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onceuponatime
Junior Member
since 2000-10-13
Posts 13
east coast

0 posted 2000-10-14 07:19 AM




A Poetic Story for ALL to take Notice Of

Onceuponatime I was Moonchild,
a poetess, though struggling with word.
Expressing her daily emotions,
in a silence, not always heard.

Had visited several blue cities
contentment, not always to find.
Carried with friendships my thoughts
always their warmth shared my mind.

Invited one day by an Alan
in an e-mail, so sweet so it seemed.
I traveled the distance to visit.
What I saw lit my moonchild, she beamed.

Like the night at this moment, I'm viewing
the moon in it's fullness had shone
a bursting of energy, ray-like
a wonderful feeling had grown.

Began I, to post several poems,
saw friends from a past I once knew.
Marge, and her words, so inspiring
Ethan, a poet so true.

Loved all the caring at passions,
went back and spread the news.
Invited more talented poets and friends
to join me, come enter, share, too.

For a selfish poet, I'm never.
Self-centered, I will never become.
I share all my kindness with others
And never will  ever succumb...

To the crudeness of some who are needy
and take out their frustrations on me.
I am strong on this day in particular
I can thank that Athena, yes she.

I am told that I should be responding
in a way that will make her glad.
A group reply to my new friends,
otherwise reprimanded as "bad".

I am writing this because she's shown me
that to an email, she cannot reply.
Instead she wants to control me,
telling me what to do and why.

Go look up her poems all 4 of them.
One is a statement of "zip"
confused on that day were her words
I think she's lost "realities" grip.

I noticed another  poem..
I guess she  had nothing to write.
So she listed the moderators and others
Hoping for responses to alight.

Well she got them, as do all the others
who write to each other on here.
I am sorry to say I don't do that,
as ideas never cease to appear.

Well I guess I have vented my anger
And I won't be surprised if deleted.
these words I have posted before leaving
are the last now I am emptied, depleted.


****I thank all of you who have been my comfort
and source of inspiration to keep me writing
and worrying less about my personal troubles
..but I have taken enough abuse at home
and don't plan on needing any more from here....

Maureen/Moonchild
and for one day....
onceuponatime

**to all:
Sorry I took up so much space on here**

< !signature-->

"In our life there is a single color, as on an artist`s palette,
which provides the meaning of life and art.
It is the color of love."
M Chagrall




[This message has been edited by onceuponatime (edited 10-14-2000).]

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The Lonely Stranger
Member
since 1999-06-18
Posts 361
Upstate, NY, USA
1 posted 2000-10-14 08:43 AM


I think my signiture is applicable here, I see poetd living in a peacefull board and I ask ....... 'why not !!??'

Life is too short people trust me, being alone and without friends or comanions is no way to spend it.

TLS

Athena, Goddess of Wisdom
Junior Member
since 1999-11-21
Posts 27

2 posted 2000-10-14 08:51 AM


Maureen, I apologize for offending you in any way. That was not my intention. If you notice the first post to your other poem, I not only complimented the poem, but evaluated it, giving feedback the importance of the topic and the merit of the work. I also made a KIND suggestion regarding responding to each poet individually since I thought you were new to the forums and didn't know the software pushes the poem up top with each response. Yes, my second comment to your poem was out of line and overbearing but I felt like you totally dismissed me by not even saying a thing in response to my previous comment. I am no Goddess, obviously. I am human and I make mistakes and I apologize again, which makes three times this morning. If you have sent me email, I haven't read it yet because I just woke up. If you notice, my last comment to you on the other thread was after  1AM and I have been asleep since then. I will check my email and respond to your mail, if you have mailed me, as well.

I do not really think it's very kind of you to lash back at me by looking up my poetry and belittling it. I, too, have had enough abuse in my life and the topics I've written about in poetry were important to me. I'm not that great of a writer, but I try.

