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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US 
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In July, 2002, our twin web servers, Apollo and Artemis, went on-line and have served our poetic community faithfully ever since. But six years is an awfully long time in this computer age where, according to Moore's Law, the trend is for our electronics to improve exponentially, doubling every two years. That essentially means that today's computers are roughly eight times more powerful than our aging twins. Even the Greek gods didn't last forever. Sometime in the next few weeks, pipTalk.com will be moving to a new server. In all honestly, I've put this off for about as long as I dare. The amount of data in our database is prodigious, and the prospect of moving it to a new computer is daunting. However, for that very reason, I can no longer afford to delay. The 18.2 Gigabyte SCSI hard disk on Artemis is, literally, almost overflowing with poetry. We're running out of places to put stuff. I've spent the past several weeks writing scripts to automate the process of moving bytes, reassigning ownership, setting permissions, and all the other various functions required to move the forums. Very soon, probably by this coming weekend, we'll be ready. I don't have an exact date and time yet. Obviously, the forums will be closed during the move. Less obviously, since we're moving to a new computer and a new IP address, the forums will remain closed even after the move is complete, while we wait for the Domain Name System (DNS) to be updated. The last time we moved that took several days, with some people not finding the new server for nearly a week. Technology has improved since those days, however, and DNS usually takes less than an hour. So, with any luck, we'll be down no more than three or four hours. I have a lot of admiration for Moore's Law, but I have a lot of respect and downright fear for Murphy's. If you have anything in the forums that you haven't already backed up on your own computer (shame on you), now would the time to do that. I think the chance of losing any data is infinitesimally small. But that never seems to matter to Murphy. Stuff happens. Make darn sure it doesn't happen to you. |
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Artic Wind Member Rara Avis
since 2007-09-16
Posts 8080Realm of Supernatural |
Will the site be the same as it is now? Like nothing different?  ARCTIC WIND |
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SEA 
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
thank you Ron, for letting us know. For sure going to check and make sure I have a copy of stuff. Murphy will find me if I don't  |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
quote: Nope. She'll be faster. |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
Thanks for the heads-up, Ron. OF course, I've never saved anything on this new computer, and no longer have access to the old one.  BOOHOO. Does this mean I must 'open' then copy everything individually? Is there a fast/quick/easy way to do this????I may just go in and grab a small handful of favorites and leave the rest to Murphy's whims! Most of it can blow in the dust and not be missed anyway.  |
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Just.Another.Falling.Star Member
since 2008-05-08
Posts 422Canada |
Will the site's web address still be www.piptalk.com or will that change too? ~*Julianna*~ |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Kacy, I think if you were to do a search on your name for your poetry, you'll be able to copy fairly easily everything you've ever written. Provided it gets done before the weekend, of course! |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
Karilea, I suppose each post would have to 'open' to be able to save it? Sigh, it would be GREAT to just click forum full of title, but can't imagine how the write would save that way. I'm hallucinating, right? Seriously, I will start this task this afternoon! |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
LOL...yep! But at least you'll have all of the titles and forums in front of you, and that helps a great deal! But I'll bet if Ron knows a faster way, he'll share! |
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Kit McCallum
Administrator
Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
It sounds like you've been a busy man, Ron ... but that is no surprise, lol Good luck with the upcoming move. I hope everything goes smoothly. Of course, I do have one question. Does your new server have his/her new name yet?  |
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Falling rain
since 2008-01-31
Posts 2178Small town, Illinois |
Wait.. So your teling me I have to copy and save all my poems on my computer?? If so.. I better get working on that.. *sigh* ~Zach~ "And so the lion fell in love with the lamb....,"he murmured. "What a stupid lamb," I sighed. "What a sick, masochistic lion." |
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SEA
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
