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'I Have A Dream'

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Marge Tindal
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'I Have A Dream'
~Marge Tindal~ 2000


He believed in the dream.
His purpose well-taken.
The world of his people
repeatedly shaken.

He had a dream.
Learn what he tried to teach.
A dream of peace
within our reach.

He had a dream,
far from being realized yet.
Peace among us all,
no cause for regret.

We still have a dream
to rise to the call.
Walk the land together ...
with liberty and justice for all.

*Excerpt from Martin Luther King, Jr's speech.

I Have a Dream...
"...that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.' I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today."





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1 posted 01-17-2000 11:19 AM       View Profile for SnglDad   Email SnglDad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SnglDad

I have a dream too.
That one day all white, men,woman and children will no longer be held responsible
for all that the past generations have put
the African Americans through.



[This message has been edited by SnglDad (edited 01-19-2000).]
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2 posted 01-17-2000 12:13 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Marge, this is so inspiring....he was truly a giant among the human race. His contributions will never be forgotten. Everything he stood for is admirable and something we should all strive for in our lives. Everytime I hear his speech, his 'dream', I am once again filled with such a feeling of peace and hope that we will one day reach that goal and fulfill that dream.

Thanks for sharing this, Marge! Very appropriate, I believe, on this or any other day.



 Denise

And slight is the sting of his trouble
Whose winnings are less than his worth;
For he who is honest is noble,
Whatever his fortunes or birth.~~~Alice Cary, ~Nobility~

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I have to agree with SnglDad.
I had left my comment out but after reading
the other replies,I felt I should say something.
I dont think that anyone should have MLK and his speeches pushed on them any more than anyone should have KKK and their speeches,
pushed on them.
And there is no way in hell that MLK and George Washington should ever be used in the same sentence together.
One is the Father of our country and the other was a leader of his kind and only his kind.
And Ron it is a holiday for those states that
wish to celebrate it.
The last time I checked South Carolina was one of our 50 states and they dont celebrate
MLK`s birthday.



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The quote is obviously meant to add depth and understanding to the poem, and certainly falls within "fair use" doctrine. More importantly, neither the poem nor the quote (or anything within the entire speech) can easily be seen as an "attack" against anyone. Rather than promote hate, the intention was to promote an absence of hate - which I see as a significant if subtle point.

Those who are old enough to have lived through those turbulent and often violent times might recall that the occasion of this famous speech was one of the few truly peaceful demonstrations we saw at that time. That, more than anything I think, bespeaks of its intent. Whether you agree with the theme of the speech or of the poem is largely irrelevant - the Congress that American citizens elected thought it important enough to warrant a national holiday. That makes the poem no different than a celebration of Abe Lincoln or George Washington. Some might arguably see MLK's speech as an attack against a race, but it would be equally easy to argue the Gettysburg Address was a glorification of war. Fortunately, the majority of people realize both were invitations to peace.

The poem is a wonderful tribute, Marge, and a reminder of why this day should be important to all of us.
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A wonderful tribute, Marge,  to both the man and the dream of peace he had.  I agree with Ron, I find the graphic and the "speech" add to the depth of the piece, and help show the inspiration.  Beautifully done.

Michael
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Wonderful poem Marge--I echo Michael on this.

 In the dew of little things,
the heart finds its morning
and is refreshed.
(ee cummings)
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I also echo Michael and Ron's sentiments. It is hard for me to find fault with a man who preaches non-violence as a means to secure peace and equal rights for his people, be it MLK, Chinese dissidents, Ghandi or anyone around the world who simply wants the same basic rights as others. Excellent work, Marge.
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I'm trying to say it carefully here.
I see how far the replies are apart.
A man who loves peace is a good man.
I agree with Ron, Michael, Balladeer and Martie.
Give peace a chance.
In all that excitement I forgot to say no matter what. A nice poem you have written Marge, I like it a lot. Not that I was overly exited about the discussion. It was about your poem  


 The ability to describe life with words is similar to painting a picture; both can be powerful tools.  





