanDol   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PanDol

I just posted in adult too. If I'd read this first I would have rated it....
I think it's a great idea Sharon....

Oh, I guess I can always go back and edit my tittle.
Heck, it's worth a shot.....I'll go back and rate mine....maybe we can see how this will fly huh?
So how should we do this? What should the rating be?

R, X, XX, and XXX?
Well, I'll rate it what I think, you can check it out I guess and tell me.
Ok, nighty for now!  


~PanDol

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27 posted 11-18-2000 05:33 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

PanDol, an R rating was good!  
doreen peri
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28 posted 11-18-2000 03:26 PM       View Profile for doreen peri   Email doreen peri   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for doreen peri

hehe... lol@ PanDol - did you edit your "tittle" yet? rofl

is that short for "titilate"?  

i like the self-rating idea, too - that could work -
'course sometimes i rate, sometimes, i don't..  ... but i try never to get irate anyway

(((hugs))) to all (G-rated hugs! *g... meetchya over in Adult for some R-rated ones, maybe *g)

oh and thanks panDol for the compliment.. truly
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29 posted 11-18-2000 08:13 PM       View Profile for Marsha   Email Marsha   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marsha's Home Page   View IP for Marsha

I actually do think that there is a place for another forum, not that the forums we have aren't sufficient, they are. However this is a growing community, and like all growing things, it needs to evolve. The Adult Forum is fine, but I wouldn't think my poems belong in there. Lately some of my poems have been very sensual, and it's only on reading them after others have that I've realised that maybe they have been a little warm. Sharon is very eloquent and her arguments are all valid, but there is a part of me that sees the need for a crossover section. If it were password protected, or by invitation only, there wouldn't be the need  for any embarrassment on behalf of Ron and the Moderators.

My veiw of what is or isn't acceptable isn't the issue, I am most definitely a product of the sixties. So my attitudes are reflected in that, but it's not personal oppinions that you are after. The subject is would a new forum be a good idea, and I most definitely say yes. There are several reasons but the main one is that this is a forum, and open forums are just that. I truly believe that there is nothing disgusting or wrong within a loving relationship. Still what I would consider normal behaviour is unlikely to be viewed with the same savoir faire by someone else. So if it came to a vote, I would opt for another forum.

This is of course only my opinion, and I'm sure there will be others who can argue far more eloquently for no new forums.
Take care
                 Marsha  


Take back the hope you gave,- I claim
Only a memory of the same
Robert Browning


[This message has been edited by Marsha (edited 11-19-2000).]
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30 posted 11-18-2000 11:48 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Okay. . . now it's my turn to address this. . .

Bottom line. . . there is no need for another forum. . . period. . .

Why?  Because that is what the Adult Forum is for.  It's for topics of a "Mature Nature".  Now, what does that include?  It includes poetry of a "sensual" or "erotic" nature.  Poetry that challenges your mindset, that makes you think.  If you'll go the the Adult forum, you'll see that I've moved some topics up to illustrate.  

Now then, what should we rate the poems there?  I for one, think that it's not necessary to "rate" poems, and I will not do it.  

My Adult posts run the gamut, from sweet and seductive to down and dirty. . . because that's what I write. . . and I have no problem having my work next to anyone else's. . .in fact. . . I'm honored to be included with the poets that write in that forum.  It's very difficult to write good erotica and Adult poetry, and they do it with style, with grace, and with a very mature attitude.  They are people that are comfortable with expressing that side of themselves, and sharing themselves with others.

I would say that if you don't want to have your work in the Adult forum, don't post it there. . . if you're embarassed to be seen with the other work that is there. . . then don't put it there. . . but, don't expect that we don't want you. . . we want you. . . we have a good time in Adult. . . we laugh, we cry, we flirt like crazy. . . and it's all in fun. . . we know it. . . and we enjoy it. . .  

If you're offended with what you read there. . . then don't go, or let one of the Moderators know. . . or, there's a little thing called a "Back" button on your browser. . . if you don't like what you're reading. . . don't read it. . .

Now then, there are guidelines. . .they are enforced. . . and they will be enforced more strictly as has been shown. . . so, don't be offended if something of yours gets moved to Adult and you think that you're going to get fewer responses that way. . . on the contrary, we have more "lurkers" in Adult than you think. . . you might be surprised. . .

Adult exists for you. . . for us. . . it's worked so far. . . and as Mom said. . . "If it ain't broke. . . don't fix it. . . "

There you go. . . my 34 cents. . . which probably isn't a lot. . . but, it's mine. . .  

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[This message has been edited by Sven (edited 11-18-2000).]
PanDol
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31 posted 11-19-2000 02:54 PM       View Profile for PanDol   Email PanDol   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PanDol

OK doreen.... ROLFMBO! Looks like I need to edit more than
just my "Tittle"   Hehehe
OK, so the joke is on me....what's new!

Anyway, that's all I have to say for today!
You all take care now, ya hear!




~PanDol

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32 posted 11-23-2000 08:36 AM       View Profile for White Wolf   Email White Wolf   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for White Wolf

Ok ok.  I think everyone has valid points but I have a question.  What about those 16 or 17 year olds who wish to write this kind of poetry.  Personally I feel that they have a right to write poetry of this material, maybe no read but definitely write it.  Anyway I just thought if everyone is being so technical that I would just bring this question up where it belongs.


The White Wolf
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33 posted 11-23-2000 12:31 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

In the past, if an underage member has written something that is considered adult, it is moved to the Adult forum. They usually don't post it in Adult in the first place, as even if they write it, they are not given access until they are legally of age.
Kevin Rose
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34 posted 11-24-2000 04:32 PM       View Profile for Kevin Rose   Email Kevin Rose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kevin Rose

Loads of good opinions and good thoughts here,  so here is my 27 pennies worth (the price of a stamp here in england)

I think there is a case here for another forum, for the more sensual writing, which concentrates on the physical side of love.

Over here in the UK there are the following film classifications...

U-  Unlimited-  suitable for all
PG-  parental guidance
12-  Self explanatory
15-  see the theme?
18-  no prizes.

I think having a halfway house where the more mature poets can feel comfortable posting their risque poems where it is not alongside torture and the like.  I would defy anyone to find me a typical 16 year old who is not actively thinking about sex.  In fact after puberty hits thats pretty much ALL they think about.  Letting them read about fetish however is not good.

maybe a section which is members only like adult, but where an adult has to approve a minor having permission to look, but without an age limit as such?

I dont know if that would be too much of a beurocratic burden though.  It would mean however that the Adult would be for the serious adult stuff, and people who do get offended dont have to risk running into torture when they want to post some of their more steamy works.  I think it would be a pretty active forum.

Kevin.
 
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