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Sven
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0 posted 2001-12-04 10:37 PM


first, one through five here
then next, one through seven here
last, one through five here

5 5 5 5 5
7 7 7 &
5 5 5 5 5

five syllables here
then, seven syllables here
five syllables here

what, a syllable?
here is what syl-la-bles are
these are syl-la-bles

why do they call these
why do they call these haiku?
neither hai or ku

they are works of art
the world collapsed in three lines
zen in their spirit

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To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world.

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1 posted 2001-12-04 10:42 PM


hehehe...ummm a haiku is the same thing as a senryu right? I always thought they were the same.
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2 posted 2001-12-04 10:56 PM




(smiles) Oh John, this is soooooo clever, zen always fills the beauty of these poems! (sigh) I love writing senryus especially; you have taught us all so wonderfully in this review poem! (smiles) Sooooooo wonderful, I love it!!! (big hugggssssss) You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Sven, thank you for sharing!

May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

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3 posted 2001-12-04 11:49 PM


Yup...thats how to do them, alright but I've tried them, and they give me just as much of a headache as that monster thingy I was trying wrestle with earlier when posting tonight!   ..but if I might say so, you do them very well, Sir.  

Your storm of assumption feeds anger I am calm enough to hold inside. Don't pretend to know me if you've never put stretched out your heart with since

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4 posted 2001-12-04 11:53 PM


Sven, ya know I read N read these haikus posted in these forums and now I see in your poem how you put it2together (like a master naturally) and still I couldn't do one4the life of me so I guess I shall continue with my reading and maybe one day it'll come2me...
Terrific presentation by the way  
Hugs2uSweetie
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5 posted 2001-12-04 11:56 PM


It's good to see you
and to say Hi, coo of you
to share your know how

I love the senryu and haiku forms
     Less is more, more or less


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6 posted 2001-12-05 08:22 AM


Aack I just got more confused..LOL

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7 posted 2001-12-05 08:34 AM



RosePetal, Sven will get in here eventually, but a Haiku is a 5-7-5 poem based on nature...  Webster:  "a Japanese verse from, rendered in English as three unrhymed lines of 5, 7, and 5 syllables respectively,... often on some subject in nature"

While senryu are haiku-like verse, not necessarily about nature....


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8 posted 2001-12-05 08:50 AM


Sunshine beats me to it.  Well, those are the breaks...  

Sven, this was cute...    And I have the feeling a few people will learn from it.
~Allan

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9 posted 2001-12-05 09:02 AM


Sven,
Interesting and enjoyed

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10 posted 2001-12-05 02:21 PM


Beautiful!


Let thy moon arise.  William Blake

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11 posted 2001-12-05 02:30 PM


so that's the secret
I never knew that before
we gain knowledge here

Is that a Senryu?

wind blows mightily
leaves spin madly on axis
stoic tree stands still

Is that a Haiku?

Did I put the em-FAH-sis on the wrong syl-AH-ble?
                                        

Fantiastic piece, oh GR8 Voice of the Northland!

Fool, said my Muse to me, look in thy heart and write.

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12 posted 2001-12-05 02:55 PM


I'm still confused...or it could be my cold medicine!      LOL...Nancy

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13 posted 2001-12-05 03:33 PM


Interesting poem, i loved your explanation here.  Very nice!

     Randy Meador

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14 posted 2001-12-05 09:43 PM


hello everyone. . .  

thanks to Sunshine for the definitions. . . yes, a haiku is usually about nature, and a senryu is not about nature. . . that is, if you pay attention to such things. . . there's also a school of thought that says that one need not follow the 5-7-5 form, because the Japanese used to count sounds, and not syllables. . . but, that's for another day. . .

thanks. . .  

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15 posted 2001-12-05 10:41 PM


Love to read your work
Haikus are beautiful things.
Monkey butternuts.

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16 posted 2001-12-05 11:32 PM


That was cute. Unless, of course, it wasnt meant to be a poem. *Is very tired and needs everything explained to her* Thanks for sharing.
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17 posted 2001-12-05 11:42 PM


ya know, I kept reading senryus and wondered why I called them Haikus.  thanks for clearing that one up.....lmao.....and here I thought I was just being dumb!!

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18 posted 2001-12-05 11:49 PM


*giggling* well it is good to be clear on that one. Well said, sweet Sven. **hugs**

Love I leave with you whether it is in your life now or yet the essense of your dreams.

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19 posted 2001-12-06 01:19 AM


I've never been one to write haiku well. I've only done it once, and only because the teacher told me to   Then she made me rewrite it, because it was too "dark". *sighs* The follies of educators who mean well...

^_^ LadySofia

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20 posted 2001-12-07 08:51 AM


ohhhhhhhhhhhh now I know how to write a haiku.

something like this??

count about five here
then place seven words next line
five we do count here.


      think I can write haikus now........or was this a senryu........ok......ok.......I am confused now.......  

but I like your cute explanation Sven.......as always a splendid write  
Charisma


~*Theresia~*


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21 posted 2001-12-07 04:24 PM




Well...I have never tried that....
perhaps I should..what do you think?

A cute nice write.....

Thank you
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22 posted 2001-12-07 11:50 PM


thanks again to everyone. . . you're all wonderful people and poets. . .  

and, Enchanted Melody, I believe that a haiku from you would be something to see my friend. . .  

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23 posted 2001-12-08 09:18 PM



Indeed!     I luv it you clever thang you!    

Take care,
Melissa~

"Poetry is not an opinion expressed...
it is a song that rises from a bleeding
wound...or a smiling mouth"

~Kahlil Gibran~

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