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Lost Dreamer
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Somewhere near the Rainbow

0 posted 2000-04-22 08:30 AM


Complete Sadness

I am saddened this day for I know of people
who want to come and relax ease their day,
now they come and see depression plastered
as black wallpaper in their once living room.
I as one cannot seem comfortable anymore
my couch beat on and all lumpy from abuse.
We've been pushed from our own cozy home
left in the street to wander and wonder why.
A house once so humble with love and friendship
has been rearranged so some can't come home,
I'm almost crying here as I write this for I'm lost
no answers at hand just sadness complete sadness.

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netswan
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since 2000-03-28
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1 posted 2000-04-22 08:50 AM


Lost Dreamer,
Please don't cry -- your lovely
home will be back - sometimes we
have to move out of our comfort zones
and it is not easy to accept change,
but I will bet this is just a passing
phase --

And, this is very good for many of your
poet friends who are dripping out their
hearts --it is a healing phase and out
of this -- BEAUTIFUL poems, shall be
on your wall again.  You will see.

netswan

Janet Marie
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2 posted 2000-04-22 08:54 AM


LD,

I feel so compelled to answer this, that it almost hurts...I feel like crying as well.
IF I have interpretated this poem correctly, and I hope I have...
this says you are unhappy about all the poems of abuse, and saddness.
I have seen other replies in here of late that echo this feeling.
Im so sorry this is painful of hard to read for you and others.
I KNOW no one who participated ever meant to make anyone sad or uncomfortable here.
We always have the option of not reading these poems of topics that disturb us.
Please understand that MANY of us who write do so to heal these wounds and as we all have found out this week by the HUGE numbers of responses...there are MANY a poet in here who live this pain...some of which are just now dealing with it for the first time...
We have also discovered in the last days that we find healing and comfort in each other.
And is this not then perfect place for AWARENESS challneges?
Where better to reach so many passionate people...how better to help make a change..
how better to help each other?

Im sorry if I have misread this...i will edit it if I have...
and please know Im not in any way trying to
upset you...I was hoping to make anyone who has been upset or uncomfortable  in the last days understand...
as ONLY understanding and faith can help change the worlds pain...
looking away...wont make it go away...sometimes ya gotta see the world thru the tears to help heal it.


NO one here in this family would ever want to push others out or make them feel like they "cant come home".

through all of the sadness ...there was SO MUCH LOVE and FRIENDSHIP given...

we are all quiet comfort to each other.
this place is so special.
take care,jm

Marina
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3 posted 2000-04-22 10:34 AM


Lost Dreamer I knew as soon as I started reading this had to have been very difficult for you to put to paper.  But please know this is your home and you are a member of our family always.

Marina

Irish Rose
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4 posted 2000-04-22 11:02 AM


I agree....there's needed room for pain, but sometimes it's almost too much.....I agree....there should be balance, the poetry is all beautiful, but one right after another, it seeps into the spirit, hard to know what to read......but yet we all have to write....it is sadness


 Kathleen


Parker
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5 posted 2000-04-22 12:38 PM


Well, today is a new day for me. Back to the gushy romantic stuff, I love to write. Soon all this will fade and maybe this family will be a little   closer  for it all. That way we can start some interesting rumors, spread some gossip, be very very bad.
Summers coming in the North so the bright sunshine should spark some smiles.

Parker

Lost Dreamer
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Somewhere near the Rainbow
6 posted 2000-04-22 12:42 PM


I think I should explain a little here on my position with this, I was ignoring it just fine, till it was brought into the Corner Pub also, begging to be responded to, now are you gonna tell me this issue is not being forced, it's fine if you want it here, I can hide there or could until I was a prisoner in my backyard there too per say. See I choose not to think about this cause it affects me in other ways that no one can help so I have to not go there, but thank you I have been forced there today, but don't worry I shall survive. I uderstand you all hurt and I am sorry for that, and I understand you wish no one else to go where you have, I wish no one does either, I will end here saying God bless all and I hope we all can just be at peace again soon.
Marina
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7 posted 2000-04-22 02:11 PM


Lost Dreamer, the reason it was placed in the Corner Pub was because I had SEVERAL requests that I post it there, for those who do not post in open 7.  So, if you had a problem with my posting it in there perhaps you should have e-mailed me directly.  I would have been happy to listen to any issue you had with this challenge.  If you felt you were a "prisoner" it was certainly not through my doing.  I presented a challenge open to anyone who wished to participate. What they wrote or whatever emotions they wished to express, was purely up to them.  I won't apoligize for awareness that we have risen or the help that some recieved because we were there when they needed us.