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Marge,
A dream is a dream, is a dream,
God bless the peaceful dreamers.
But I fear never the less,it is a dream.
*L* Sy
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I think most of you have only read parts of
what MLK had to say in his speeches.
First off, If you read up on MLK a little
more than you have, you will see that he
believed that all races should some day be as one.
Now being a father of 3 I do not wish to have
any of my kids marry out of their race.
This is not only my feeling but the feeling of many of my friends as well,and growing
up in a big town have friends of many different nationalities.

[This message has been edited by SnglDad (edited 01-18-2000).]
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I am stunned by the variety of responses here.  It brings home to me even more, why MLK wished for peace.  I agree with dsnyder, Ron, Michael, Martie, Balladeer, and HelmutB.

Ah, Seymour, I fear your words are too wise.

And even in my own life, I have learned that there is little justice in this world, no matter what subject you are speaking of.

Marge, your poem was lovely.  A thoughtful, meaningful poem, well worded.  Thank you for sharing it.
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12 posted 01-17-2000 08:23 PM       View Profile for SnglDad   Email SnglDad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SnglDad

I too think that you have done a
very nice job Marge as a writer.
Im sorry that I can`t agree with all of the replies.
I do wish for peace but not if it means that I have to sacrifice my own belief.

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A great man with a great message which was heard around the world. Non-violence, peace, the dignity and worth of all men and equality. All universal ideals. One man greatly influenced the world, but there is still a long road ahead. Marge, a very beautiful tribute
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Awesome Marge......Done so well

 Drive it like you stole it...LOL And another thing...When I rev my engine I want people to think the world is coming to a end....hehehe


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well i would like to stay out of the contoversy here and just leave a comment of the poem itself which i think is great marge.......enjoyed it a lot thanks....
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There is only one race here
the human one you see
for you cannot tell the color
of the skin that envelopes me

God did not make us the same
we are free verse and rhyme
and knowing this do you think
He'd make only one color at a time

Judge me not by the color of my skin
judge me by my the goodness of soul
live with me, as I do you
together, one world as a whole

You may have an opinion
that's different some time
but that's ok, because you see
we are free verse
we are rhyme


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Marge, this poem is grand, and I thank you for sharing it here. Share it with the world, I say. Be assured that Dr. King's words, his actions, his life, continue to speak to us all, whether we hear it in the joyous  beating of our hearts, or in the darkened, culpable pounding of our consciences.

Dear LadyClaire

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Marge, EXELLENT girl!   Devine one what can I say, YOU SAID IT!!  God created all the races, and wishes us to live in harmony, it matters not what's on the outside, but what is on the inside!!
God Bless America!

 <*\\\><
Where there is faith,
there is love.
Where there is love,
there is peace.
Where there is peace,
there is GOD.
Where there is GOD,
there is no need.

Hallmark


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Marge...what a lovely and fitting tribute to a man who accomplished more in his short 39 years than some of us will accomplish in our lifetime  
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Denise-
Having been inspired also by the quest for peace by Martin Luther King, Jr.,among others, I am glad that you also feel that the reach for peace is worthy of our efforts. Thank you, my friend.

Ron-
What a remarkable response. It's obvious that you, are not only knowledgable of Martin Luther King, Jr's entire speech, but of the significance of our country's attention to perserving the rights and freedoms of us all. I thank you, my friend.

Michael-
You are most perceptive in your grasp of the 'inspiration' behind my poem.
My admiration of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s
dedication to his 'dream' is my inspiration.
Bless you, Michael.

Martie-
Thank you, my friend.  I am personally pleased that you found the poem, the graphic and the quote of Martin Luther King, Jr., to also be significant.

Balladeer-
Wow !
Non-violence, peace, equal rights, and basic rights ... pretty powerful reasons for a cause, huh?
I will always hope that someone comes
along to continue 'dreaming' the 'dream'
that Martin Luther King, Jr. aspired to.

Helmut Becker-
'Peace deserves a chance'
LET IT BEGIN WITH ME !
Thank you my dear friend.

Seymour-
God DOES bless the peaceful dreamers.
In due time, may we all be equally blessed.
Thank you, my friend.

