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Larry C
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Poet Critics
By Larry Chadwick


We write our poems and post them up,
So that others our writing may enjoy.
But then we wait with baited breath,
With motives that may have another ploy.

I’ll confess and maybe you should too,
When it comes to critics of our own poems…we are the worst.
It seems to me the post is meant ourselves to reassure,
Fearing still that others will ignore our words in verse.

After all, we’ve read it over and over again,
Analyzing everything…doing it one more time.
But should it not get enough attention, like we want,
We go back and review it once more…doing it line by line.

That’s okay it’s how we learn our craft,
But should I like what you have done,
Does that make me a poor judge of poetry,
For liking the verses that you shun?

So lighten up and take a break,
Most of us are too insecure.
I hope you like what I do,
But I like yours for darn sure!

March 22, 2002




Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy

© Copyright 2002 Larry Chadwick - All Rights Reserved
BluesSerenade
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1 posted 2002-03-23 02:20 AM


Yes, we are our worst critic, and I will confess something here,
I have a mild panic attack as soon as I hit that submit button.
I have to walk away for a minute in order to compose myself.  
I always like what you do and how you go about doing it.
To me your poetry is quite clear and honest,
without giving yourself away.  

(edit edit)

[This message has been edited by BluesSerenade (03-23-2002 02:20 AM).]

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2 posted 2002-03-23 03:19 AM


I am my own worst enemy when it comes to my poetry. I'm always surprised when I get replies. Everyone else loves it, but...

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Hopelessly in love

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3 posted 2002-03-23 07:26 AM


Larry darling boy your writing is utterly divine, your form is perfect, and I always love it. You know this is perfect, you wrote what more can I say, you are a wonderful writer. Now I on the other hand am not, I could be better if I applied some effort to it but you know me and work. Mmm exactly.

Absolutely perfect poetry, beautiful writing darling boy.  


Love and warm stuff
As always
Mushy


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4 posted 2002-03-23 07:48 AM


Many ways to look at it, Sir Larry. Yes, we certainly get a warm glow to see others respond to our work. I appreciate every comment I get.....but, also, we know within ourselves if we have written something good or not and satisfying our own opinion should be the our biggest challenge and goal. Others liking it is icing on the cake. We are always tougher on ourselves than any critic could be...
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5 posted 2002-03-23 07:51 AM



In encouraging constructive critique
does the poet want to learn?
by bread and butter he survives
but can he live on his pen's turn?

or is it for the joy of this,
a simple line of light
that he would take within such bliss
to hear it said, "All right!"

good words, my poet friend!

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6 posted 2002-03-23 08:04 AM


Larry
I say true and thank you. And tend to what balladeer said. Enjoyed

amigo
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7 posted 2002-03-23 10:54 AM


Larry, but I like yours for darn sure! i sure do,...that said, entering here with baby steps, i also feel the way you feel...would really look forward for views from others, which i feel makes growing up easier....


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8 posted 2002-03-23 11:09 AM


Well now, haven’t you just written the truth here? I’ll agree with Lori, I always have a mild panic attack when I hit that submit button too. I had never shared my poetry before coming to these pages, but everyone is so warm and encouraging here, that I don’t mind putting out there for all to see.

If she who dies with the most toys wins, then can I have some toy boys please?

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9 posted 2002-03-23 11:46 AM


I will keep editing until satisfied..even if it takes me two days..ha..i change the form two or three times sometimes before i post it..enjoyed Larry

                    ~Victoria~


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10 posted 2002-03-23 11:59 AM


Hey Larry, this is excellent.How very true, I am so unsure of some of my poems, and sometimes fear to post them. then you guys on here encourage me and bring me back up. How nice to have poet friends. Well just so you know, I love all your work. floria

Floria

"Alas for those that never sing,
But die with all their music in them"
(Oliver Wendell Holmes)

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11 posted 2002-03-23 12:58 PM




(big hugggssssss) Oh Larry, I understand how you feel, when I first began to post here, I was so very shy and timid and felt I was going to self-destruct after I clicked that Submit button, and for the first 8 months I was here, my poems were remotely untouched comment-wise, but now I have grown to realize that the most important thing is to be proud yourself of what you write and there is no reason to slander oneself and it's not about the number of comments we get but rather the credit we give ourselves! (big hugggssssss) This is a very emotionally sincere poem, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Larry, thank you for sharing!



May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

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12 posted 2002-03-23 01:01 PM


Larry, you know i'm a fan of your poetry!
Sometimes I post a poem that I feel is one of my best works and it turns into a flop, then I post something that I feel is OK and everyone loves it! It's so odd that others like poems of mine that I don't particularly like!

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13 posted 2002-03-23 01:12 PM


The word 'critic' should be eliminated altogether!!

Good poem Larry.

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14 posted 2002-03-23 09:44 PM


You have said it exactly how I feel. Words are perceived in the mind of the reader. As the saying goes… One man’s trash is another man’s treasure…

Good one,
Melton

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15 posted 2002-03-23 10:23 PM


Larry C....

Truth!  Much of it...  You nailed it, so
to speak...enjoyed this...