Marina

doreen peri
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8 posted 2000-04-22 02:45 PM


Geez... and i thought you were writing about my house... LOL... hahahahaha...

hehe... smile, gloria...

Corinne
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9 posted 2000-04-22 05:13 PM


I've read your post, Lost Dreamer, and the replies herein.

My immediate response is this:  everyone here has a right to express their opinions through their art, however, we should also be sensitive to the effects we may have on others, especially when given in large doses, such as is the case with the child abuse poems.

Sometimes you can have too much of a good thing.

A person who has been abused may not want to see poems about this subject for days on end.

Perhaps we've done this theme and it is time to move on?

Just my humble opinion.

Corinne



Justin Thyme
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10 posted 2000-04-22 05:25 PM


Corinne.. i believe your response is Justin Thyme

Lost Dreamer-
you seen Cratchet?

Marge Tindal
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11 posted 2000-04-22 06:03 PM


LostDreamer~

As one of the responders to post two poems on the child abuse challenge, I'd like to say that I felt them because they touched my life as much as the things you write about touch yours.

I've taken the time to go back and read all of your posts (for the second time)- there have been times when you posted beautiful poems on events that mattered to you.  I read them and respected your right to post them.  What is so different about my feelings or the feelings of others on the tender subject of child abuse?

If the child abuse poems bother you so, I'm sorry for that ... I would simply suggest that you not read them. But I'm not willing to shove my thoughts into a 'black wallpaper' room where most child abuse stories lie.

This forum is a house of many rooms ... they are open to all of us.  
Your 'living room' and your 'backyard' are also shared by others.

Like you, I love the light and the sunshine ... but I also choose to share the 'complete sadness' of the stories of child abuse in the possible hope of getting others to recognize the abusal signs before another life is lost and to pay deserving words of tribute to those little lives taken.

As I write this and as you read it ... a child is being abused.  I choose not to close my eyes to that, no matter how much it hurts me to acknowledge it.

You know I love you and care about your feelings ...
I'm sure you care about mine.
God bless you.
Love ya'
~*Marge*~



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JamesMichael
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12 posted 2000-04-22 07:34 PM


I am thankful there is a forum such as this where we can post happy poems and sad poems...I have shared in other poets happiness and I have shared places of sadness...such as heartbreak, such as child abuse, and many other subjects.  Perhaps dark passions would be a better place to post unhappy poems so those that wish to read only happy ones will not be offended. Perhaps not.... Please do not get angry at me for mentioning this...I believe an open discussion is in order.   It is true that the sad poems may have outnumbered the happy ones this week.  My solution for this will be the same as always.  To read the ones I wish to read and to not read the ones I am not interested in... and I respect everyone else's right to do the same.  I admit there are times when I want to read a happy poem, a sad poem, a romantic poem, a poem of wisdom, a poem of compassion.  I thank God for all the poets and all the variety.  I sincerely wish no one was ever hurt or sad or lonely.  Hope no one gets mad at me for sharing my opinion...I am not mad at you for sharing yours.    James
mariee66
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13 posted 2000-04-22 07:50 PM


Wow...so much to read here!

I will say that I did one response to the challenge, and read many others.  I had to stop reading them, because I found them depressing.  They were really bringing me down. That was my choice, of course.

I am totally aware of the child abuse problem, and would go out of my way to help any child in need...I just had to stop reading the posts here on Passions.

In a way, I know where you are coming from.  Like Corinne said, it became too much of a good thing.

Take care,
Marie  




[This message has been edited by mariee66 (edited 04-22-2000).]

