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Alicat
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0 posted 07-30-99 10:33 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Howdy friends and neighbors. This is your lovely kilted moderator speaking without notes upon this fine evening. Though we all know that each and every one of us have different ways of self-expression, it seems far too often that those differences get maligned. And we all have our own views and our own views on other views, but let not this degenerate into primal mud slinging...that is for politics, not poetry.

Yea, verily, and whatnot, we also have styles we prefer...and others we abhor. Personally, I detest cummings' poetry; but, on occasion, I will read one of his works. However, I do not hate cummings. Can you see the difference?

During the course of posting material, there will be some pieces that are loved, hated, or neutrally viewed. And this is OK. If you don't like something you read, either don't respond, or do so in a constructive way. Why do you not like it? How could it be improved? What does this mean? Etc.

One final note. I know there are many, many, many poets here, and more joining each day. Take the time to read and respond..react if you may...to their work. You might just make a friend. And it is OK to respond solely to your friends' writings, but think of all the art you are missing out on...take the time to read something from someone you don't know at all, or one you know marginally. It might be worth the effort.


Alicat



[This message has been edited by Alicat (edited 07-30-99).]
Ladycat
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1 posted 07-31-99 06:19 AM       View Profile for Ladycat   Email Ladycat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ladycat's Home Page   View IP for Ladycat

Very good point Mr. Kilted Moderator Cat Head Man...

Let's all live, love, and learn.. Time to get back to writing.. Now how about a cumming's piece.. (inside joke)
oh say can you see..
Hey Cat-- you think that I might be as good as him one day?

Love,
Lady

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wayoutwalt
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2 posted 08-05-99 02:05 AM       View Profile for wayoutwalt   Email wayoutwalt   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wayoutwalt

boohoo twasnt it you hoo said i wrote like cummings ooo boohoo
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3 posted 08-06-99 11:39 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Good for you AliCat. I was getting a little weary of reading the whining. We are here not only to purport our own writings, but to critique and commend as well. Bravo for sticking your neck out.

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Look, then, into thine heart, and write ~~~ Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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4 posted 08-12-99 05:49 AM       View Profile for elvira   Email elvira   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for elvira



[This message has been edited by elvira (edited 08-22-99).]
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5 posted 04-21-2001 12:08 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Let's play bump.
Allan Riverwood
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6 posted 04-21-2001 12:50 PM       View Profile for Allan Riverwood   Email Allan Riverwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Allan Riverwood

I'm in.  *bump*  

As for the question, I have replying standards myself.  And I think maybe one of the talks me and PdV and a few other people have been having somehow provoked the resurrection of this thread.

Allan Riverwood is one of the "omni-repliers" in Teen #4, along with Fading Away, Dopey_Dope, and surprisingly many others who just recently joined.  
However, I do have reply standards.  I will reply to poetry unless the author does either of the following:

1.  puts "please read" in the title.
2.  posts and never replies.

That's all though, I reply to everything else that I see come into Teen #4.  I just have a few peeves.  
~Allan

Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day.††Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.††
~Unknown

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7 posted 04-21-2001 02:32 PM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

HIYA KITTEN!  
Thanks for this!
Agrees..
Bumpity Bump ya up to the top with ya!  

still d-i-s-c-o-n-n-e-c-t-e-d
I am bound by this, you see...to become Night's sole mistress, and I am jealous in my endeavours for his attention.

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8 posted 04-21-2001 06:48 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

If you'd like to take a peek into how I reply and my scheduel here at Pip then here you go:

Sanctuary:
- Family Dialogue (reply to all)
- Poetic Haven (reply to all)

Deputy Moderator Lounge (reply to all)

Discussion:
- Staff Lounge (reply if necessary)
- Piptalk Lounge (reply to all)
- Alley (reply to all)
- Feelings (reply to all)
- Anouncement&Links (reply to all)

Deputy Moderator Lounge (2nd check in case new stuff was posted)

- The Corner Pub (reply to whatever catches my eye)
- Dark Passions (reply to whatever catches my eye)
- Holiday (reply to all)
- Adult Forum (reply to whatever catches my eye)
- Teen explorer (reply to all)
- Teen Poetry 4 (reply to all)

Then run back the whole thing all over again about 3-4 times a day hahaha....

ok bye!



Kit McCallum
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9 posted 04-23-2001 06:43 AM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

LOL ... Javier, when do you sleep!  
Severn
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10 posted 04-23-2001 07:21 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Sheesh Dopey...

