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Midnitesun
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25 posted 05-17-2003 01:15 PM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

LOL at some of this.
Why the banter? I'm all for moving forward, into the ACTION/WRITE phase.
Thanks for clarifying some Q's, LP.
Now, who do I get to write with? They'll need a bizarre sense of humor.
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26 posted 05-17-2003 02:35 PM       View Profile for Crazy Eddie   Email Crazy Eddie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Crazy Eddie


Glad to see youre back LP.

quote:
Go do it


Ive been there and done that.

Im fully aware that the 500 post rule is a Sanctuary rule and not directly a Duet Club rule but the original question posted was should the Duet Club be limited to Senior Members. Your answer seems to be that as the application for the Duet Club is in the sanctuary it has to be only open to Senior Members. My question is why, what are the positives of applying it and how do they measure against the negatives?

You keep saying that posting 500 times proves that people will stay around long enough to finish the duet, I maintain it just proves that someone has posted 500 times.

If you wanted a suggestion from me about Sanctuary access you should have asked. My opinion is that the Sanctuary should be open to all members (it is anyway the Senior Members only status isnt enforced) but the number of originating posts should be restricted to promote a quality rather than quantity ethos.

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What Senior Member Status doesn't tell us is NOT the issue here, Eddie. What it DOES tell us is that whoever has 500 posts MUST be a reasonably active member of piptalk, or at least, must have been sometime in the past. It means that they've met some minimum requirement necessary to be allowed access to a forum set aside exclusively for people who have contributed that much.


As Ive mentioned the number of posts next to a username doesnt actually tell you anything with any degree of certainty about the user apart from the fact that theyve hit the submit button 500 times. I understand though that the Sanctuary itself has by definition to be just that a Sanctuary from the hectic nature of Open and that the number of posts is one, arguably flawed, option to restrict the pace. I simply believe that applying the same restriction to the Duet Club makes even less sense and highlights the absurdity of the Senior Member rule in general.
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27 posted 05-17-2003 03:12 PM       View Profile for Local Parasite   Email Local Parasite   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Local Parasite's Home Page   View IP for Local Parasite

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If you wanted a suggestion from me about Sanctuary access you should have asked. My opinion is that the Sanctuary should be open to all members (it is anyway the Senior Members only status isnt enforced) but the number of originating posts should be restricted to promote a quality rather than quantity ethos.


That's what Corner Pub is for.

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You keep saying that posting 500 times proves that people will stay around long enough to finish the duet, I maintain it just proves that someone has posted 500 times.


You seem to stop at the having-posted-500-times thing and assume that the extreme minority of people whose 500 posts are NOT valuable posts should make the Senior Members Only rule somehow absurd?

Look at the people involved in the duet club right now.  Most of them have many, many more than just 500 posts.  

What does having 500 posts tell us?  As I've already told you various times, it's a minimum requirement.  It tells us that people have made 500 posts, each of which either signified the reading or writing of a poem at piptalk, or a comment made in a discussion forum here.  Any person who has 500 posts has done that.  Of course there will be people with less than that who are better poets, who are more productive members, but how are we supposed to regulate that?  I think going by post count is probably the best way, even if there are some extremely minor problems with it.

You seem to think that post count says nothing about a person.  I say that each individual post says one thing about a person - they wrote a poem, they read and took the time to make comments on a poem, they participated in a discussion at piptalk.  It tells what they have done.  

Right now it seems like you've gone back into your old habit of making the same point over and over regardless of how many times we've refuted it.  

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Glad to see youre back LP.


Don't flatter yourself, Eddie, I'm not back to argue with you.  I'm back because I believe in the policy of Sanctuary and don't like to see it called things like "absurd."

Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world.
~Percy Bysshe Shelley

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28 posted 05-17-2003 03:31 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

All I wanna know is?

Where is Ringo?

*pout*

Disappointed with yer date?

and here I am flailing my fringe to no avail!

*wicked grin*

Y'can consider that a challenge phrase if ya like!

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29 posted 05-17-2003 03:51 PM       View Profile for Crazy Eddie   Email Crazy Eddie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Crazy Eddie

LP,

The Corner Pub differs in that its a poetry forum whereas the Sanctuary is a category or area consisting of the Poetic Haven and Family Dialogue forums, both of which are hidden forums whereas the Pub is openly advertised in the menu system.

Though if you turned the Sanctuary into a forum, moved it onto the main menu and allowed all members to post there then yes Id agree it would be exactly the same as the Corner Pub.

Im not trying to change the world or even the way the Sanctuary works the question was raised as to whether the Duet Club should be open to all members. I thought it should be but if youve decided the answer is simply no then Ill do what Ive done up to this point and live with it. That doesnt however mean Ill suddenly stop thinking its absurd however much you dislike my opinion.

Ill keep my trap firmly closed and my opinions to myself from now on and let you get on with your duets.

I look forward to reading them.
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30 posted 05-18-2003 12:42 AM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

If anyone would like to start a Duet Club outside of the Sanctuary, why not do it instead of all the discussion? and..YES..I KNOW..this was a discussion thread..no problem, but it seems like instead of focusing on the benefits at Passions in general lately, there are those focusing too much on negative nitpicky things. It almost seems as if some are more interested in battling some invisible and imagined popularity war.

