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After late Joyce (for Wranx's challenge)

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A Light Breakfast (Egg, Grape, Tomato and Porridge) While Reading the Paper with Ants Acrawl
After late Joyce

Turporcentil crack of
milkface grashell pourl,
edgetomb atoll
countersuffence.

Lagcrawl the
scriptsure brinage
spun siphson ... ant and
cedanterry -- Soat,
amort err
swallit.

(for Wranx -- my late, late, late response to his challenge)

Mike, now gone dizzy -->
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1 posted 10-11-2002 08:01 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

aw man--I just hired an interpreter for James Joyce---and now I need one for YOU? sigh sigh sigh



It's true--I've got this mental block regarding Joyce--required reading rebellion, yanno...

so? I'll wait for Ed and Bri to comment, with interest.
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!
goddamn!
whew
I just read it once
so this WON'T be the last reply I give on this
I caught some of it
yesss
I love this stuff
Dude, you've got the MIND for this
wordplay
and I'm glad to see you
become a
slavezombieconvert
to MY religion
Folks?
really it IS    THE   DESERT   ISLAND  BOOK
the one EVERY man woman and child should read for the rest of their life
and can
cause it don't get boring
you will find layer after layer
meaning after meaning
it is the only christmas present you willl EVER need
the Wake
I need to shut up now
and get back to
crackin this egg
and cereal
the brickfestive (CHOMP!) eons
Wranxell B. Proud
thanks brother
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B. Squire elocution eggrandized ho-hum tea and dumped tea.
Oh, lait lo! Bakin' aches to guessed oftener.
Mourning d'oeuve chaud the whey. Wry totes and jam(bon?) twend.


Smilelacky, you half finnish?
Loved it Mikey, really, you done it proud

*Bows*

~Ed



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Okay---I'm gonna ask a favor...

smile?

someone break this down for me...and SHOW me?
I've an admitted mental block of Joyce---and now I am admittedly intrigued...but I suppose it's the language and my infamiliarity of cadence and rhythm...hell dunno..but somebody explain it to me? sigh...I hate to think of a pary going on without me. *pout*

and like a kid in class? (and I was always like this) persistant---I don't get it...

where's the dunce cap smilie?
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5 posted 10-13-2002 01:41 PM       View Profile for wranx   Email wranx   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wranx

Hey witch,
Here, I'll break down my reply. But first, read it aloud and listen.

So, here goes. Yanno? This stuff is harder to break down than it is to write. Just imagine 600+ pages of this.

"B. Squire elocution"

(b_squirrel, (Squire el(ocution), and his manner of expresion)

"eggrandized ho-hum tea and dumped tea."

(eggrandized - egg ref., mikes' increased knowledge of Joyce)

"ho-hum tea and dumped tea"

( Humpty, Dumpty(broken eggs), Tea(breakfast),tea for two,Ho-hum - dumped)

"Oh, lait lo! Bakin' aches to guessed oftener"

(Tea au lait(breakfast), (eggs) laid low (broken)(Lo!))
(bacon and eggs, painful thought process) (Guest of honor(the challenge), second guessing)

"Mourning d'oeuve chaud the whey."

(Morning egg, Mourning dove, hot eggs, cooked in butter)

"Wry totes and jam(bon?) twend."

(Rye toast, toast and jam, toast and ham, good ham, (bent, twisted accumulation)
twend-(to go, the end)

"Smilelacky, you half finnish?"

(foolin, around with Mikes' name and parentage, be happy - you're finished with the challenge?. Lacky, references Mikes obligation to the challenge)

Hope that this helps ya, the real challenge, is in the layers of meaning, language, intent. It goes on and on, deeper and deeper. Don't forget the auditory.

~Ed



[This message has been edited by wranx (10-13-2002 01:46 PM).]

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Thank you Ed...I DO have trouble sometimes...every now and then I just need someone to say LOOK...sigh...but thanks again, w'hugs.
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And to think, that Mikey wanted to visit this hell, upon his Lori.

Shame on you squirrel dude!  
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Ah, buttesea,
laurelleaves ...
swigsamonumentatumbril.
Pauperstyme.
Papersilee.
Herhuart.

[This message has been edited by bsquirrel (10-14-2002 03:03 PM).]

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By the way, Miss Blaise?   Here's a bit of a key for ya.

The thing I love about reading Finnegans Wake is everybody's interpretation is equally valid and invalid. The other wonderful thing is, by masking the words with the utmost clarity, you suddenly crack open language, and a thousand different ideas are possible ...

First of all, "Light breakfast" (the light breaks fast) is about death as much as breakfast.

Crack of milkface could be a skull.

Grashell -- grave?

Edgetomb, obvious.

"Scriptsure" Script on the grave? Scripture?

"Cendanterry" -- cemetary?

Amort, obviously death?

So see, that's the "Deeper values" of this poem, though I still leave it up to your imagination to figure out the meaning of the other words.

And, quite literal level (if that's even possible):

Turporcentil (two percentile? two person till? turpor??) crack of milkface (milk, or the color of the egg shell?)

grashell = granite shell. So cracked granite? Cracked shell? Or grape shell? Or gracious?

Pourl = you pour the milk, or the egg is a pearl? (or the poor are buried)?

Edgetomb atoll (mortality or ....
tomb atoll= tom-a-to)

countersuffence.

Sounds like suffering or providence ...or a counter's surface.

Lagcrawl the

Lagging crawl? Death? Or Ants crawling up a table leg?

scriptsure brinage

Sounds like scripture being drowned in salt, the sea? Death? Salt on egg?

spun siphson ... ant and

Spoon and ant?
Spun cipher?
Spoon spinning in bowl, with the sun rising its light over it?

cedanterry -- Soat,
amort err
swallit.

Cedars? Oats? Mouth? Swallow?
Cemetary? So? Death? Swallows or wallet?

Y' see, there's a million different ways to attack this poem.

Pretty cool, huh?

[This message has been edited by bsquirrel (10-14-2002 05:49 PM).]

 
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