Again, for the fourth or fifth time, I apologize for the unGoddesslike manner I presented my plea to you.

I have seen the name "moonchild" before and I know you aren't a new member. Therefore, you must see that others don't just make a blanket thank you and put people on a list. That wasn't what I meant. With one response, you can thank all who have already responded to your poem INDIVIDUALLY, with individual, personlized comments. It is possible.

My eyes are all mythty. You have brought tears to them.

Elizabeth Santos
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-11-08
Posts 9269
Pennsylvania
3 posted 2000-10-14 08:57 AM


I read this but don't know how to respond, except to say that poetry is in you speak what's in your heart, which may be hurt more than anger.Poetry is a way to empty sorrow from within. And it also opens the avenues to love and friendship.
Take care
Liz

Marge Tindal
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384
Florida's Foreverly Shores
4 posted 2000-10-14 09:45 AM


Maureen/MoonChild/OnceUponATime~
My friend ... you have too much poetry in
you to not let it be shared here with friends
who love you and what you have to say.

I would ask you to not judge the book
by the actions of someone who you obviously
feel has hurt your feelings.

I have not known you to be thoughtless or careless
in your responses to anyone.
This is an interactive board of poets who
enjoy one another's company.

The option to respond individually to each
reply is just that ... an option ...
some exercise it more frequently than others
and some don't.
Either way works for me and personally,
I don't care if the process continually bumps the poem up or not ...

I am truly sorry that you experienced anything that
made you uncomfortable here.

I have known you to be a poet with thoughts to be shared ...
I hope you will accept the apology given to you
and stay here with us.

If that isn't possible for you ...
then go in peace with love from this heart.

*There are moderators here who can
always help with any given situation.
I never hestitate to refer any problem to them
and their responses have usually been swift
and right on the mark.

Maureen ... take care and know that my
prayers are with you always.
Love ya'
~*Marge*~


~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
noles1@totcon.com

Athena, Goddess of Wisdom
Junior Member
since 1999-11-21
Posts 27

5 posted 2000-10-14 09:50 AM


Thank you, Marge, and I, too sincerely hope the apology is accepted. I feel terrible about this and never intended to hurt any feelings. My words were not appropriate to these forums and if I could delete them to make this better, I would. Deleting them would only make this thread make no sense, so I won't do that, however.

And yet another apology..... I need to stop because I'm starting to embarrass myself.

MMoonchild
Senior Member
since 2000-07-13
Posts 1715
PA
6 posted 2000-10-14 09:56 AM


to lonely stranger and liz I thank you for reading and commenting...

to Athena...I sent you an email..it was sent I am sure before your second reply...no matter what you think your condescending manner to me..yes both were... demanded a response in private which I did the first time..it was your second response which infuriated me..and I have as much right to critique your work as you do to insult my intelligence for all to see....I don't accept your apology as it was not done in sincerity as you have had to add your excuses to it...which to me are unacceptable...and that is what the problem with this world is today..always an excuse for  what you do instead of just taking the rightful blame...you should have minded your own business...you are not a moderator nor an expert in anything on here...nor do you have a right to tell me what to do, to write or how to respond to my friends on here. Yes I went and checked on your poems ... why shouldn't I?I wanted to see what your problem was with me. I told you in the email not to start with me...as I have had anon problems and attacks of jealousy before..and know how to defend myself ..I am  51 years old..I will admit it because I am proud of my age...I was an early childhood/elementary teacher and have had my own nursery school and  craft business and helped run my husbands ...I do not have to defend my ways of responding to anyone..and I may be sounding a bit vindictive to ohers and for that I am sorry but I spent a good portion of my sleep time  checking others posts and wondered why did you pick on me..when I can name at least  another new  poet and a many others who responded  the same way I did...I am just wondering what gave you the right to single me out ..you could have posted a notice or an announcement or a link or used your own posting to say what you wanted elsewhere or even here...you trespassed on me..and my words and have made me feel worse than I did when  expressing my innermost  feelings..you telling me or anyone here that you are tearful   says  nothing..to me words are words and I want yours to stay away from mine...and I apologize for others who may be resding this but Athena doesnt seem to get the point that she could have expressed this all in emails or to the moderators and I need no one telling me what kind of a poet I am  or if I am or am not talented I have enough pride in my own work to know  what I am capable of...


