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Ginners
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since 2000-07-22
Posts 339
Mullica Hill, New Jersey

0 posted 2001-07-12 08:22 PM


So few really understand what it is really like,
To come apart and lose control,
It is impossible to really know,
How hard it can get for some people,

They have their families,
I didn't,
They have their friends,
I didn't,
They have their lovers,
I didn't,
They have themselves,
I didn't,

They have the things they love,
I didn't even know what they were,
They have their reflection to talk to,
I didn't want to look at the scars and sunken eyes,
They have their homes,
I didn't know what one was,
They had their chances,
I didn't ever get one,

They have their memories,
I only remembered the things i wanted to forget,
They have tomorrow or next week,
I only had more of what today and yesterday was,
They have their dreams,
I only had an addiction,
They have their sleep and their beds,
I only had drug induced insomnia,


So many people say it is the easy way out,
But those people don't know what it is really like,
They have always had someone or something,
Even just themselves,

I never had any body,
Except the different versions of myself,
Which ever one wanted control that day,
They don't know what it is like to be that lost,

So what gives them the right?
The right to think they understand,
To think there are other choices,
They just dont know what it can be like,

Can they picture this life?
Can they say they made it through this?
Can they say they came so close so many times?
Then what gives them the right?

  ~No one has the right to judge someone else, not unless they have lived a lifetime in their heads~  

"I'll build a wall if we can keep them on the other side"-NIN
"There is no always forever"-The Cure
"Even the losers get lucky some times"-Tom Petty

[This message has been edited by Ginners (edited 07-12-2001).]

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Ginners
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since 2000-07-22
Posts 339
Mullica Hill, New Jersey
1 posted 2001-07-12 08:27 PM


I lived this life and you cant  know how bad it is and i will never be able to explain it all esp. not on  passions.  The point is dont you dare judge some one or their choices unless you know how bad it is for them.  And dont you ever call someone weak for choosing something you would cuz if  you would say that then you have no ****ing idea what you are talking about and how dare you.  and yeah so maybe they will lock my entry because what you can read between the lines, but just because something isnt the answer or it isnt what you would do sometimes it is the only choice.  and yeah i made it trough but not before trying to get out early.  and i do not regret it because the outcome is the same either way to me.  i was just going to make the end sooner.  it isnt an answer, but unless you have been there you dont know so dont judge!        

"I'll build a wall if we can keep them on the other side"-NIN
"There is no always forever"-The Cure
"Even the losers get lucky some times"-Tom Petty

[This message has been edited by Ginners (edited 07-12-2001).]

Dark Kisses
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since 2001-06-24
Posts 364
Flat lands of Kansas
2 posted 2001-07-13 12:49 PM


Hmmmmmm     Yes, you are correct, no one can judge you until they have walked in your shoes.  But as most of us, one size doesnt always fit all.  Some people cant ever walk in your shoes for the fact their lives are nothing even similar to yours.  I understand you being upset, but as you said no one can understand what you have been through.  I too have *tried* and as you can read , here I am    But I tried for different reasons than you.  As I said, one size doesnt always fit all.  I do not regret my efforts, because at that time, life was unbearable for me.  The pain from life and the awful blows from my husband were too much to handle.  I pay to this day for my judgements on trying to find some sort of happiness.   I too live in the world of darkness and loneliness but I work daily on trying to overcome them.  
Take a deep breathe, we are here and we will try to understand your pain.  You arent alone in the Dark Night either.  We sit here, sharing the darkness together.

Smile  
  Mags

Don't fear your tears!

carolinadreams
Member
since 2000-07-20
Posts 142

3 posted 2001-07-13 03:55 AM


What brews may cook
but nevertheless it was a chance
a chance
we took


K2001
Junior Member
since 2001-01-19
Posts 31
Near manchester in England
4 posted 2001-07-13 09:11 AM


maybe your right, no one can truely understand you unless they themselves have experienced the same or similar traumas as ourselves but that doesnt mean that they dont want to, sometimes its hard to understand why a person acts or reacts as they do. Until a year ago i thought that no body would ever beable to even imagine what id experienced in my life but one day i realised i had to stop searching for someone who had been there and asettle for someone who could listen to me, hug me and tell me theyll be there even if they dont always understand my actions. You have to give people a chance, more than we imagine people really are not judging us they are just scared for us and it comes out wrongly. I wish you so much luck, if you ever wanna chat, my email is k.hilton@ukonline.co.uk. Take care xxxx

"Keep the faith"-Jon Bon Jovi

qtpieelmo
Senior Member
since 2000-07-04
Posts 989
Sesame Street :) hee hee ,NY
5 posted 2001-07-13 09:43 AM


well obviously none of us really know what suicide is really like because we r all still here (thank god) but i've been so close many times & in my opinion it is the easy way out because if u kill yourself then all your problems r solved boom just like that instead of stuggling to make it really better-this is just my view, but if u think differently then u can explain your ideas to me because i am open & want to hear other views on this--I am not judging anyone--i'm judging myself & just stating OPINIONS, not facts--I've been through the addiction, the abuse, the lonliness, & been hospitalized for trying to kill myself many times--i dont know your whole story & i would never begin to judge u but i know mine & i know that everyone always a a choice (to make it better, or to give up) I have been to the darkest side in my eyes & I am trying to make it better--I'm in college now & struggling to be somebody--I lost all my close friends & i just lost the greatest guy i ever had--so u r the one judging, u r the one throwing in your opinions as facts & stomping on my opinions, so take a step back & realize that your way isn't the only way & that i was offended by this & i never meant to cause this it was only my view--LOVE ELMO <3
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