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Elizabeth Cor
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Over the river and through the woods

0 posted 2000-10-14 01:58 AM


Divider of the enchanted forest,
wakes the lilies to brilliance with these same hands:
stubby, spoiled, toilet grime around the nails,
scar from a wart frozen off.
I kneaded love into your back when we were
still drinking sweetness off each other
Angry, and stuffed with young excuses
I drove out your possibility
And I am frightened of the great disease: that you know symptom and cure
If I could hush the dragons in my head, I would
And I might cheat my fear and demand you back, if I could
But maybe my madness has finally exhausted you to the core
And there were promises that I ravaged,
And there is grief I can’t outgrow
And I’m sorry that I broke your ideals instead of your heart
So I loved you for your brilliance, your charm, the cryptic temper you insisted upon
(and swore that only I could crawl beneath)
And now, for those same reasons, I am taken with envy full to the point of hate

My dreams remember your voice...
damn blatant perfection.
I drop one eye open to diamonds:
tears stunted on my eyelashes with the snap of wake-fall.
I flex legs against the sweat in my sheets
nonnoticing swirls in my ears of the push pull of my lungs
and the empty shout of dust slanted over the sunlight.
I am the living contradiction, the idiot concave.
Oh, god, Pete.
Sharp recall and the
dull, hard punches at my chest.

I have tried
to accept, perhaps, your disassociation of me.
Hating that I am not the victim but the nonwant.
I have hated dreams where I am sheltered in the bliss of your conversation,
snapping forward in the wake-fall to find my fist on the ghost of your hand.
I have found, we are, you are, the effigy of indescription.
You are not the push and pull of my lungs but
the silence between breath,
and I love you
outside of words in my language
(besides softness in the black endless of my pupils,
the tremor I cannot stop for hours when you pass between rooms
and I glimpse your shoe,
this sick shrill clamp on my body when I let myself think, ohsobriefly, that
I am truly without you)
I am jealous and crazy.
I am pathetic and dangerous.
(and I thought: we only expose what we desire to those that we love)
But my hair was never made of gold
and you’ll say that doesn’t matter
no small shallow trifling matter
but I’d cut my heart out for you
I’ve already begged at you for four years
And that won’t impress you
So what my dear, what am I to do?

I confess...
I was wearing a Freudian slip under my dress
So, if I wrote this letter
would bitterness stain and confine it?
the strength, the etiquette I have refined
you'll never know now, you'll never know
I search for the lovers
the believers
bid my time to living
But maybe we can share our wisdom later
when the understanding collects with years
over
Me the contradiction
You the cryptic
Us the war




[This message has been edited by Elizabeth Cor (edited 10-14-2000).]

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Elizabeth Cor
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Over the river and through the woods
1 posted 2000-10-14 05:11 AM


Hmmm... maybe this was a bit too long. Should I try and keep my posts short and sweet  ?

~ Beth

Marsha
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2 posted 2000-10-14 05:45 AM


Elizabeth, this is astounding, such pain and hurt you've expressed, and done it so well. Passions is a land where poets come to heal their souls, and I think your soul needs a touch of magic.
Take care
                Marsha
                    

Denise
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3 posted 2000-10-14 09:32 AM


Nope, short and sweet is not necessary. Poetry comes in all shapes and sizes. You are a very talented writer. Welcome to Passions! This is the first I have seen of your writing. I look forward to reading more from you!

Denise

doreen peri
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since 1999-05-25
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Virginia
4 posted 2000-10-14 09:44 AM


YES!



This is one of the finest pieces of poetry I have read on these forums. If I wanted to quote best lines, I'd have to quote the whole thing. These particularly stood out for me.

quote:
If I could hush the dragons in my head, I would

I drop one eye open to diamonds:
tears stunted on my eyelashes with the snap of wake-fall.
I flex legs against the sweat in my sheets
nonnoticing swirls in my ears of the push pull of my lungs
and the empty shout of dust slanted over the sunlight.

I have hated dreams where I am sheltered in the bliss of your conversation,
snapping forward in the wake-fall to find my fist on the ghost of your hand.

You are not the push and pull of my lungs but
the silence between breath,
and I love you
outside of words in my language


You are a very fine writer and I will search for more of your work. This is a dymanic, painful, emotionally charged piece with excellent verbiage and imagery. You have a command of the language which is awesome and I am VERY glad i have discovered your work here. Thank you.

~ all you can really ever expect out of life is a sincere apology and some decent poetry ~


Robert Joseph
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5 posted 2000-10-14 09:47 AM


Elizabeth, I'm taken by your words, my own heart swelled in the wake of similarity...outstanding work.

