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Balladeer
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0 posted 2000-10-02 08:04 PM



(with no intent to offend anyone)

As years pass by on hurried wings I set myself to ponder
What lies in wait up there for me behind that starry yonder.
Some being that is all supreme is logical to me
But there must be a thousand symbols - which one can it be?

There are so many gods to choose from? How can this be done?
With each one stating that their god can be the only one.
Every church has its belief but there's one thing for certain....
No one knows what happens on the far side of the curtain.

Yet every faith is sure they know what happens after death
And it will be their God there waiting at your final breath
But, should you choose another, you are doomed to die in vain
Though how they know is something they cannot seem to explain.

I've studied Buddhists, Moslems, Taoists, Christians and the Jews
Yet find there's something lacking still, no matter who I choose.
Perhaps there's just one God above with many different names
Who is the God for everyone, regardless of the claims.

I'd like to think there's someone I could pray my soul to take
But find that I have problems with the apple and the snake.
I'm told if I do not believe in faith considered blind
Then heaven will not open gates of entry for my kind.

So I will dwell on it no longer..it will be my plan
To concentrate on my life here and be a friend to man
All I can do is live my life as kind as I can be
And, if that isn't good enough, then Heaven's not for me.

© Copyright 2000 Michael Mack - All Rights Reserved
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1 posted 2000-10-02 08:08 PM


With your heart I am sure it will be enough.  No offense taken here at all. Sometimes the answers are not meant to be given....just knowing the questions and realizing that kindness and love for fellow man should be enough.  Superb penning
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2 posted 2000-10-02 08:16 PM


Balladeer--I can relate to this so well...I see so much beauty around me in people and in nature...I see a little bit of God in myself...and everything else...and if I live my life in kindness and in love...then that IS my relegion.  Great poem!!
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3 posted 2000-10-02 08:18 PM


it's beautiful!!! a perfect poem!!!
you are beautiful....... every word is true

thank you for penning my heart
(((hug))))

oh, and hey, if for some reason both of us inadvertantly attach the wrong name to Him,  and they won't let us in... wanna go shoot some pool?

if there is... and i know there is... a God... there is only one... and He won't keep   honest, good people out...no matter what name they call Him.... and if there's not, well, there's gotta be some good chicken wings, a diner with some great food, and maybe a pool hall somewhere, huh?

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4 posted 2000-10-02 08:30 PM


'deer! You forget, there is always a place in Heaven for a poet!

I agree with your sentiments, sometimes we 'organize' faith out of the faithful.  

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5 posted 2000-10-02 08:33 PM


Bal: Great, super message....

But I'll let you into a secret, you'll know me in any faith cause my wings will buzz, (just like Buzz aka Toe) becaue they'll shelter you from harm and because following me will be a rainbow set to start a fire...

Like I said, superb, tactful post...may all our dreams reach out and touch one another in whichever heaven you believe in...just watch for the angel that teases you unmercifully...cause that will be me, have no doubt on that score...*g*  Even Lucifer would have a hard time with me, I'd scare him with a rainbow, bring him down with love and shame him with honesty...the rat!!...

oooops

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6 posted 2000-10-02 08:34 PM


A difficult topic, written beautifully.
I'm sure God has not taken offense
In fact He's probably applauding
Liz

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7 posted 2000-10-02 08:42 PM


I think we've all had these same ponderings at one time or another...if not, it would mean that we are not thinking creatures. I can't speak for the other religions but I know that Christianity is not meant to be a religion of blind faith, but a faith based on thousands of years of revelation. I can't give you the 'address' but somewhere way back in the Old Testament, God says, "Come let us reason together." Whatever is needful to be understood, can be. What can't be understood, doesn't have to be understood. I think all religions that advocate blind faith are doing a great disservice to mankind. They are demanding something that even God does not demand. I also believe that anyone with an honest heart seeking after God will be led to God. It's what is in the heart that matters most. I don't believe that God minds doubt and honest questioning. How else would one come to the answers without questioning?! Great writing as always, Balladeer!  

Denise

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8 posted 2000-10-02 08:48 PM


Michael...you have penned with your gift of wisdom the questions we all ask our selves at some time in our lives.
Its not the name on the sign, or the man that stands up at the pulpit ...
its the voice we hear from with-in
and the light that shines from our hearts
when we find our own peace in just knowing...
the quiet comfort is the higher power ...
all we have to do is believe ...
(for some of of the hardest part is believing in our selves)
you ponder with class and grace my sweet poetice pal...
always ...
later-wise-gator
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9 posted 2000-10-02 09:06 PM


I had to come back to this thread to say this... i believe that the problem is... people, "religions", or creeds... that EXCLUDE  people... IMHO... ALL people are God's people... there IS only ONE  God... and although i truly believe that the Man who came here and claimed to be the Christ, was exactly who He said He was... which is most important... all Man and all God all at the same time!!!.. a true connection... but that's just MY belief

i ALSO believe that God doesn't leave ANYBODY  out... because God is all that's good and how could He possibly leave out hundreds of thousands of Hindus and Buddhists and the multi-million other faiths on this planet and all GOOD people who don't profess any religion?????

i truly believe that He reveals Himself to each of us in different ways... in ways that we can best understand Him... and exclusion based on creed is dangerous and damaging to people's lives...

and Michael has revealed that truth here in this most beautifully written piece of poetry which i will always treasure

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10 posted 2000-10-02 11:58 PM


Mark...thank you for the kind comments. I hope you are right.

