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Poeminister
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0 posted 2000-12-28 12:26 PM


What are the specific grammatical differences between thee and thou, and the differences between thy and thine, I usually have a natural impulse with their usage but get them mixed up occassionally.  Are they interchangable sometimes?


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Severn
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1 posted 2000-12-28 06:46 AM


Hmmm....

er...

K the English Major thinks to her one lone shakespeare paper...

umm

well

Why art thou plaguing me thus!?

(Actually I never studied thees and thous and whatnots lol...they are pains...)

I believe that thee = you/yourself and thou = yours. So thee is more a pronoun and thou is more of a possessive nature. Hm...so

actually, after having run a few sentences through my head I think I am talking rubbish...

I'll be back later - for I know they are not technicially supposed to be interchangable...I mean - c'mon - it's English  

Now I want to know.
I also hate being wrong...heh

K



Not A Poet
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2 posted 2000-12-28 10:12 AM


Well, for thee and thou, it is a matter of case. That is, thou is subjective and thee is objective. Thou and thee are sort of the second person equivalent of he and him. Examples are: Thou art happy. I am happy for thee.

I'm not quite so sure about thy and thine but I seem to recall they are older versions of your and yours, used somewhat like my and mine but again for the second person. Examples: Is that thy book. The book is thine.

Hope this helps, that is if it is correct.

Pete

Ron
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3 posted 2001-01-28 12:31 PM


http://www.oseda.missouri.edu/~kate/guardians/gailsden/thees.html

http://www.bartleby.com/185/41.html

  

Ian Llewellyn ap-Griffith
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4 posted 2001-07-21 02:02 AM


To answer your question concisely:
Thee can be used when one is talking about someone; as in: 'I saw thee yesterday' (objective case).
Thou can be used when addressing someone; as in: 'How art thou?' (nominative case)
Thy and thine are both possessive.
One uses thy when the subjet or object begins with a consanant; as in: 'Thy cart has overturned.'.
Thine is used when the subjet or object begins with a vowel; as in: 'Thine ears are huge!'.
Thine is also used when it ends a sentence; as in: 'Which half is thine?' or 'This half is thine!'.

I hope this clears up your confusion.
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Ian


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[This message has been edited by Ian Llewellyn ap-Griffith (edited 07-21-2001).]

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