Robert Joseph

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Elizabeth Santos
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Pennsylvania
6 posted 2000-10-14 10:23 AM


Elizabeth,
You are an extrmely talented writer. It is a pleasure reading your work. Length is not the object, for this piece is quality from beginning to end.
You have a great passion for writing
Superb!
Liz

Marge Tindal
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7 posted 2000-10-14 10:28 AM


ElizabethCor~

'I confess...
I was wearing a Freudian slip under my dress'


Though I enjoyed it all -
this line stuck out in my mind.
Great thought !
~*Marge*~



~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
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Janet Marie
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Posts 18554

8 posted 2000-10-14 11:48 AM


You are not the push and pull of my lungs but
the silence between breath,
and I love you
outside of words in my language
(besides softness in the black endless of my pupils,
the tremor I cannot stop for hours when you pass between rooms
and I glimpse your shoe,
this sick shrill clamp on my body when I let myself think, ohsobriefly, that
I am truly without you)
I am jealous and crazy.
I am pathetic and dangerous.
(and I thought: we only expose what we desire to those that we love)
But my hair was never made of gold
and you’ll say that doesn’t matter
no small shallow trifling matter
but I’d cut my heart out for you
I’ve already begged at you for four years
And that won’t impress you
So what my dear, what am I to do?

I confess...
I was wearing a Freudian slip under my dress
So, if I wrote this letter
would bitterness stain and confine it?
the strength, the etiquette I have refined
you'll never know now, you'll never know
I search for the lovers
the believers
bid my time to living
But maybe we can share our wisdom later
when the understanding collects with years
over
Me the contradiction
You the cryptic
Us the war

==================
damn....this is awesome, amazing ...
DEEP DEEP DEEP ...
i will be putting this impressive piece of work in my library for many future reads ...
there is much to be discovered in this ..
one or two reads would not do it justice ...

>>"You are not the push and pull of my lungs but
the silence between breath,
and I love you<<"


what an amazing line ..."the silence between breath"
man.. i wish i had wrote that one...
major poet envy here  

and hey Dor... While i was reading this...
I was thinking to myself.. she alot writes like you and also how much you'd like this...
then I saw your reply LOL...

Beth.. you have eloquently written what I feel many times...
please dont keep them "short and sweet"
give us time...
the forums are slower on the weekends and late nights and it aslo takes a while for new names to get read ...
but your doing it right replying as well
superb write ...keep em coming
take care
jm

serenity blaze
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since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738

9 posted 2000-10-14 12:47 PM


This is just superb writing.  Sorry it took so long to find you!  (thank you, doreen, for pointing this one out to me)  A stunning flow of words, and so rich...words fail me.

Write On, Lady.

brian madden
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since 2000-05-06
Posts 4374
ireland
10 posted 2000-10-14 01:07 PM


OK Just picking my jaw up off the ground... an amazing poem, wonderful metaphors, powerful writing. WOW filing this one in my library for further reads. excellent poem, and belated welcome to Passions.  

"an afixiation a fix on anything the line of life the limb of a tree
the hands of he and the promise that s/he is blessed among women".
Patti Smith

Nan
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Cape Cod Massachusetts USA
11 posted 2000-10-15 09:07 AM


Your writing is quite breathtaking, Beth - (and I'm glad you're Beth, as we've a plethora of Elizabeth's)... Do continue posting more of your wondrous works - Passions is a great place for you to share your talent... So glad you're here..
Irish Rose
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since 2000-04-06
Posts 10263

12 posted 2000-10-16 12:46 PM


This is an astounding journey into passion, anger, venting, even release.
It left me breathless. As far as length goes? Write until your heart runs out of ink!
< !signature-->

Kathleen




[This message has been edited by Irish Rose (edited 10-16-2000).]

Elizabeth Cor
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Posts 879
Over the river and through the woods
13 posted 2000-10-16 12:53 PM


Again, I am in awe with this reception... and I would like to reply to each response personally:

Marsha,
If this is a place of healing, then my stay will not be short    . This was written during a terrible break of choas that I am still mending from. Thank you for your encouragment and attention.

Denise,
  Whew! That's a bit of direction I don't mind hearing (I am so long-winded)    . Thank you for the welcome and your kind words.

Doreen,

WOW!

  And I am VERY glad to have caught your attention. I cannot tell you how thrilled I am to know that such an exceptional writer, such as yourself, has taken such a liking to this piece. I wish I could convey my graitude in more filling words. THANK you.

Robert Joseph,
"my own heart swelled in the wake of similarity" can I steal this???     What a beautiful, tender reply. To touch someone else with recognition... I couldn't ask for more than that.

Liz,
  First of all, I insist you call me Beth    .
Secondly, it is a pleasure to recieve such a generous reply. Thank you so much!

Marge,
You devil, how did you know! I wrote that line randomly some time ago waiting for the perfect place in which to fit it... and here it is, snug in this poem and you fished it out.     I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I love your gorgeous ocular verses!

Janet,
Thank you for the adivce! I certainly found this to be true after a long weekend. And I am picking up many lines here where I think "
Darn it! I almost HAD that one!" Looking around, I've been beaten to lines, stanzas, and subjects(ooo that's a killer). So the feeling is more than mutual    . Keep em coming? No problem!      

Serenity,
It's okay! It's only my second post    . And I don't know how I could not be speechless myself with such a sweet reply. Thank you, Serenity.

