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Christopher
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25 posted 08-25-99 02:23 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

Sorry, but I have to put my nickel (ok, it's only two cents) in. I have to agree with Ron on everything so far ED. It is exceedingly difficult to draw a boundary between what should be allowed and what shouldn't be. I also think that leaving the responsibility on the administrator's head, per se, is a cop-out in and of itself. Each of us should take the responsibility for ourselves. But as I'm sure the administrators know, people aren't likely to do that. As an example: I posted something recently in the adult forum that was teetering on the edge. I was concerned that I might have taken it a little too far. Now don't misunderstand, I didn't write something in order to achieve a shock effect or anything like that. I wrote something and I posted it. But, I also wrote before the poem, that if ANYONE was offended, it should be removed. I am 100% against censorship, but, while I expect my rights to be protected, I can't expect them to be preserved at the risk of another's being infringed upon. As you can guess, if it was in the adult forum, it must have been pretty bad. So far, no one has objected to it, and the administrator, (lovely ms deVine,) has allowed it to remain until the time someone might be offended. But if it is removed, I will have no problem with it. I had a hard time deciding whether or not to even post it. In this I shared the responsibility, (perhaps a good compromise,) with the admin. and the members.
If someone is bothered by something, they do have the right to say something about it. If you didn't let them have the right, then you would be just as bad as someone who censored you.

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JP
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26 posted 08-25-99 12:25 PM       View Profile for JP   Email JP   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit JP's Home Page   View IP for JP

Hey, it's me again... I found two more pennies that I wanted to through into the pot...

ED, people who buy Playboy know what to expect inside, therefore they are not likely to get offended by it - however, by law, they are also over 18. If the clerk sales a Playboy to someone under 18 that clerk is risking his or her job, and possible citation from the police. Ron is simply carrying that ideal over to a site which, I believe, he wants to protect from unnecessary difficulties.

We are in a time when far right conservatives (actually, the far left as well) are trying to restrict a medium which has allowed the freedom of speech to flourish worldwide. The smartest thing for those of us who use and depend on this medium to do is to use a bit of common sense and take reasonable steps to keep the fanatics from collecting ammo against us.

What happens if a 14-15 year old kid gets on the net, comes here, reads "Man's Desire" on the adult forum, because he or she has free access to it, and his/her parent walks in and sees what the child is reading?

The child loses access to the net and all the wonders it contains, the mother testifies before congress about how the evil net is allowing youngsters to gain free access to smut and subversive material, restrictions are put in place and you and I have to purchase $50 a year "age verification" services just to access this site so we can read and post poetry.

Ron is doing the smart thing and the right thing. Besides, y'all be 18 soon and can read everything there is in the adult forum.

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27 posted 08-26-99 08:31 AM       View Profile for Toerag   Email Toerag   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toerag

Now of course I can't be a great judge of all this cuz as you all know I'd never write anything that was inappropriate anywhere....(being the shy, quiet, calm, reserved kinda person you all know me as), but I can't stand sensors! Why I just had one replaced in my truck and that damn thing was almost a hundred bucks!!! Oh, yall are talking about Censors...never mind.....
LngJhnAg
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28 posted 08-26-99 11:10 AM       View Profile for LngJhnAg   Email LngJhnAg   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LngJhnAg

welp... I'd like to think I could point my budding-poet daughter toward Open Poetry and not have to apologize later for sending her into a site that was more suited for Adult poetry. to heck with censorship, I want my daughter to improve her poetry skills, and the Open Poetry place seems like a terrific place to start. If it gets trashed, then she'll likely lose access to people like Nan, Brad, Ron, et al. Yanking a thread may upset the author, but it may make the Open Poetry site more accessible to people who truly want to be better poets. Yank away, Ron, et al. I haven't seen any reason yet to question your decisions.
Toerag
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Ala bam a


29 posted 08-26-99 01:44 PM       View Profile for Toerag   Email Toerag   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toerag

Okay LongJohn....I understand......I guess I would feel the same....and will take that into consideration in the future....

[This message has been edited by Toerag (edited 08-26-99).]
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