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JamesMichael
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0 posted 2000-05-03 05:25 PM


I wrote this in 1995...I was hurt because I was falling in Love with a woman that was not falling in Love with me...she was using me...we were using each other. James 2000 edited this.

Who hurts you?

It's not people who Love you that hurt you.
It's people that you Love who hurt you.
Sometimes they leave you...
and you're left alone wondering what to do.
Sometimes they bring you to tears...
and cause your heart to suffer every doubt and fear.
An addiction can take them from you.
Is it more valuable in their mind than you?        Yes...and that hurts too.
I'd sure like to know how alcohol...drugs...or sex here and there
can be more important than a friendship...a relationship...and a love affair.
How can I be a lover to someone who's true lover
is alcohol and drugs and sexual pleasure.
Why must I fall in Love with someone who's life seems devoted to hurting me beyond all measure.

Jameslee@January1995



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daft
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1 posted 2000-05-03 05:32 PM


It's a sad thing. I thought about this one & nothing seems to have changed. There are still many people which are the way that you explained.
Marina
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2 posted 2000-05-03 05:35 PM


Everyone I think James, has been fooled into this sitaution at one time or other.  It is sad to offer someone so much when they had never the intention to offer it back. The worst part is when we think you can help them change.

Marina

Poet deVine
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3 posted 2000-05-03 07:38 PM


I think we are only hurt by those that we love the most....this is a very good description of your pain.
JamesMichael
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4 posted 2000-05-04 03:46 PM


Thank you daft, Marina, and Poet Devine for reading and your wonderful comments.  Yes the worst part is that we think we can help them change...and they only want someone to rescue them over and over again...but something in side of us compels us to participate...almost like I need that experience as much as they do..Only the ones who are in love would stick around to be abused...foolishly I might add...all the others would have said goodbye long ago.  James
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5 posted 2000-05-04 06:07 PM


It always hurts when you love someone, and they love something that hurts you. I hope writing this helped you.

 "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -Oscar Wilde

netswan
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6 posted 2000-05-04 06:47 PM


This is a lovely poem and so sad.

Yes, people who you love do hurt you.
Drugs, alcohol, loose sex morals and so
many things -- even cut downs, put downs,
and things that hurt you to the core.

But, the bright side is -- once you realize
that when a person has an addiction --
it is not that they don't still love you,
they are so involved in their own problems
and their addictions and no one can help
them stop except themselves.

So, the real bright side is that you can
learn about yourself and find out why
you get attracted to those that are "helplessly devoted to their addictions"

Being a co-dependent does not have to be.
choosing these types to love does not have
to be ---

In families, when you have them ---we love
with "tough love" and if they can't accept
that and get help -- we have to let them
go, for our own self preservation -- and
we learn to find healthy individuals
to give our hearts to so that our love is
returned ----

This poem is from the heart that bleeds.
And, from now on, needs no longer to bleed
over --- trying to make an addicted person
love you -----IT can't be  -- until they
get help they love only what they NEED.
So never take it personally!

Hugs from netswan

Lone Wolf
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7 posted 2000-05-04 07:01 PM


James,
This is very touching.  So sad to be hurt by those we love the most.  Of course, watching them hurt themselves is just as bad.  Glad this was not recent.  Great writing!  


 Friends are friend forever if the Lord's the Lord of them and a friend will not say never cause the welcome will not end.
--Michael W. Smith

Sudhir Iyer
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8 posted 2000-05-05 04:20 AM


James,
I am moved...
Nice but sad flow of thoughts...

Regards, Sudhir

 In any moment of decision,
The best thing you can do is the right thing,
The next-best thing is the wrong thing,
And the worst thing you can do is nothing.
- Theodore Roosevelt

JamesMichael
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9 posted 2000-05-05 07:34 PM


Thank you Love Bug, Netswan, Lone Wolf, and Sudhir for your very nice remarks.
Writing about the pain I have experienced in my life helps me to understand my part in the situation..I believe that knowledge, wisdom, and understanding can improve my position in life.
It seems that I am attracted to women that don't quite have their acts together..and usually it is a sexual attraction.  I am trying to step back and let things happen in my relationship instead of trying to control them and manipulate them...I am having some success...I feel more comfortable stepping back.
I agree about watching them hurt themselves is hard to bear..I used to feel liked I should rescue them...but I am changing..I don't want to rescue them.   Thanks to you all for understanding.   James

monique
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10 posted 2000-05-05 07:51 PM


You describe very well a situation I am in right now
and it is so hard to let go


monique

JamesMichael
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11 posted 2000-05-07 03:28 PM


I know what you mean Monique...it has taken me a year to let go...and I still am letting go...I found there were stages..in the beginning it was almost impossible..emotionally and mentally..later it was something I knew that I must do...I went thru an anger stage...and now the final act has begun....all in all a process that is very stressful and yet a growning experience.   James
Kit McCallum
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12 posted 2000-05-07 03:41 PM


It is so hard to watch those in such situations too James.  Although not a victim myself, I watched helplessly as my sister was drawn over and over to the same type. I wrote many a poem for her ... hoping she'd someday see that she was worthy of better.

"Be true to yourself, and demand the best for yourself …  For only through lessons learned, can we create our own happiness"  

I'm grateful that she's now found a wonderful man and broken the spell.  Thank you for a lovely and thought provoking poem.

/Kit

Aimster
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13 posted 2000-05-07 05:04 PM


--James

As always you write with such direct honesty and with a lovely style. this piece here spoke volumes..though written five years ago, its meaning and message are none-the-less quite POWERFUL still. I am sorry that you had to endure this kind of hurt and pain...but I think we all do at one time or another in our lives. Its very hard to fall in love with someone who doesn't love you and isn't willing to give you their heart. Especially when you have already given them yours. And it sounds like the person you speak of in this piece...was on a course for self-destruction. I think it is best that you didn't get wrapped up in their life...just my opinion. At any rate...i wish you a new love who will love you as equally much as you love them. Take care and best of luck to you!

Amy  

 ~Live today as though it were your last but prepare for tomorrow as though it were here~

Tuck
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14 posted 2000-05-07 08:18 PM


what a beautiful poem....on such a sad subject....i agree with who said that who we love the most hurts us the most...hope things have worked themselves out...they always seem to...
JamesMichael
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15 posted 2000-05-08 03:50 PM


Thank you Kit, Amy, and Tuck for taking the time to read and comment on my writiing.  Kit that is a wonderful message about your sister.  It takes strength and courage to let go and do whats right.  Thanks Amy for your concern and thoughts.  I am learning about mutual attractions right now...I am backing away from women that make me do all the work...if they are interested in me they need to let me know.   James
PericolosoAmore
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16 posted 2000-05-08 04:28 PM


I hear you on this one. I know what it's like to be i your position.
great poem.
P.A.

JamesMichael
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17 posted 2000-05-10 02:24 PM


Thank you Amore I appreciate your response.  James
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