I feel like I should be saluting you...

K

All obscurity starts with a danger:
Your dangers are many. I
Cannot look much but your form suffers
Some strange injury
Sylvia Plath

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11 posted 04-23-2001 08:01 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

How long does that take Javier?
Fading Away
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12 posted 04-23-2001 07:17 PM       View Profile for Fading Away   Email Fading Away   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Fading Away

I also would like to take part in this discussion.  I think that this was the right time to post this, Alicat.

Everyone has his or her personal poetry preferences.  And everyone has his or her personal poet preferences.  However, I do agree with you that there is a lot of art that is being missed if you pick and choose to whose poetry you want to read and whose poetry you donít.  I have been a part of many personal discussions with a few others here at PIP as of late about this topic.  

I know I have my pet peeves as to who does what in their posts in Passions.  For example, I think all caps in posts are quite bothersome, and posts that have extensive amounts of spelling errors get annoying after a while.  But how do they know that you don't like reading that if you don't tell them?  And telling them in a nice, constructive way is always a plus.  Then, if they choose, they can change that little bit about their posts that might annoy you and they might get a few more replies because of it.  What's the harm in that?  It ends with you being happy, and the person being happy.

However, I think that many people in Passions are not open to this type of criticism, even if it is conducted in a constructive way.  Many take these types of critiques as personal attacks instead of the way they were meant to be taken.  I have seen this especially in Teen.

This produces a problem and causes lots of havoc that doesnít need to be a part of PIP.  This problem brings about the critique flags.  I understand they are there for a reason, but really, Iím sure everyone here has critiqued someoneís poetry even if they didnít have a flag up at the time.  It only becomes a problem when the poet who is receiving the replies gets angry, and snaps.

So the solution?  Everyone can be a part of that.  Itís simple: If you want to be critiqued, make a flag.  If you donít, then maybe let everyone know in the post that you arenít looking for critiques.  Either way, critiques are should be taken as personal criticism, and not, by all means, as any kind of attack.

With that said, maybe we could all change are ways in PIP.  Iím not saying that Iím not a criminal of these same things, and these things I intend to change.  But everyone could learn something from the poets here.  Take advantage of it!  Donít miss out because youíre too proud to read otherís work.

--Marie

subconsciously, i think i can eat so much to make my stomach hurt, instead of my heart.

Temptress
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13 posted 04-23-2001 09:36 PM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

I don't think EVERYONE here at Passions takes a critique as a personal attack. There are those who wouldn't like critiques, and there is a critique indicator that lets the reader know if they encourage them or not. Now, there are some who get angry or annoyed at critiques when they are given, but I've seen that happen mostly when they are not flagged for critiques but get them anyway. I can understand that.

still d-i-s-c-o-n-n-e-c-t-e-d
I am bound by this, you see...to become Night's sole mistress, and I am jealous in my endeavours for his attention.

Alicat
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14 posted 04-23-2001 10:06 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Wow...and to think this relavent topic was posted almost 2 years ago...  

I'm just too good for my own bad self.  


LOL
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15 posted 04-23-2001 11:43 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Well depends how fast people have replied since my last time coming on. Usually the Initial fly through each day takes about 2 hours   sometimes 3 maximum.
The other fly by's are just me searching for a treasure for the most recent post hehe.

But i'm in passions about ....erm...6 hours a day minimum....unless i'm busy like today......today was hectic, but yea....normally 6hrs.

coyote
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16 posted 04-24-2001 12:48 AM       View Profile for coyote   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for coyote

LOL at Alicat.
Hey man, I just thought it was my sloooooow connection.  

PdV, Dontcha think Javier deserves a promotion or something?!  
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17 posted 04-24-2001 01:34 PM       View Profile for Fading Away   Email Fading Away   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Fading Away

haha.. I didn't notice that Alicat.

Gave me a laugh..

And Javi, goodness!!  Talk about devotion...

--Marie

subconsciously, i think i can eat so much to make my stomach hurt, instead of my heart.

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18 posted 04-25-2001 04:19 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Yes, let's talk about devotion!
I will be going on a cruise for a week from May 6th till May 13th....know what the first thing that popped in my head was when i FOUND OUT? "Oh God...no passions for a week?!?! I'll never be able to catch up!!!!"
God!!! I'm so stressing out over this....i need to reply here....ack!

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