I agree, so totally that these subjects can be over emotional, heck, just look at me...LOL...but, and I mean this....if, one cannot talk about frightening subjects or feelings that cause disharmony, then those feelings just grow and grow and eventually the author becomes silent...I do agree that this may or may not be the place to discuss them, and I know the harm that can come from these kind of debates but to simply close it off, I'm sorry, that simply isn't the way...maybe I'm not taking into consideration the emotional considerations behind that decision and yes, we are all human and have many different emotional responses that give us our eventual guidelines....I just think that suicide whilst should never and I mean NEVER be glorified, should however be discussed, solutions should be found and guidance should be offered...and as always, there is always a time and a place...and yes, I agree this is a poetry board but we do hear and read poems that talk of this situation, we do respond in caring ways with great advice, albeit meaningless at that time to the author becuase they simply don't think clearly, but this, was about soemthing we discuss, write about, ALL the time....
I'll tell you for nothing, as old as I am, as wise as I think I am, I have no more idea about buying or using a condom other than blowing up a baloon for a party...are we saying therefore, that is it ok to talk about part of a subject but not the whole...should I go off and seek instructions and then come and talk about love, because dare I say it, I think love or sharing is about care and condoms may prevent STD's but if you love, which matters most, showing love, giving love or ending your life prematurely because you cared enough to find a site that told you how to use ...well, you get my meaning, I'm sure...
The point is, all discussions should be available, I don't like some of what happened in Dark but it did, I just neglected to answser or when the whole subject came up, I offered my opinion, but you never close a subject without closing people off entirely and as people, under 18, under 16, surely the only limit should be conduct, not age?
Ooops, I rambled and I really don't mean to sound bad tempered, cause I'm not...honest indians..
Ron: I've just reread your response and I ask just one question ...if you were Ashely's father, what would your answer be and the smae applies to you Nan, if you were Asheley's mum, what would you talk about...I'll lay odds on, you would both, talk, uncomfortable you may bem butI think your love of your children would surface in perhaps a way that neither of you would admit here, because damn it, you BOTH care, I know, I talked with both of you on ocassions and you both just care...may not have many answers but there is no way, either of you would say " this topic is closed !!! Tell me I am wrong?
[This message has been edited by RainbowGirl (edited 07-18-2000).]