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Alicat
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25 posted 07-16-2000 06:54 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Hi there Kess.  First off, allow me to congratulate you on voicing an opinion that many thought, but had not the time or courage to espouse.  And, yes, this was the perfect place for such.  You had and have some very valid concerns, some of which are a problem.  Irregardless of votes an author garners, Ron has the final say-so for inclusion.  Thank you again for airing out this topic, and for letting moderators and members know.

Portia, no worries.  Even though I realize that different forums attract different people, it's well worth the risk to explore.  Nobody's gonna bite your head off or bark down the walls if you stray into their 'territory'.  Just go out there and enjoy, sample, see.  All of us started as 'newbies'.  And, well, personally, the influx of 'newbies' intent on getting published doesn't bother me a whit.  What does is when someone posts several poems for submission within minutes of each other...guess it could be called too much of a good thing.  However, this was a problem way before Voices was a forum, and will be after the forum is archived.  Hmm....I can see I've strayed and rambled again....better end this one now.  BTW, welcome to PiP, Portia.  


Alicat, the ramblin rover
X Angel
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since 11-07-1999
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26 posted 07-16-2000 11:18 PM       View Profile for X Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for X Angel

ahhh Passions...the place to air our disputes and then go on still liking each other afterwards!  
I love it!
Sunshine
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27 posted 07-17-2000 09:58 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Kess, if I may? One more comment and then I will go back to quietly reading this thread...

Ron's vision of Voices thrilled many. Numerous comments in this thread are on target.

You know why I submitted?  Because I believe in "if" and "hope"..."If" one of my pieces were selected, my "hope" of being amid some of the wonderful poets here in Passions, in book form, would have materialized.

You know what? If my "if" and "hope" do not materialize, that's not going to make me disappear! It is going to be one of the catalysts to show me how to improve. This book is going to hold the best that Passions can offer. It will be my touchstone and my resource.

So to all...good luck.  We will all benefit accordingly, and our spirits will soar!