Rosemary-
Oh that we could all be 'seekers of peace'
as strongly as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others have been.
Someday, it will come.  We all carry the
torch within us to make it happen.
Thanks to you and Dale.

Elizabeth, my friend-
Yes, I agree ... 'the road is long',
but never too long. I'm in condition ...
how 'bout you gal?

First_Knight-
It's an 'awesome' goal for sure.
Thank you, my friend.

CatsLair-
Thank you for liking what I wrote.

PoetdeVine-
What a sensitive and touching poem.
My, it deserves a post of it's own.
Thank you for your wonderful thoughts.

MeadowMuse-
How wonderful are your views on this.
Thank you.

WhiteDove-
God Blesses America for sure.
Peace and harmony hold hands.
Glad to join hands with so many wonderful
people in the cause.

Hoot-
So true, my friend.  So very, very true.
Thirty nine years ... most of it spent
stiving for equality and peace.  We should all be so inspired.

********************************************

I thank my lucky stars and my God that I live in a land where someone can have an opinion that differs from mine and that I don't have to sacrifice MY beliefs to accommodate them.

I believe the quote from Gibbon states:

'I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinion I have no respect.'

So, I won't.
~Marge~


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I do not see what is wrong with living in peace together with each other. PoetdeVine you have said it so nicely. It's doesn't matter of what colour we are, we are all human. To live side by side in peace can this not be "To be one"?
They say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" John Lennon
neither am I


 The ability to describe life with words is similar to painting a picture; both can be powerful tools.  



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Hi Marge. Wonderful poem and tribute to a man who deserves to be remembered. And to some repliers: What? Someone marry out of their race? Last time I checked, we were all human beings. Looks like what Public Enemy once said was true: we have fear of a black planet. Bigotry is a much more subtle things these days -- it doesn't have to be as in your face as KKK to be racist.

Mike, whose hot button hath been pushed  
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SNGL DAD...WOW...THIS IS A REPLY TO YOU...FIRST OFF..OPEN POETRY WELCOMES ALL..OPEN...SECOND AS A MARINE...AS A PERSON..I AM SHOCKED STILL BY MANY PEOPLES THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ON RACE...WE ALL HAVE A HEART AND A SOUL...THUS IF YOU DO ANY RESEARCH ON ANYTHING LIVING ...WE ARE THE ONLY SPECIES THAT FRETS ON SUCH PETTY THINGS...WHAT IF WE WERE BLIND...WE'D PROBALY DISCRIMINATE ON SMELL... SOMETIMES I WONDER WHY WE ARE EVEN FIGHTING FOR ANYTHING...BUT AS REPRESENTITVES OF YOUR COUNTRY...FIRST OFF I HAVE TO RESPECT YOUR OPINION... BUT KEEP IN MIND THE WORD OPEN... TRY TO BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN MINDED.MARGE AWESOME...THATS WHY THE FEW US FIGHT FOR THIS AWESOME COUNTRY... IN HOPES OF LIVING OUT THE DREAM OF EVERY AMERICAN...
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Marge, I love the poem and the sentiment. Peace is a lofty but worthy goal. I agree that as an ancestor of a DWEM (dead white european male) that I as a person should not be held accountable for things that happened to other races way back in the day. All I can do is try to treat people the way I want to be treated regardless of skin color, ethnic background, religious affiliation, vocal accent, hair color, style, clothing one wishes to wear (or not wear), or food one wishes to eat. I would love to be able to sit at a table with diverse people and talk and learn things from them and maybe they can learn from me as well without confrontation. So far the only place I have ever seen that kind of diversity is at the Mission on Thanksgiving when I was in a serving line. It was very enlightening. All these people with one common goal. To eat, be clothed and sheltered. If I was homeless believe me I couldn't care less what the person sleeping in the bunk next to me looked like. Life is just too short for all the little predjudices that seem to abound. Anyway I'm off my box now....sorry I really wanted to get that out. Great job on the piece and the graphics.

 Poetry~ Words falling on paper, painting a dream.

Shawna R. Holder
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