I am amending this as I see you found it necessary to respond once again hoping for forgiveness and sympathy....you will not get it from me....again it is a way  for you to finally get some attention and like a child who can't  get it while doing something good and behaving or writing your own poetry you will try getting it by  
using negativity and sympathy with your many "humble" apologies...who ever is in charge of this forum I  ask that you lock this up  please as I have had enough and have said my piece and now would like the other peace.

[This message has been edited by MMoonchild (edited 10-14-2000).]

Athena, Goddess of Wisdom
Junior Member
since 1999-11-21
Posts 27

7 posted 2000-10-14 10:19 AM


If you don't accept my apology, that's your preogative. If you don't accept that I, too, am human and have feelings and that your words have hurt me, than that's your preogative. Why did I single you out? I didn't. I just happened to click on your poem. I am probably one of the most sincere human beings you will ever encounter. When I make a mistake, I admit it and apologize straight from my heart. As I did in this case. So, I'm human. I am no Goddess. I am not jealous of you, I am not stalking you, I am not sending anonymous messages to you. It is certainly up to you if you want to judge my character but to blatantly blast me on a public forum in response to a sincere apology is rude. There's a book called "All I Ever Needed to Know, I Learned in Kindergarden". In that book, the author talks about sharing, taking Time Out when you are angry, and being nice to each other. Which includes if a person makes a mistake and sincerely apologizes for it, forgiving them. I'm not going to apologize again. I've already done that over and over and over and over and I'm getting embarrassed. Life isn't easy. People screw up. I'm sorry. Well, I guess I said it again.  Peace and Love.

And to repeat myself, when you sent e-mail to me, I was asleep. I don't answer answer e-mail while I'm sleeping.

The Lonely Stranger
Member
since 1999-06-18
Posts 361
Upstate, NY, USA
8 posted 2000-10-14 11:37 AM


Forgive my typically Logical male mind but can't there be co-existance with the mutual agreement to refrain from commenting in one another's threads? Not a kind comment that could be cunstrued by the recipient as an attempt to gain favor with the board, not a mean comment that would be obviously hurtful. Just a plain, simple, peaceful mutual communications embargo. That way we don't lose the works of either of our friends.

Call me a logical, cockeyed compromiser.

TLS

Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669
Michigan, US
9 posted 2000-10-14 11:43 AM


The only "rule" I have ever asked anyone to observe in these forum is Respect & Tolerance. All of our guidelines, few though they are, are derivatives of that single rule.

Respect & Tolerance does not mean "when everyone is doing things the way I like them." It means all the time, even when disagreements arise. Because they WILL arise.

Athena made a simple suggestion, which was fine. When she felt the suggestion was being ignored, she crossed the line and turned her suggestion into a demand - which was not fine and Chris explained why it wasn't fine. That should have ended the exchange. Instead, Maureen, you apparently decided that since you felt you had been attacked that opened the door for a counter-attack. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't work that way in here. Respect and tolerance are easy when everyone is getting along. But they're only important when disagreements arise.

There are obviously undercurrents here that have little to do with what's been said. If there are problems within the forums - or because of the forums - I would like to hear about them. My email box is always open, and I and the Moderators will do anything possible and reasonable to resolve unfair issues. But we can't even approach a problem if people don't tell us about it. And when those undercurrents surface as personal attacks, warranted or otherwise, we're forced to instead deal with the symptoms. I would very much hate to treat the symptoms too harshly because I don't know the underlying causes.

I hope no one puts in the position where that becomes necessary.

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