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Essorant
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But it is not healthy to use one for hiding behind from the truth and nursing pessimistic exaggerations about your president or your country.

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     Essorant is voicing a gripe that I've heard voiced by Canadians for a very long time.  They have a lot of gripes like this about us US-icans, and their various suggestions are frequently as sensible to their ears and as Bizarre to American ears as Essorant's are.  I must say, Essorant makes complete sense here and seems completely wrong headed as only a man who is governed by complete faith in logic can sometimes be.  I am thrilled and delighted  to hear his suggestion.
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When you say as bizarre to American ears, Bob, are you referring to Mexican ears, also?
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quote:
Essorant is voicing a gripe that I've heard voiced by Canadians for a very long time


For the most part I find Canadians use the word just as recklessly as United Statives.
 
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Balldeer for Pres!
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     I tend toward the possible use of "Canadiative", myself, for speaking of those from Canada.  It gets across the clear notion of "Canada" and "native residents" at the same time, in the same way that "United Stative" gets across the notion that we, here, in the more central reaches of the North American Continent, are both United and are stating something.  This is something that I find it important to do, to state something, and having "Stative" as part of my national identity might help.

     Mostly I find myself, these days, in a "Stative" confusion, for example.  It's good to remember this, when Mike asks me about Mexicans in the middle of a discussion about Canadians.  Then I can see Essorant's point.

     Exactly what we might be stating evades me at the moment, as it so often does.

     But then "Stative" and equally odd "Canadiative" are both neologisms that seem easy to explain and hard to justify.  These are yet  two more qualities that Essorant's and my suggestions share.  Brother nations, marching forward together, hurrah!

     More accurate these days might be to call us collectively The Disjunctive States of America; and we might all claim membership, Canadians and us neighbors to the south together, as well as our most southern Norte Americano members in Mexico, Disjunctive and disunited all in cordial disrespect, conjoined by geography.
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Drat.

To mimic is a form of praise unless
you have no thoughts of your own

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RIP Balladeer, but me? Just call me Max Stout and when I cross my threshold I feel earth beneath my feet. I leave others to slap a label on it while secretly calling it my own.


BTS

...just bein' Bluesy

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Just now, reading this post.

I find it extremely refreshing to find a valid conversation that stayed on track, polite, never condescending, and respectful. I've been away too long.
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I don't lose any sleep over being called a Canadian instead of an American. The rest of the world knows who we are. Why confuse them... Let it alone  
 
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