no Zach, you don't have to. Only if you want to, and for just in case. If you already have them on your computer or in a notebook, then no worries. If you are worried that you posted something directly on here and don't have a copy then I would for sure copy what you don't have. |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
sounds like a great plan, I hope it goes well for you with out m/any hiccups..... ~~**~~ I never let one moment define me, I define myself by all moments and how they teach and touch me......02 |
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Alison
since 2008-01-27
Posts 9318Lumpy oatmeal makes me crazy! |
Ron, Thank you so much for creating PiP and for working so hard to keep it going. I am so happy here. Alison |
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Nan
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
So you'll be coming up for air around about Monday?.. |
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The Shadow in Blue Member
since 2006-05-18
Posts 493EL, Michigan |
God Speed Ron. Your site is a blessing. Thanks for your time and efforts. I hope good ol' no name serves us well in the future, Apollo and Artemis sure have. Oh, and if you continue the trend of paying homage to the greeks when you name the new server I suggest Socrates or Aristotle. ^_^ ~Jill |
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Kellie_Cantrell Senior Member
since 2002-05-22
Posts 1667New York |
I've never backed up my poetry from Piptalk and now would probably be a good idea. Whats the easiest way to do that? Excited about the new servers! |
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Mysteria
since 2001-03-07
Posts 18328British Columbia, Canada |
Thank you for all you do that we can see, and even more for what we don't. So, I was thinking how about honoring the mother, and naming the new server, Titaness. |
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hunnie_girl
since 2006-06-18
Posts 2567Canada |
thank gawd for the blinky thing on my screen or i would have missed this one.. |
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Joyce Johnson
since 2001-03-10
Posts 9912Washington State |
Thank you Ron. I can't imagine how much work this has been for you but I am grateful and thank you again. Joyce |
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soul drifter Senior Member
since 2004-09-08
Posts 711Colorado |
Thankfully, since I always write my stuff in advance on my computer, on Wordpad, everything is saved on my hard drive before I post here, so I'm good. But does this mean the archives are going to be reset? Shame if so...I really like going back into them and enjoying people's kind comments and encouragement for my posts. Maybe I should copy all of those comments and put 'em somewhere on my computer to keep. They always meant a lot to me. Thanks for the heads up! "In her soft wind I will whisper, in her warm sun I will glisten, till we see her once again in a world without end" -- Neil Finn |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Are we there yet? |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Soul drifter, Normally, Ron doesn't lose anything. That's why you can go into the archives all the way back to 1999. However, to be on the safe side, he always lets people know that things "can be" lost. I.e, we back up our poems on our own computers. So, once Ron opens the doors after this weekend's workout, you should see everything as it was - and sometimes, we even see some new innovations on behalf of the Web Wizard...he loves to sneak in new gadgets and tricks now and then! Serenity... it's not the weekend yet! At least, not in my neck of the woods... |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
My weekend started early.  Like...thirty years ago.  yearS, Karen. Sheesh.  ow like I needed that oy [This message has been edited by serenity blaze (07-10-2008 07:23 PM).] |
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Sunshine
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
karen  and understanding.... ~~**~~ |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
 A Friday reminder... |
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Earth Angel Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215Realms of Light |
Ron, I love this site, you, and our "family of friends" so much that I send up my thanks whenever I enter this realm of poetic expressions, kindness, and kindred spirits. pipTalk is literally the home that Ron built! I was a girl guide and our motto was to always be prepared ~ and I follow that motto to this very day! All of my 1,200 plus poems have been saved as I have written them ~ on floppies +++ ~ then each disk is burned to a CD, on my hard-drive, and all titles and dates of my poems are recorded in notebooks ~ I even have files of very special replies that I have received. Am I prepared for any eventuality? ~ Heck, YES! ~ to the point of overkill! lol I don't do anything in half measures!  May all go well with the transferring of data! You're the MAN!!! Sending lots of love ~ and added energy! ~ Oh, and some soothing potions to calm your over-taxed nerves! Linda |
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Mysteria
