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Interloper
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Deep in the heart

0 posted 2001-08-17 03:23 PM


Inspired by Sunshine's "The Vet."

~*~

In WWI we had the doughboys and songs like "Over There" were written about them. And they welcomed them home with hugs and kisses.

In WWII they wrote songs that were played by the "big bands" like Glenn Miller, Arte Shaw, The Dorsey Brothers, etc.  And they welcomed them home with hugs and kisses.

In the "Korean Conflict" the sentiments carried over from WWII.

Back from Grenada came our boys and they welcomed them home with hugs and kisses.

Back from Desert Storm came our boys and girls And they welcomed them home with hugs and kisses.

The missing "war?"  When we came back from Vietnam we were called "baby killers" and our own people spat upon us and our uniforms.  I have heard some of my friends say that it was good that "so and so" didn't make it back 'cuz he can't be treated like a felonious leper.

~*~

we were trained soldiers
we loved our country and flag
we obeyed orders

not many liked war
dirt, filth, and fear aren't much fun
death is real, final

some were teenagers
most were men in their twenties
they all cared deeply

it was so easy
run to Canada to hide
avoiding the draft

we chose not to run
certainly not from the draft
nor from armed conflict

it really takes guts
not to run from rifle fire
to face destiny

what we did not know
we were forsaken at home
unwanted killers

unwanted soldiers
not recognized for too long
nightmares persisted

wrapped in our brave flag
our hearts withstood the assault
let no one else in

you can't understand
our pain and thoughts are all ours
nightmares have faded

we don't understand
and I guess we never will
we accept our fate

© Copyright 2001 The Tall Texan aka Doctor Love - All Rights Reserved
Lady In White
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1 posted 2001-08-17 05:01 PM



Many now understand...it is those who were left on this side, not being able to get through the muddle of the media, watching the numbers rise, who somehow didn't grasp everything that was going on, until it was much too late.  Somehow, the young men knew, but for the most part they went anyway...

You understood.  The Vets came back understanding they did as ordered, then the government never acknowledged their actions, much like Korea being the "police action" and not a war...

well done Sir.

[This message has been edited by Lady In White (edited 08-17-2001).]

JamesMichael
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2 posted 2001-08-18 06:32 AM


Great expression of a veterans experiences...James
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3 posted 2001-08-20 12:18 PM


We will never know, but we can try.
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4 posted 2001-08-20 12:22 PM


thank you for this, it does help, even penning a lack of understanding is a path towards it for the writer and the reader....hugs
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5 posted 2001-08-20 12:46 PM


it seems that only recently with all the movies and specials and pbs, are many learning how impossible it was to fight a war that was being fought at home too. I am from that period of time, yet I always felt for the soldiers there. Yes, there were demonstrations and many who went to Canada, and others who were able to stay in college to avoid the draft.

I don't think anyone was against the men who were there...I believe they were against a government that allowed a death sentence... so many to be killed needlessly...not giving them the tools to do the job right..whatever they determined "right" to be.
Maybe I am wrong...but I also believe that the downfall of my marriage and many others later in life has a lot to do with my husband reflecting on all he went through  and his now wanting to have "fun" for the rest of his life with no accountability or responsibilties towards what would be considered the normal life.  His alcoholism that has affected us also and not just him, but many others his age in this community, I believe started by the drinking in VN. I reread his letters to me a week ago, while going through my life and ...and for some reason,  drinking came to me in every one...something I never noticed before...anyway..I always  enjoy your thoughtful writings...and I am sorry if I am venting a bit on a personal note...
Interloper, sometimes we are just too blind to see...sighing

~Wynter/Maureen

"The worst prison would be a closed heart".
...Pope John Paul II



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6 posted 2001-08-20 01:23 PM


Well done Sir. . . a very well written poem. . . but, you know. . . I can only wonder where we would be right now. . . if they hadn't went. . .

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7 posted 2001-08-20 02:17 PM


Lady ~
I can only speak for myself.  I left the USA a proud member of the US Army.  I returned a tired, proud member of the US Army that people abhored.  I only wore my uniform twice in public ... both time it caused confrontations that I would have preferred to have avoided.

James ~
Thank you.  Not an easy write.

BrightStar ~
Thank you for trying. I cannot understand another Vet's feelings anymore thanhe can understand mine ... it's just that we got them in the same place and broght them back to the same place.

Jellybeans ~
Thank you for understanding that I don't understand ... yet I, also, try to understand.

Nakdthoughts ~
I always love to hear from you and I appreciate your "venting" if that is what my work caused you to do  

Sven ~
Had we not gone?  Wow, I don't even want to think of that one!  I never thought of that ... Would my friends still be alive?  Would I have grown up in a different manner (I saw combat at age 18 1/2)?
An appreciated reply from the GR8 Voice of the Northland

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