Brian,
~helps you puch your jaw back into it's former position~
We get a personal library? Can this place get any more fabulous??? I'm instantly running off to find out how to access mine... well, at least as soon as I've finished with my replications. Thank you so very, very much for reading, I'm so happy you enjoyed it.

Nan,
I'm glad I'm a Beth too!    

Once again, I must thank you for your tremendous welcome; the extra time and care meant worlds to me. And I will most definitely keep posting... and reading.

~~~~
Thank you all, once again, for your amazing appreciation.

~ Beth


Irish Rose,
You wrote in during the time I was writing these replies, so I'm sorry I must put this in as an afternote. My gratitude for your gracious detailed reply. And I doubt that I will ever run out of that particular ink... especially, I believe, if I spend more time in this forum.



[This message has been edited by Elizabeth Cor (edited 10-16-2000).]

Poertree
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since 1999-11-05
Posts 1359
UK
14 posted 2000-10-20 05:36 PM


heh heh ..i'm following doreen around and agreeing with her.

this is seriously interesting stuff Beth ...PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE consider CA .... just one lil poem maybe??

very good writing

thanks

philip

Christopher
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Purgatorial Incarceration
15 posted 2000-10-20 05:55 PM


great - now Philip's begging...

Beth - another - I think you've gained another fan here - I really love the profound style of your words as well as teh vocabulary used to emit them. I checked out your website - and yeah... impressed muchly so I am.  

If I could hush the dragons in my head, I would
And I might cheat my fear and demand you back, if I could
But maybe my madness has finally exhausted you to the core
And there were promises that I ravaged,
And there is grief I can’t outgrow
And I’m sorry that I broke your ideals instead of your heart


Becuase, yeah - I've been you and she was he - and I lived this life of pain.

Peace

Chris

Read my Words.
Read my Face.
Don't just look at either.
-C


Jamie
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since 2000-06-26
Posts 3168
Blue Heaven
16 posted 2000-10-20 06:03 PM


Beautiful writing Elizabeth....ignore Philip, he is probably just having withdrawals-- I have not provided him any fodder of late



Jamie

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito. - Virgil.
"Yield thou not to adversity, but press on the more bravely".



Wilfred Yeats
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since 2000-08-04
Posts 2704
Wilmington, Delaware
17 posted 2000-10-20 10:41 PM


beth-
take 'irish rose, and doreen and Janet marie's replies and consider them echoed 0 in spades! totally awesome!

Elizabeth Cor
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since 2000-10-13
Posts 879
Over the river and through the woods
18 posted 2000-10-21 03:36 AM


Philip, You've certainly choosen a brilliant person to follow... although I'm not so sure doreen even agrees with herself all of the time  . And I submitted this piece to CA.

Chris, so you've been to my personal well of selfish gratification... I don't know that there is much on it to be impressed with but thank you! I think a large number of us has been where I have been (where I still am 40% of the time...) Thank you for your compliments, and peace to you, my friend   .

Jamie, hee hee Philip doens't seem dangerous as of yet, so I think I can humor him for the time being   I truly appreciate your time and sweet reply (and word of caution heh heh).

Wilfred, Well, thank you, kind sir! I've so enjoyed your mastery of love intwined words.... oh but if I were a single lass and just a smidgen older .

Thank you all, again, so very very much.
~ Beth


[This message has been edited by Elizabeth Cor (edited 10-21-2000).]

Sven
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19 posted 2000-10-21 08:04 PM


excellent Beth. . . I could say more. . . but I'd just be repeating everyone else. . .

and don't worry about the length. . . just keep writing!!  

-------------------------------------------------------

That which gives light must endure burning
--Victor Frankl


Acies
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20 posted 2000-10-22 10:07 PM


WOW!!! You just totally redefined the meaning of "Passions in Poetry".  This might not be the sweetest poem I've read in passions, but it's the most powerfull.  Where do you get these ideas?

I think everyone needs to kneel infront of you and bow there heads with respect.
You deserve a standing ovation.

I guess everyone's imperfections is what drives us to write with such emotion.  As I've written for someone before, "Thou mask thy self in furtive lies, and that of heart's pretend...Yet foolish pride and blinded eyes awaits for love to mend"  We know...but we still keep trying.

BRAVO!!!

I see no changes, wake up in the morning I ask myself, "Is life worth living or should I blast myself" TUPAC SHAKUR


Elizabeth Cor
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Over the river and through the woods
21 posted 2000-10-23 04:03 AM


Sven, I run into that trouble so much myself  . Thank you for gracious, pleasant voice and gentle support.

Acire, WOW, yourself! How am I ever to reply to a statement like that?? And how can I show my appreciation for such eager, generous words? I don’t think I deserve half of what you’ve accredited me with…

“I guess everyone's imperfections is what drives us to write with such emotion” undoubtedly!  
“We know...but we still keep trying” Will we ever, ever learn?   (I think everyone has been here)

~ Beth

(and no kneeling, PLEASE!   )

I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.

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