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25 posted 03-09-2000 11:55 PM       View Profile for Gemini   Email Gemini   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Gemini

Michael, I will say this again, you write masterfully.
I have followed both of your writings for some time and neither will I take sides. Some words of advice passed on to me from a friend, I'm sorry to say I don't know who to quote in this case...
It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives.
Giving someone all your love is never assurance that they'll love you back!  Don't expect love in return, just wait for it to grow in their heart, but if it doesn't be content that it grew in yours.  There are things you'd love to hear that you would never hear from the person whom you would like to hear them from, but don't be so deaf as not to hear it from the one who says it from his heart.
Never say goodbye if you still want to try-never give up if you still feel you can go on-never say you don't love a person anymore if you can't let go.  Love comes to those who still hope although they've been hurt before and to those who have the courage and the faith to build trust again.  It takes only a minute to get a crush on someone, an hour to like someone and a day to love someone, but it takes a lifetime to forget someone.
Dream your dreams, be what you want to be, you only have one life to do all the things you want.  Always put yourself in others shoes, if you feel it hurts you, it probably hurts the other person.  A careless word may kindle strife, a cruel word may wreck a life, a timely word may level stress, a loving word may heal and bless.
When you were born you were crying and everyone around you was smiling.  Live your life so that when you die, you're the one who is smiling and everyone around you is crying.  I feel a fondness for both of you, I think you both need to take a step back and reaccess your lives, and what you mean to each other, but please never stop writing!
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26 posted 03-09-2000 11:59 PM       View Profile for jbowie   Email jbowie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for jbowie

do you understand my point?
I have nothing against you or any favoritism to michael. I had no idea this was about you until you brought it up. I said nothing bad but in reply to the reply, what does the word intitled mean. Is that related to Reintarnation: coming back in your second life as a hillbilly? don't take that as an insult to you because I do enjoy your writing. Unruffle please, because if you look I only replied on what was written, and replied due to the fact that it need not have been taken into such issue here. So we should have peace and please do understand I did not know of any finger pointing apparent in the body of the poem. Can you see my point?
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27 posted 03-10-2000 01:55 AM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

O.K. - the last thing I want to see is an argument brewing in one of my post.  I am going to close this thread and let it slip into Passions Heaven somewhere where hopefully it will rest in piece.

In all fairness I will adress this last issue as best I can:

jbowie, I understand your points completely and i thank you for your understanding.  I never addressed her by name nor in any manner would have tried to draw attention to her from anyone who didn't already know our situation, (or those that did) for that matter.  I write my emotion, that simply is all this was.  I would much rather have shared this with her in a private matter but I have never given that chance.  However, the (nice choice considering) you applied after addressing Gen in your comment I found highly inappropriate - and almost egging Gen on in that manner, so I really can't see a suprise being justified that she jumped on you.

Now then, Gen, there are several lines in direct referance to you as you know.  jbowie was simply stating that he never would have known had you not brought it to light.  Even for those who did know it was about you and I, I think their opinions shouldn't have that much bearing on you or how you react to such.  This has never been my way of trying to sway people one way or the other, it's merely been two things to me - 1, the only way I could release this emotion as you, my one point of strength were no longer there for me to lean on.  And 2, my only way to comminicate any feeling to you as every line of commincation was in some manner shut off to me.  I did return you a message after you told me I could email you anytime.  I addressed my concern, and never heard back from you.  Three days later, you deleted all your poetry and I was informed that you thought I was "obsessing" and so I never contacted you again.  I think you said somewhere that "what others think means nothing, this is our relationship".  That is my sentiment, exactly.  This has never been an attempt to stir up any strife and thus I hope you don't feel I am trying to do so now.  I can't say I wholly agreed with with your prior comments to me but to have peace at all right now between us means more to me than you could ever know - and I hope in all earnesty we can keep that peace and move forward from here in some manner.

On another note, you've asked me to help you stay focused, Gen.  I promised you I would always be there when and if you wanted/needed to talk.  I will not break that promise.  I agree, we are both much better people when we are looking to the light and I will do all I can to help you in that manner.  I must admit, though, I feel very uncomfortable even speaking with you right now.  You tend to take many things I say as personal attacks when they are not and if I am to help you in any manner you have to realize I am only offering my friendship and nothing more.  I NEED you to trust in that friendship.  I can't be of any good if you don't believe in me or in my faith and you have acknowledged before that you don't believe in either...that is why I stand shakey to this.

Molly & Gemini,
    I heard every word both of you said - I saw much wisdom there.  Thank you both.

This thread will now be closed.  If anyone stands opposed - that's why we have an Alley - I'll meet you there.  Gen, You know how to reach me if that's your wish, and thank you.

~peace out~


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