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16 posted 2002-03-23 11:06 PM


Larry,  this is so very true, I think we are all insecure about our own talents...but thats what I love about this site...
Everyone here is so warm and so friendly, and I have felt such wonderful acceptance.
For a while, I was posting at a site called everypoet.com...and it was a totally horrible experience.  Their philosophy was that poetry should be written with the head and not with the heart....this seems backwards to me.  Also, they had a tremendous emphasis on correctness of form and style.  Each line had to have the perfect number of syllables.
They were so very insulting, they couldn't even critique a poem in a civilized manner.
I posted a poem about them here, a couple of months ago...it was called "The Poetry Police", it was about that site.....I think I'll re-post it for you.
By the way...I love your work, Larry...honestly I do, because I can tell that it comes straight from your heart.
~hugs~


copyright2002 Lyra Nesius

"poetry is life distilled"  Gwendolyn Brooks

[This message has been edited by Madame Chipmunk (03-23-2002 11:07 PM).]

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17 posted 2002-03-23 11:14 PM


Larry...Great poem with great meaning.  It is so true...we are our own worst critics. Sometimes, I've written a poem that I really felt was pretty good; but no one else seemed to share my opinion.  At other times, I wasn't thrilled with a piece and that one caught the eye of the readers.  And, I've had a couple of good poetry critics that helped me make mediocre poetry into something good.
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18 posted 2002-03-24 12:57 PM


Larry, wow your a mind reader indeed, I myself have many times not even hit the submit button because the very ending of a poem just didn't click get it haha, anyway this one fits to a T.
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19 posted 2002-03-24 01:19 AM


To all a confession: I have had several poets comment about how they think that some or all of the poetry they post is not good. Which suggests that I am a pathetic judge of what good poetry is. LOL My ignorance is likely quite evident as I know so very little about poetry, its techniques, styles and nuances. Although my daughter gave me an anthology of poetry which has fascinated me and humbled me beyond imagination...mine anyway.

I just feel strongly that we are often our own worst critics and needed to state that there is so much poetry here that uplifts and inspires me. I am overwhelmed with how much excellent poetry I can't even get to because of the reality of time. I feel some personal shame for those poems I never get to as it would be my sincere desire to read it all and respond to it all.

I continue to be overwhelmed by the acceptance and genuine respect that is daily demonstrated in these blue walls. To each of you from all that is within my heart...thank you.

[This message has been edited by Larry C (03-24-2002 01:22 AM).]

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20 posted 2002-03-24 01:48 AM


Lori,
Well...let the confessions begin! Thank you so much. And of course you know there was no intent of evoking compliments, however, I will accept them. LOL

Skyfire,
So how many good responses outweight your negative opinion of your poetry? I could start a little campaign here. No preaching here...but, you might listen to what is being said back to you. Thank you for your honest reply and for who you are.

Mushy,
So does this make you the queen of self-deprication. ROTFL Okay...I'll lighten up if you will. LOL Thanks as always.

'deer,
Without a doubt you are right. So does that make all the responses wrong? I know...I know. Just hoping to persaude people not to be so hard on themselves. *sigh*
And thanks.

Karilea,
You pose a challenging question? I think I still stand by my Constructive Critique: "Tenderness is not resented." Such a thoughtful response. Thanks.


Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy

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21 posted 2002-03-24 01:56 AM


Sy,
Rarely can you go wrong backing the 'deer.
And thanks.

amigo,
I gotta say practice and exposure make for incredible learning opportunities. And this place abounds with both. And thanks.

Tracey,
Sounds like our experience is parallel. I feel so blessed to have found PiPs as my first poetry site. I have received referals to others and just have no interest after taking a peek. I'm staying home! (pun intended) Thanks.

Victoria,
Wow...such dedication. I confess to writing most of mine in minutes with a quick check for spelling and punctuation...and then re-edits online. Oops! However, I gotta say I admire your commitment and appreciate even more the results. Thanks.

floria,
Stop. I love your poetry as well. But I must confess to finding some of my work I like the best experiencing lack luster responses! ROTFL So what do I know? And thank you so very much.

Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy

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Noah,
Yes for us first timers of any site...it is quite intimidating. I confess that was my experience. But the effort pays in huge dividends. What a blessing to be here with poets like you. Thank you Noah so much.

Joanne,
You too huh? How fun for me to have you as a friend. You know...being the old man and all. LOL Thank you.

PdV,
Enough said. (And I couldn't agree more.) Thanks.

Melton,
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure…
Wish I had known that quote. Perfect! Thanks.

Magnus,
It's kinda fun to nail it. Well...you know since it rarely happens. Thanks.

Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy

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23 posted 2002-03-24 02:07 AM


Lyra,
Is there anything in life you haven't experienced? LOL I am so pleased that you share this story. It is certainly fair warning. And where are those punks that would pick on a chipmunk...'cause I want 'em really bad! Thanks always.

Ivy Rose,
Years ago I put a huge amount of effort in to writing a poem on a complex subject. I shared it with a friend who went home and rewrote it. It was awesome! Took me a long time to figure out that a colaborative effort that is excellent is far more valuable then a solo effort that is mediocre. But a necessary lesson. Thanks as I have the same challenge.

RB1229,
Yup I got it! LOL Ah come on...click it. Thanks a bunch.

Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy

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24 posted 2002-03-24 03:27 AM


I dont know, Myself When i press the submit button on a poem i feel kind of releifed that i get it out of my system, I know that most people here are kind and will give me nice replys even though I am not quite sure they are always legit.
it is what im doin now that makes me worry, my replys, it is these that give me the gitters.

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25 posted 2002-03-24 11:55 AM


Trixter,
Welcome to Passions. A great place to hang out. And it is these posts where you start to make friends. Honesty like yours is a good sign that you will do well here. I look forward to your work.

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