Martie...I think kindness and love is a wonderful religion....and I certainly see God in your pen. Thank you

Doreen...I would certainly hope He wouldn't and, if he does, pool and chicken wings sounds great!! Thank you for your wonderful words....

deVine one...I agree that poets should have their own special  section...with a spectacular view!   Thank you...

Rainbow...pity the Devil that crosses you! I'm sure you'll be around. How could it be Heaven without you???

Elizabeth....could be. It's been thundering here for hours!   Thank you, good friend

Denise...the grace and eloquence that you use in your reply is a credit to both you and your beliefs. I applaud you....

JM...class and grace is named Janet Marie. Your thoughts and reply are wonderful things. I'm VERY happy to know you.....

Doreen....WOW! Obviously this subject is very close to you and I concur with your thoughts completely. Millions of people lived before the birth of Christ. I would hate to think they are excluded from life everlasting because they were born too early. I'm sure there must be reasons for all of the questions we may have and perhaps it is just not in God's plan to reveal them. I know that I am not smart enough to and that is why I concentrate on what I DO know, which is this life and, hopefully, if I do it right, the hereafterwill be there.

You;re right! You would have been the PERFECT campaign manager for President Balladeer and VP LongJohn!!!

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11 posted 2000-10-03 12:14 PM


Mr. Deer
You've penned your "Ponderings" very well in this piece. Oh, but you always do.  I can't say that I've read anything you've written that I didn't like.  I quickly becoming your biggest fan   

Garfield

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12 posted 2000-10-03 12:22 PM


Balladeer~ I loved this.  It takes more than showing up for church every Sunday to get into Heaven, it's what's in your heart.   -SEA
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13 posted 2000-10-03 12:23 PM


Yes, Yes, and Yes again!!!   Methinks you just broke my fever, a poet and philospher, and now a healer too...what a man!!!
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14 posted 2000-10-03 07:39 AM


Oh Balladeer ... I curtsey to you in how you so beautifully and tactfully handled such a difficult topic. Well done!  

I hold to one simple line in my daily grind ... "do unto others, as you would have others do unto you". I believe it all comes full circle, and with this simple verse, it makes all else easier to follow.

The thing I love about this topic ... is that "some day" we will all know, and until then, I'll keep my heart and mind open. I loved this Michael.

Best wishes,
/Kit

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15 posted 2000-10-03 07:48 AM


Oh dear Bal
This is great, I do believe there is an afterlife of some kind and I believe we are all headed there no matter what. I don't believe in hell, to me it doesn't exist we all have a second chance but hey why not make the most of this one just in case, cause who really knows what awaits us after death???????
Tracie~


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It is the harmony of the universe


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16 posted 2000-10-03 07:53 AM


WOW... You've written about religion and you have no dissenters??... That's an amazing feat - You've done an astounding job, of course - I really enjoyed this read, my friend...

...and BTW.. The one true God has no "religion"...

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17 posted 2000-10-03 07:54 AM


Deer,
seems you've opened heaven's floodgate. I liked the questions and even the answers.
Be well
Kethry


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but it is the loss that shapes the image,
gathers the flowers weaves the garland."-

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18 posted 2000-10-03 09:51 AM


The first "Bible verse" I ever learned was really only part of a verse: "God is love." But the whole verse has sustained me as the beliefs of my parents became something I couldn't accept as my own: "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." (1 John 4:8) I believe religions should exclude hatred... instead many of the religious hate those they exclude. If I'm wrong, I guess I'll learn to play pool. *G* (I hope those chicken wings are extra spicy! *G*) Of course, if I should make it to heaven, I expect to find a poets' corner.... After all, I'll need y'all to describe every nook and corner so that I can "see" it... for I've no intention of taking my eyes off of Toe! *G*


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19 posted 2000-10-03 10:25 AM


God probably already has a job picked out for you ... like ... sharpening Cupids' arrows

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20 posted 2000-10-03 10:34 AM


So many ways to believe, and so little time to enjoy them all...

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21 posted 2000-10-03 10:43 AM


ok, i won't argue names, cause first i need to get my life up to "kind as I can be", then i will seek an introduction....but...sigh...i think troubled souls are already on his list, cause if he isn't taking care of me...then who is?....hugs for a great poem
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22 posted 2000-10-03 11:31 AM


'Deer - Great writing and a lot of thought went into this poem.  You have a way of reaching people that makes you a true gift for us all.  A blessing?  You?  Why not?  Maybe we all should try to be blessings for others.  It was good of you to point the way, 'Deer.
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23 posted 2000-10-03 11:52 AM


I feel sure that there will be a special place in heaven for a POET who brings so much pleasure. The angels will sit in awe as you read your sweet poetry.