The Duet Club has been started for Senior Members. If it is important enough to argue  about who should be involved, then take action...Start another club in the talk forum outside of the the Senior Members area. And before anyone asks...yes I'll participate outside of the senior member area just as much as I do outside of the senior member area.


LP..
sorry if I seem to have hijacked this with my comments. All this arguing just for the sake of arguing around Passions lately is just plain getting on my nerves.

We can't do a senior member duet club without someone getting their feathers in a fluff? I just don't get it.


You could hurt me with your bare hands. You could hurt me using the sharp edge of what you say. JEWEL

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31 posted 05-18-2003 12:57 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

You'll notice I haven't commented once, after poking my little stick into the anthill and saying "let's talk"..... just sitting back and watching 'em run round in circles, and hoping none crawl up my pants leg.....

Heh-heh....let's YOU talk......

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32 posted 05-18-2003 01:12 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I'm an aunt can I crawl up your leg?


Oh..wrong kind of ant and this isn't the flirting thread!! Sigh...
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33 posted 05-18-2003 08:02 AM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

Hey Eddie - Anybody ever tell you you're a bit of a Crazy coof?... Gotta get my daily dose of sniggles somehow...
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34 posted 05-18-2003 08:14 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

......that depends....do you tickle?


Nan, how odd, one of my real-world nicknames forever has been "Crazy Ed..." more than one of us, I see.....

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35 posted 05-19-2003 12:33 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

I don't get it either. . . would someone kindly explain it to me???



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36 posted 05-19-2003 12:58 PM       View Profile for sea_of_okc   Email sea_of_okc   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for sea_of_okc

Sigh. I would like very much to participate in a slower forum than Open rooms but alas I have not posted enough. I guess being here and there since almost the inception of this site is not sufficient to be a senior member. Guess I need to post replies to 80 more poems so I can come play with ya'll.

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37 posted 05-19-2003 01:15 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Mr. Sea of OKC, I grant you admittance to the Senior Forum!

POOF! You've definitely been around long enough to qualify TIME wise...
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38 posted 05-19-2003 01:55 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I guess I'll be sitting this dance out folks.

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39 posted 05-19-2003 03:19 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

IS your partner backing out? I'll write with you or you can write with Steve (okc). I thought Ringo was set to go...
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40 posted 05-19-2003 03:28 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

Ser...e-me...
we'll tell a story together if you want..

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41 posted 06-04-2003 12:56 PM       View Profile for Allysa   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Allysa

I may be a little late... probably am... that always happens... but anyway..

Could I still join duet club?  Or is it too late for me?  Is there going to be a duet club?

I'm confused.

[This message has been edited by Allysa (06-04-2003 12:59 PM).]

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Siofra...you ever going to get back to me...ball's in your court, remember?

[This message has been edited by Sunshine (06-06-2003 08:52 AM).]

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43 posted 06-05-2003 02:26 PM       View Profile for ESP   Email ESP   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ESP

Is it too late for me to join this club? I'm a lil confused but I'd like to join if it's not too late
Luv, Liz xxx

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44 posted 07-26-2003 02:43 AM       View Profile for garysgirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit garysgirl's Home Page   View IP for garysgirl

Well ya'll. I don't do duets (I don't think I'm good enough to write duets), but I sure do like to read the ones everybody else does. Whatever happened to this "duet club" ya'll were going to start? If it's still on, where are the duets being posted? I'd like to read them. I've seen more duets in Open lately, but they say they're from the "Dream Duet" challenges where people pick who they want to duet together. Is that the Duet Club? I'm just wondering.

And, I'd like to comment on what Temptress said....it seems like a lot of bickering has been going on lately...about all kinds of things?? In almost every thread that's started??

The challenge that Karen brought back (the I AM challenge), has had the most response of anything I've seen since I've been on here. Maybe something like that could be started back here? Something that people like me who can't (or don't know how to) do duets could participate?

I'm beginning to like this Sanctuary. It's fun to read back here.

Bye ya'll. It's time for me to go to sleep.
Hugs  
Ethel
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45 posted 07-26-2003 07:42 AM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

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46 posted 07-26-2003 09:06 AM       View Profile for littlewing   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littlewing

Ethel, I would love to write with you, if you ever feel the need . . .
it is an adventure indeed

Go see challenge - I think you will like that one


Also, most of these duets you speak of are in Sanctuary - just go back days . . .

[This message has been edited by littlewing (07-26-2003 09:08 AM).]

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47 posted 07-26-2003 11:42 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

LOL to GG! If you're not good enough, nobody is!

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48 posted 07-26-2003 05:54 PM       View Profile for Marshalzu   Email Marshalzu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marshalzu's Home Page   View IP for Marshalzu

I owe Martie an apology, after a couple of mails I failed to respond, even after the gentle prodding from a friend. I guess this is an excuse more than anything but I read what you had written and I felt intimidated and I guess I just thought that if I didn't reply to your mails then the problem would go away. Know that I have had time to take a look at the problem I have seen what I lack at the moment and I am working on improving that part of myself. So I just want to apologise with big hugs and say sorry for not replying to your mails

Andy
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Hey Andy...whenever you're ready, or not..it's okay.  I appreciate the apology...not always an easy thing to do.  Hugs!
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