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Dopey Dope
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0 posted 2001-03-18 12:57 PM


NOTE: Symbolism- yes.....deep- yes......do I like it?- no way!

Aware of All:


Sour Blasphemy set a drift.
Mind control giggles and laughs.
Umbrella tree soul to lift.
Avoid becoming part of mass.

Setting off the final on.
Your nothing is my all.
A criss-crossed shattered son
Commencing his first fall.

Double framed mysteries.
The meat hooks of powers wrath.
Eternal light the boy will see
In finding final path.

Shedding leafs on nature ground.
A smile to be simply kind.
Always turn back around.
Beware what mind can find.



I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust.

I'm in love with my shadow
I admire it daily

© Copyright 2001 Pepe de la Muerte - All Rights Reserved
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1 posted 2001-03-18 01:21 PM


Symbolism- NICE!
Didn't like it?- well I did, to be honest. I envy your ability to be vague about the simplest things... but the symbolism was all absorbed on my end still.
Great job, Javier. I am truly impressed.
~Allan

If I had your eyes, I'd be blind. For I can only see out of my own. ~~Carly Van Dort


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2 posted 2001-03-18 04:39 PM


Well I made up my own interpretations of yer symbolism, cuz I know fer shure that I was wayyy off. This was weawy weawy koo. Yes yes. Yes, it was. Yep.
~Carly

"The eye sees a thing more clearly in dreams than the imagination awake."
- Leonardo da Vinci

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3 posted 2001-03-18 04:57 PM


WHOOOOOOOOOOSH.... that's what your poem did. it went whoooooosh right OVER MY HEAD. lol i'm a blonde yes, did i get the poem-no, but do i like it anyway-yes cuz you wrote it and you don't write crap *L* just keep in mind for those who are blonde, once in a while stick with roses are red... i like them ones i understand them very well HEHEHE but good job!

*Life can take your dreams and turn them upside down, Friends will talk about you when you're not around, but don't ever lose that light in your eyes*

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4 posted 2001-03-18 04:59 PM


YUP...Right over my head too !!!
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5 posted 2001-03-18 09:56 PM


It went so far over my head I'm not sure if it did. These are biblical allusions no? Good job.

"The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But I have promises to keep
And miles to go before I sleep
And miles to go before I sleep"
-Robert Frost

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6 posted 2001-03-18 10:14 PM


Beware also the truth
in which the mind already knows..

Deep~ oh yeah!
Did I like it~ Very much!


~*Peachy Be*~

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7 posted 2001-03-19 10:13 AM


Dopey, Liked this one alot. It had some symbolism that did go over my head but for the most part I got an excellent interpretation of this poem. Another great one!
Jon

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8 posted 2001-03-19 10:26 AM


Although the poem sounded great, I'll be honest, I didn't understand it. Great job, though!!

--Marie

I never thought that you would ever be the one to let me down. I guess that just goes to show how wrong I always am.

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9 posted 2001-03-19 10:51 AM


Totally amazing Dopes!
Your symbolism was simply devine.
The last stanza hit home hard.
Oh and another thing, stop saying you don't like your work!! There is nothing more frustrating when a great poet writes an even greater piece and says that they don't like it.

This piece just goes beyond words and you should be very proud of it.

~AF~

"It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory."
-W. Edwards Deming

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10 posted 2001-03-24 02:16 AM


ok Dopey, I need some help
thanks

"So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S.

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11 posted 2001-03-25 02:03 PM


Before I explain I NEED to know more people want to know about it cuz i don't wanna explain with a HUGE relpy and have NOBODY read it.


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12 posted 2001-03-28 12:50 PM


I liked this...but, please do fill us in.  Here's my take on it:

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Sour Blasphemy set a drift.
Mind control giggles and laughs.
Umbrella tree soul to lift.
Avoid becoming part of mass.

(Breaking out of the norm...being unconventionl [border line blasphemous], holding back your laughter at peoples' reactions...rising to another level [of consciousness?])

Setting off the final on.
Your nothing is my all.
A criss-crossed shattered son
Commencing his first fall.

(Doing/thinking the opposite of what the social norm believes in [off is on, nothing is all, it's crisscrossed...you see]...likening to the fall of Man [biblical....i.e., original sin]

Double framed mysteries.
The meat hooks of powers wrath.
Eternal light the boy will see
In finding final path.

(Conspiracy from the powers that be [THEY don't like non-conformity]...possible death for the enlightend boy [physical death...could mean psychological...economic...social...not sure)

Shedding leafs on nature ground.
A smile to be simply kind.
Always turn back around.
Beware what mind can find.

(I think this implies cunning...things are not as they appear...deception [those who break the social rules need to be careful of consequences and appearences])

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...Anyway...not sure if this is what you were thinking, but that is what I took away from it.  Enjoyable and thought provoking read!

