navwin » Archives » Teen Poetry #4 » The Darker Side of Theism and Atheism
Teen Poetry #4
Post A Reply Post New Topic The Darker Side of Theism and Atheism Go to Previous / Newer Topic Back to Topic List Go to Next / Older Topic
fractal007
Senior Member
since 2000-06-01
Posts 1958


0 posted 2001-05-10 05:04 AM


This poem goes out to any of the more aggressive theists and atheists out there.  The message is:  LIGHTEN UP!!!  There's going to be a million people in this world who will agree with your world view and a million who won't.  It's no fun facing that but that's life.  Sure, open mindedness is good.  In fact, that's what I find myself trying to promote often with Christians, but trying to backseat drive someone else's life???  That's a little dumb.  So, here is a little humour.  You might recognize exerpts from some worship songs, rewritten here to fit some mentalities.  





I am theist hear me roar!
We need a reformation
to the constitution,
and a declaration
against the prostitution
of this great nation!

You can FEEL the vibes of dupes
In this place
You can SEE the loss of mind
in our face
Just look at our lives!

My banner over you,
My banner over me,
My banner over us
Is greed, greed, greed!


I am atheist hear me roar!
You've no proof for your dumb claims,
I've no need to be insane.
Clear your minds and free yourselves,
Take up your blade* and shave your life!
Grab your children, grab your wife!
God is fake and so's your life.

We've yet to tell you what to do,
So please convert and lose your faith,
And then we'll try and find some clue
To solve the problem we now face.
A pattern for your thoughts - for you,
Replac'd anew by our own thoughts
A pattern for your thoughts - for you!



*  This refers to Occam's razor, a philosophy that dictates that in any complex system, the simplest theory describing that system is often the most accurate.  So, in this context, the line argues that one must take up Occam's razor and remove all metaphysical elements of one's life.  It also plays on Christ's words "take up your cross and follow me."

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh"

-- Magus

© Copyright 2001 fractal007 - All Rights Reserved
Allan Riverwood
Deputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Elite
since 2001-01-04
Posts 3502
Winnipeg
1 posted 2001-05-10 09:54 AM


Thanks for the explanation at the end.  
I have to admit this poem was well-written and creative as you put it together, read through well and was quite good, but at the same time it did offend me.
Still I have to say that you did a great job on this poem.  Quite controversial.  
~Allan

Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day.  Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.  
~Unknown

Poet on Acid
Member
since 2001-01-07
Posts 325
Florida, USA
2 posted 2001-05-10 10:34 AM


Wow, you chose religion as a topic...bold move man. But from what I gathered from the poem, most of it is true. I can see how some could view it as offensive, I'm not one of those people of course because I tend to have the same humourus attitude towards religion in general. Great work man. I sure hope no ones gives you an attitude about this because it's quite good.

"It's too cold in the world...too cold to be alone..." - >¶Øʆ<

anonymousfemale
Member Elite
since 2000-02-02
Posts 2797
Limbo
3 posted 2001-05-10 11:43 AM


Well I am going to be the first person to give you attitude on this, Frac. Who do you think you are?! haha...jk of course!  

This one hit a really good spot with me. Maybe it was the original song playing in my headphones that had something to do with it, but who knows?

Way to go on such a brilliant piece! It's definitely library material.  

~AF~

Stupidity killed the cat. Curiosity was framed.
~ Unknown ~

fractal007
Senior Member
since 2000-06-01
Posts 1958

4 posted 2001-05-10 01:54 PM


Thankyou for the replies and critiques.  I apologize if I've offended anyone here.  Especially you, Allan.  You know my Christian take on the subject.  

This poem was intended as a satire of the extremism in the two world views.  Namely the crusade for Christ against the crusade for "Freethought."  Both sides think that the other needs to be saved from something, and so they use militant attacks, putting each other down.  This isn't constructive.

The theist side[darker side] often uses Christ and the idea of salvation from death and the love of God to extort people out of their money or their freedom to think for themselves.

This poem was not intended to attack one view more than another.  Rather, it was intended to attack the darker sides of both views.

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh"

-- Magus

Tangerines
Junior Member
since 2001-05-07
Posts 22
Richmond, Virginia
5 posted 2001-05-10 03:00 PM


This is good. Powerful. I liked how the stanzas alternated between the two factions - maybe add a final stanza to bring it all together? Good job.  

"I don't judge people, I just watch them till it's time to look away. I wanna look away now." - Kristin Hersh

Lakewalker
Member Elite
since 2000-08-05
Posts 3289
On the streets w/ people
6 posted 2001-05-10 07:12 PM


Good job on the poem, and I like how you've taken care in explaining it.  It seems like I've read this somewhere here before, did you post it in Philosophy or something?  

"Be kind for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle" Plato.

Heavens Tears
Deputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Senior Member
since 2001-03-15
Posts 677

7 posted 2001-05-10 07:20 PM


Very interesting topic, but you are so right.  We shouldnt make anyone feel bad because of their beliefs.  Great use of humor, instead of making it all serious!

*~*Amanda*~*

My tears roll right down my cheeks, but they all soak into my pillow.  I feel kinda sorry for it...

Dopey Dope
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Moderator
Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132
San Juan, Puerto Rico
8 posted 2001-05-15 03:14 PM


I found this to be more enlightened than humurous. Yet it is a satire, and a very well written one at that.
I completely loved this because regardless of what you personally believe, the main point here is to be open minded. I think that we should live and let live.
Sounds simple, but I guess it's too complex for some people, eh?

Nicely done frac. One of my favs from you!

I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust.

I'm in love with my shadow
I admire it daily

Post A Reply Post New Topic ⇧ top of page ⇧ Go to Previous / Newer Topic Back to Topic List Go to Next / Older Topic
All times are ET (US). All dates are in Year-Month-Day format.
navwin » Archives » Teen Poetry #4 » The Darker Side of Theism and Atheism

Passions in Poetry | pipTalk Home Page | Main Poetry Forums | 100 Best Poems

How to Join | Member's Area / Help | Private Library | Search | Contact Us | Login
Discussion | Tech Talk | Archives | Sanctuary