Marina
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14 posted 2000-04-22 07:58 PM


For what this may be worth.....it was never my intention to upset or,"open a can of worms" for anyone.  I realize this is a contriversal subject, but it is important.  It was only in here for  a few days and is now fading as all challenges we post do. It is true it brought out good and bad feelings, but perhaps it is best now to let it go and look to the future.  Tomorrow is a better day and I'm sure we will start seeing "happy" poems agian.  It is a long weekend, so let's all enjoy!!

Marina

RainbowGirl
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15 posted 2000-04-22 08:12 PM


I'll add my thoughts for what they are worth..

I will admit to feeling that to know so many children have suffered so much makes me feel extremely sad and angry that on my own I can do nothing to alter the situation...I'm also sad that so many of the poets here have either experienced it first hand themsleves or via knowledge that it happened to someone in their neighborhood...it's not right and I personally would hang every bloody person that inflicted even so much as a thought about a tiny individual that was harmful but I am also aware that if you were ever up against that kind of behaviour it must be absolutely awful to be confronted with it...am I sitting on the wall?...I hope not...I couldn't even begin to describe what I would do to any such person that inflicted or spoke about inflicting harm against a defenceless person, whether tiny or unable to defend themselves....

I think perhaps the subject is deep within our hearts for so many reasons and it is how we feel that eventually will gain perhaps the best way of putting an end to such abhorent crime...

The sad fact is that many of these situations cease to exist when the child dies but many go on to live through a holocaust that simply never ends..

I struggle for the words but more so, I struggle that such atrocities still happen...perhaps we, as a caring society can only ever end it by doing something positive and in this country, child abuse carries such a small sentence, it's pitiful...I feel for anyone that is reminded of memories here but I also recognise that child abuse should never be something that becomes accepted..

Perhaps a forum of its own where we can honour the memories of those that suffer, that are suffering; the living and those lives that ended in such a tragic way.


Jeffrey Carter
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16 posted 2000-04-22 11:04 PM


TO ALL CONCERNED,
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW "COMPLETELY SAD" IT MADE ME FEEL TO READ THIS. THERE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A DEBATE OVER THIS ISSUE. cOME ON PEOPLE FACE THE FACTS CHILD ABUSE IS A VERY REAL PROBLEM IN OUR SOCIETY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT NONE OF US ARE DOING ANYTHING TO STOP IT. WHAT I AM SAYING IS EVERYONE OF US COULD DO A WHOLE LOT MORE. TO ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO PUT THIS ISSUE ON THE BACK BURNER I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT

sUPPOSE IT WAS YOU OR EVEN WORSE YOUR CHILD , THEN HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

All my love,
Jeffrey

Denise
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17 posted 2000-04-22 11:08 PM


Sadness can sometimes be overwhelming. I can relate to your feelings, Gloria.

Denise

Lost Dreamer
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18 posted 2000-04-22 11:38 PM


I hope I say the right words here right now, seems I have done a lousy job so far and have become so misunderstood that I almost don't know what to say, but I will do the best I can and pray it comes out right. This was never an issue in my mind of I think child abuse is O.K., dear God it is not O.K. either is verbal abuse or mental abuse. I thought I had a very kind heart, that's what people tell me at least, but after seeing the way people treated me here I seem to doubt that I am very nice at all, I really must be a monster, but I don't mean to be. I hope one day you all can forgive me for trying to feel for the people that have issues within themselves that this effects, and that maybe can't or don't want to deal with these issues. Does that make them believe in child abuse? I have issues I did not know I had, and I was never abused, just abandoned in a sense when I was too young to understand and I must have swept it away. My main issue was more to stand up for those that find it hard to view the topic that had went on for a while, but that's beside the point too. You can help a blind man across the street but you can't keep him from turning around and walking into traffic, in other words you can't take someone who is not interested in reading this stuff and make them read it, and that's almost what it felt like this topic was getting too, how far can we push it, I understand that it helped many of you and that is wonderful, and I am thankful to God that he led you too one another, that's a blessing in itself, All I was trying to say was how much longer till some light could shine, that is all, and I am sorry that I created such a problem, because that is so not me, I guess I just got lost.  

[This message has been edited by Lost Dreamer (edited 04-22-2000).]

mariee66
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19 posted 2000-04-23 12:00 PM


Well said.
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