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24 posted 2000-10-03 02:54 PM


Garfield...with fans like you, I must be doing something right! I thank you for your kindness  

SEA...Yes, it does. Many who simply show up feel that their requirement is met..the heart is indeed what matters. Thank you....

serenity...I'm happy to break your fever but I would prefer to give you one   Your comment is very special and I thank you  

Kit...I truly believe that you do live by that rule. It shows in your writings    Your heart and mind are both wonderful things..

tracie66...I couldn't agree more! Just live this one the best way we can and, hopefully, the next one will take care of itself.  

Nan....that IS a little mind-boggling, isn't it? I hesitated on posting because I didn't want to raise a controversy and I have come to see again how open and special people here really are....thanks for dropping in  

Kethry....and I appreciate the comment  

Suthern...extra spicy coming up and there's always room in the side pocket for you! I admire your thoughts here, my friend. Not keep your eyes off Toe? In Heaven?? You kidding??

Rex...actually I was hoping to fill in for the little cherub once in a while  

Sunshine....ain't it the truth! We just have to do what we can do  

jinxed...who are you kidding? From what I know about you, kindness is there in abundance. I'm sure there's a special angel assigned to you....and working overtime!  

LongJohn...your witty comments make me laugh but your sincere ones give me a warm feeling of having done something right. I thank you, sir  

inot2B...what a kind thing for you to say! Thank you!! (I'm still looking for angels here on earth )

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25 posted 2000-10-04 09:07 PM


You've penned my thoughts here Mr B. And in such an eloquent, poignant way - the way that is your trademark.

Peace,

Chris

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26 posted 2000-10-05 07:13 PM


Well, well, well... Sir Balladeer... you have stirred up the pot and cooked a mighty fine stew with this one.  Me?  Hmmmm... there is no heaven and there is no hell... just something else that comes after for this thing we call 'soul.' God & the Devil... opposite sides of the coin to be found within us all... good & evil... how much we succumb to one or the other decides how we are seen by others and ourselves.  Is there an ultimate being? I think so... there is just too much out there to have happened on its own.  But no labels we as humans could ever speak will ever suffice... its too big to wrap our brains around, much less our tongues.  Some might say I'm in left field for these thoughts, but that's OK, I like catching the occassional fly ball that comes my way.  It's a pity there is so much fighting and suffering over what amounts to really no more than a life style.  As for me... I'll do the best I can for myself and others... live with love and compassion... and die with the desire to see beyond this world.  What ever there is out there, I'm sure it will be a trip.  Peace to you and yours, and thanks for the thought provoking poetry.  Your friend here and now, and on the other side...

Andrew, Scott

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27 posted 2000-10-07 10:39 PM


Balladeer-These ponderings have also crossed my way and I have studied other religions.  I believe as you do, its not so much who is right about the great beyond, but what we do with what we have while here.  I think our purpose here is what we leave behind, be it poetry or other lives our lives touch, that makes passing this way oh so special.  You've written some awesome thought provoking words, not offensive, but appreciated. Take care my friend.
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28 posted 2000-10-07 10:54 PM


I believe God has prepared a place for our souls...and if one can believe in God it is not so hard to believe that he sent a son to die for us and our sins and when we die our souls will be free to live with God just as his precious son Jesus has already done...our day will come...don't get me wrong...I love every day he gives me to walk this earth but also look forward to everlasting life with my creator...James
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29 posted 2000-10-08 10:02 AM


I believe and am a Christian, even when I am disappointed in life, can't explain it, but know and feel him in  my heart.
But I can understand you, and its great to read, the way that you think about it, knowing that a lot of people will recognize it.

like your way of writing

Charisma

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30 posted 2000-10-08 10:40 AM


And ya didn't even mention a single awful thought about Toe?...Why, what's up here? Yammean Suthern won't find me in heaven? But, I'm such a fine spiritual person, (at least I was on acid)......Very well done here Mr. Deer.......your ponderings are pretty well pondered out I'd say.......
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31 posted 2000-10-08 10:56 AM


So I will dwell on it no longer..it will be my plan
To concentrate on my life here and be a friend to man
All I can do is live my life as kind as I can be
And, if that isn't good enough, then Heaven's not for me.

this is how I feel also...nicely  written Balladeer

~~smiles
Maureen


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32 posted 2000-10-08 11:27 AM


Balladeer~
I am reminded of a saying my grandmother had -

'Believe in something - and start with yourself!
Each day you live - give !
It doesn't matter who you call God -
it only matters that He calls you !
Give Him a reason to know your name.'

A wonderful write, my friend.
~*Marge*~


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33 posted 2000-10-13 01:19 AM


I think the operative word here is BELIEF...whatever you believe, have faith in. whatever makes you the person you are...thats BELIEF...whos to say which ones right or wrong? Like you I feel being a kind compassionate person...willing to be there for a friend or a stranger...I may not worship in a building but as long as I can see and appreciate whats around me and treat others with respect and kindness then heavens gate should stand wide for me.
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34 posted 2000-10-13 02:30 AM


I agree with Poetdevine that there is a place in Heaven for poets. For you There is no doubt the gates have already opened. The God of all has already welcomed you.


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