Sunny

~~~Keep your face to the sunshine and you cannot see the shadow.
Helen Keller ~~~

When you want to be loved, look within...KRJ


RainbowGirl
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28 posted 07-17-2000 11:21 AM       View Profile for RainbowGirl   Email RainbowGirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit RainbowGirl's Home Page   View IP for RainbowGirl

Portia:  Oh sweetheart (oops, hope you don't mind..*g* )...I'm sitting here grinning ...In case anyone hasn't said the only reason I got stuck with Senior member or whatever it is that I'm called is because I post a lot, it's indicative of the number of posts you see, not my age, I swear...on the other hand I am getting on a bit..*g*..

By the sounds of it you have great humour so I'm positive your adventures here will be great.. )

HUGS

X-Angel: Yep, I agree with you wholeheartedly and isn't it great to discuss something and still hand out the hugs..

HUGS

Skye: I think and still do that you have every reason to voice your concerns in whatever area...The way I see it you can only know what other people think if you ask or broach the subject and I like a good discussion and it's great to know no one will be offended if I say soemthing out of turn...so thanks for bringing it up..

HUGS

Severn
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29 posted 07-17-2000 08:06 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Been sitting here quietly reading...

now I have to open my mouth - compulsive you know...

lol

Kess - yup...you seriously echoed many of my thoughts. I said to C awhile ago that I would not compromise my integrity by voting for poems I didn't personally consider book 'material' etc...I have stuck to that. If I don't 'get in' then shrug. That isn't why I am here anyway.

Most of the guts of your argument has been debated thoroughly so I have only a few comments:

Stating the obvious: I really do think favouritism is somewhat inevitable...given we are a community and communities have groups of friends...that is not however a justification. I am but inclined to be a fatalist at times. LOL.

Heather - you are a sweetie - count me in the group hug, just cause...  

Portia - Well...by now you most likely know I am a firmly avowed fan of your Emerald cat/Aunt poems (and for those of you who read this - I really encourage you to go to Dark Passions and find them - well worth reading).

'I will be here all week for rotten tomato/cabbage dodging...'

I don't think you need to worry about that - this isn't what the Alley is for hon. LOL.

You have as much right to your opinion as anyone here.

(And I am only a Member Emeritus, because during my summer holidays and after experiencing a rough time I retreated away from the physical life and posted obssessively...heheh)

Hugs
K

(P.S - feel free to venture out anywhere you like in the forums - after all, that is why they exist...and you are definitely welcome)

A Romantic Heart
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Forever In Your Heart


30 posted 08-08-2000 02:27 AM       View Profile for A Romantic Heart   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for A Romantic Heart

Kess,
You speak the same thoughts I was having, glad someone had the courage to speak up, I kind-of sensed a scratch my back, I'll scratch yours thing...but At first I dismissed it..I don't use my ICQ...and  never have to send a url to  any  poems. I believe poems should stand on their own.
I haven't  worried or thought about any of my poems getting in the book, hey  it was if I was just posting as usual, and I still fel the same way. Politics is everywhere!!! it starts in school, it is even in church!, any time there is a group, you always have an incrowd!! or click  so shall  we say, FAMILIES are ONE...not just a chosen few,it is easy to love the people who love us, but we need to love the  people who   don't love  us as well,  maybe it would  change their way of loving others...if they were shown how to love  people the right way.
As for voting, I think Ron should let some poets who  don't know us or have never seen passions vote on the poems, then they would judge in all fairness...after all that is what America is founded on...justice for all!!
This reply  was   not related to anything personal or reflecting  voting on any of my poems...just feelings!!!

I  love you  all!!! Let us be that Passions Family!!!
Elizabeth Santos
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since 11-08-1999
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31 posted 08-09-2000 07:35 AM       View Profile for Elizabeth Santos   Email Elizabeth Santos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Elizabeth Santos

Sorry, I never looked at the book as a popularity contest, never thought it was, and was happy to read the rules and know that there were safeguards to help limit the number of poems published by any one poet, and have hoped all along that many teens will be included
My greatest problem is forgetting to vote. I read a poem, give it two thumbs up, hope it will be published, and then forget to check the little box. I don't seem to have the concerns that all of you have. I only vote for poems that touch me in some way, by the content or by the beauty of the poetry.
I think the book will reflect passions as a whole and I think it will be beautiful.
Wren
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32 posted 08-09-2000 09:23 AM       View Profile for Wren   Email Wren   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wren

Forgive me for being really dense, but what is "ICQ"? *blushes* (Don't think I'm not aware of my own stupidity!)
-Wren
P.S. I agree with you all the way, whitch is why I have never put one of my own poems up for the book thingy.

The thread of destiny
Unknown by anyone
Unseen by anyone
Winds around your heart
Moist with tears
-Vampire Princess Miyu Theme
Not A Poet
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Posts 4427
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33 posted 08-09-2000 10:50 AM       View Profile for Not A Poet   Email Not A Poet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Not A Poet's Home Page   View IP for Not A Poet

Well Kess, I hope you are wrong but I fear you are right, at least somewhat. When the project started things seemed to be going as Ron proposed. But after a while, it started to fall apart, or so I perceived. It became something of a feeding frenzie with the same names showing up over and over. As you said, some of the poems were excellent while some were not. (Of course that is just my opinion.) But the number of responses and (all we can do is assume or suspect) the number of votes appeared out of proportion to the quality but more to the names.

Well, I have voted for many poems by quite a few authors but there have been many more that I did not, whether I commented or not. I can only hope that it all works out for the best and the book will be a smashing success. I guess we'll know soon.




Pete

Imagination is more important than knowledge
Albert Einstein
juliet_2u
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since 07-23-2000
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34 posted 08-10-2000 07:58 AM       View Profile for juliet_2u   Email juliet_2u   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for juliet_2u

Wow, I'm sitting here reading all this and kinda speechless. I probably don't even have a right to address this issue being that I am fairly new to Passions. It's hard for me to even consider myself a poet even. Just someone that rights down what shes sees and feels. I came to this site and was overwhelmed with the quality of work I saw and felt like I had finally found my home. But I'm really sadden to learn all this. I have been noticing things that bothered me but tried to ignore it. As for the book, what a wonderful idea Ron came up with. Just a shame its came to this all for the sake of whoever desiring to be published. Myself, I have no hopes or dreams of ever being in a book my dabblings aren't that good. I guess what I'm trying to say in a nutshell is, I'm deeply hurt to learn this. But thank god it's been exposed.Finally for what it's worth (and I'm sure it's not much, lol),I think my time at Passions is now over. I wish all of you the best of luck and much joy. Take great care and may the Lord always bless you and keep you. Juls
Elizabeth Santos
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since 11-08-1999
Posts 9405
Pennsylvania


35 posted 08-10-2000 09:17 AM       View Profile for Elizabeth Santos   Email Elizabeth Santos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Elizabeth Santos

Juliet,
I am sorry you would want to leave Passions because of this one post. I don't know what is going on in ICQs, I'm not even sure what that is, but I know I have never been solicited to vote for anyone's poem and I believe the great majority of poets have been fair in their voting practices. The rules ensure that not any one poet can have more than but a few poems. I hope that you decide to stay and post your poetry, as this is a great place to learn and make friends.
Take care
Liz
juliet_2u
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36 posted 08-10-2000 09:39 AM       View Profile for juliet_2u   Email juliet_2u   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for juliet_2u

Liz, I do love Passions. It's been so great to find people like me. I really don't know how to say what I'm feeling on the inside right now and grrr to that, lol. Lets face it, there is an obvious "click" here but that's life. And you're gonna find that everywhere you go. But learning all this has just made me feel kinda sick. I think you might be right though. This is a good place to make friends. And I know there's some here not concerned with being popular and for them it would be worth sticking around for. So thanks for the friendly advice. It was very much appreciated. And I shall continue to come and read my little heart out, hehe. Have a wonderful day and thanks again, Juls
RainbowGirl
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37 posted 08-10-2000 11:19 AM       View Profile for RainbowGirl   Email RainbowGirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit RainbowGirl's Home Page   View IP for RainbowGirl

Juliet: That's sad because if I remember the title of the poem I read by you correctly, was it "River of Rainbows"?  It was so lovely, why on earth would you want to leave after penning such an outstanding poem...well to me it was..

Would be a sad loss for all of us if you did leave..

HUGS
juliet_2u
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38 posted 08-10-2000 06:31 PM       View Profile for juliet_2u   Email juliet_2u   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for juliet_2u

Not to worry Rainbowgirl. I'm taking Liz,s advice and not going anywhere. So there are a few self-promoting people here. Doesn't change the way I feel about Passions. And I thank her for making me see that.
Juls
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