Jellybean King

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13 posted 2001-03-28 02:19 PM


WAY TO G0!!!!!!!!! Javier, you are soooooooooooooooooooooo soooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooooooooooo AWESOME and I know that you know it!!!!!!!!!! I envy you sooooooooooooooooooo much right now.  I'm writing poems, but the minute I write them, the paper seems to dissappear.  Well, ya know I love ya!!!!!!!!!! ANd you know you're awesome!! Hugs!! I'm proud of you.  PS> why don't you like this?

I wish people would stop telling me that I can do anything I want to. I never thought that I couldn't.

Life is what happens when you're making ot

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14 posted 2001-04-01 12:35 PM


JellyBean King, Wow....you amaze me with your interpretation of my poem. I appreciate your in depth peek into my work. Here's what I meant when I wrote it (do keep in mind that I write with a lot of open ends to let the reader's mind wander. I feel that works well within a poem):

This whole poem has a lot of duality within it. It basically shows the dual form of the human mind to think one thing yet do another.

Sour Blasphemy set a drift.= Blasphemy is defined a: A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity...I'm using Sour to describe the blasphemy and saying that it's being set free within the world, the mind, and so on.

Mind control giggles and laughs.= I'm using the laughs and giggles as a symbolism of happiness and they seem to be controlled by a mind here, yet it's not the mind of the person who's feeling this supposed happiness.

Umbrella tree soul to lift.= Umbrella ends are face down.....you take them out when it rains.....trees are a part of nature....so I'm using these two as symboles of Gloomy nature. I'm saying that we need to lift up the soul of this Umbrella tree.

Avoid becoming part of mass.= I feel this is pretty explanatory. Avoid becoming part of the masses.


Setting off the final on.= here you turning off the last on that you have. Meaning the last good thing within your individual mind has turned off. This line is one of the dual things I was talkin about.

Your nothing is my all.= Here I say how somebody's nothing can be somebody's all. That we must appreciate it. Regardless of how many On's you've turned off....even though you might have that nothingness ....it's still something. In this case it's negative and the perspective that the "nothing is my all" is said in is by a person who wants the character to feel nothingness within his soul and conform.

A criss-crossed shattered son= Bible reference to Jesus.

Commencing his first fall.= He starts his first fall. Meaning he died for the masses protection, but hey.....for some of us his saving us didn't do much of anything.

Double framed mysteries.= This symbolizes the complexity of the situation. How it's a problem within a problem.

The meat hooks of powers wrath.= The meat hooks of power sink into our skin and pull us to where it'd like to take us.

Eternal light the boy will see= Going back to Jesus, but this is mainly referring to anybody. The eternal light symbolizes truth.

In finding final path.= final path is enlightenment towards how to live your life a healthy, individual way.

Shedding leafs on nature ground.= Leafs are a part of nature and it's a common analogy I use that ties with truth, good, and the orignal simplistic greatness of this world. Here they are shedding, and dying.

A smile to be simply kind.= This is showing a bit of hypocrisy.

Always turn back around.= Here I'm saying to always watch yer back.

Beware what mind can find.= This just states to beware what yer mind can find. This refers to the truth that can, at times, scare the hell out of you because it conflicts with so many of your original beliefs that you could go crazy trying to figure out which belief is real.

All in All this poem is about staying away from the power of mass influence and staying true to nature, God, and self.

Hope you read all this crap haha..bye

I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust.

I'm in love with my shadow
I admire it daily

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15 posted 2001-04-07 03:01 PM


I did read this after you replied here, but since you whined in Teen Explorer (which everyone should visit), I guess I'll bump it up so others can read you explaination

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle"  
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16 posted 2001-04-07 03:56 PM


Glad you got my hint lake  
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17 posted 2001-04-07 03:57 PM


i had to read it couple of times but i really enjoyed this one i liked it...its one of them poems that makes u think  
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18 posted 2001-04-07 04:01 PM


Awesome work Javier! at first it went over my head...then i got most of it. your explanation helped.
amazing!
Regi

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19 posted 2001-04-08 10:47 AM


Hey,

  Guess who's head it also when over on the first read   well I liked it anyway   keep it up. until your next masterpeice

               -- Linc

"Once you reach your original goal it seems that the journey was your real accomplishment."

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20 posted 2001-04-08 03:32 PM


Thanks all.....you're very kind.
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21 posted 2001-04-08 04:47 PM


  Oh wow! Great explanation! My thoughts esactly! Or not! But oh well! Great poem! I already replied! But now I'm replying to the explanation! So yeah! You're cool! Peace!
  ~Carly!

NOTE TO SELF: Live to love and love to live.

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