since 2001-03-07
Posts 18328British Columbia, Canada |
Are we there yet? |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Monday, maybe. |
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icebox Member Elite
since 2003-05-03
Posts 4383in the shadows |
You're the man! Happy trails. |
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sandgrain Member Elite
since 1999-09-21
Posts 3662Sycamore, IL, USA |
God bless you, Ron, for your care and patience of this great family. The admiration I have for all you do for us, is mindboggling since I can't even take care of my home computer properly. Thanks a million! Rae |
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Artic Wind Member Rara Avis
since 2007-09-16
Posts 8080Realm of Supernatural |
Sounds Like a Great Idea! ARCTIC WIND |
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Margherita Member Seraphic
since 2003-02-08
Posts 22236Eternity |
Thank you, dear Ron, for all of your efforts! I am so very grateful for this wonderful site. Love, Margherita |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
A bit more than 225,000 topics later . . . we're back. This is a very different web server, with a very different configuration. If anyone runs across something that doesn't seem to work correctly, please let me know. I'll be doing a bit of exploring myself and will be keeping a close eye on the forums for a while. |
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Marge Tindal
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384Florida's Foreverly Shores |
Ron~ Way to go ....... and that didn't take so long either~  *Huglets*  and much love and appreciation for what you do~heart:~*Marge*~ ~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~ |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
WAY TO GO! That downtime was barely noticeable! Thanks, Ron. WOW! The forums ZOOM so fast now!  |
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Earth Angel Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215Realms of Light |
Now, that wasn't so painful! ~ for us! Everything seems to have gone smoothly from this end! ~ and I only had to suffer from pip withdrawal for a few hours! Sigh! What a relief!  We appreciate all the work that you do to keep the PiP ship afloat! Ahoy there, Captain Ron! Giving you a warm hug and a back and neck massage compliments of yours truly. Mind you, I will have to it energetically through the ethers! lol EA |
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Sunshine
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
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icebox Member Elite
since 2003-05-03
Posts 4383in the shadows |
Bravo! Well done!!!! Thank you for your continued hard work and generosity. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
 Yay!thanks Ron! |
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Kit McCallum
Administrator
Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
WOW! I just tried a "Search" and it is SUPER fast! Wonderful Ron! So ... do she/he have a name (Mario Andretti, Speedy Gonzales perhaps), lol? Wonderful job Ron! |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
The forums are now running on Aries, Kit, a server formerly reserved for the main site. You've already met Aries. The main site is slow enough during the summer months that she can afford to share a few resources with her sibling, but I don't know how long that will last. Moving the main site to a new server, should the need arise (and it eventually will) is easy compared to an interactive forum with several gigabytes of data. |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
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Kit McCallum
Administrator
Member Laureate
since 2000-04-30
Posts 14774Ontario, Canada |
Aha! I didn't realize we had already been introduced, Ron! Welcome to the forums Aries! It looks like there will be more room for growth, and the Greek God of War took over smoothly from what I've heard. Wouldn't want to mess with him, lol. Good job Rob ... that's got to be a nice relief to have the switchover behind you. |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
It took a few more hours in my neck of the world to reconnect and all, but this is one of the smoothest transitions I've ever encountered, Ron... so Kudos, and all of the above that I left with you earlier today. The "Search" system is remarkable in time! I always thought it was "my" computer... I've not yet had to move a post or ding anyone for a discretion...but I can't wait!  You are truly the Lord of the Sites... |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
*laughing* "Lord of the Sites" Ron cringes up North and we got a cool breeze down here in N'awlins! *chuckling* So mote it be...  |
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Robert E. Jordan Member Rara Avis
since 2008-01-25
Posts 8541Philadelphia, Pennsylvania |
Ron, I didn’t notice anything, but I’m rather dull. I must be missing a lot. Thanks for the site. Bobby |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
awwwwwwwwww, Bobby, that's so sweet! (He slept through the ride!) but? tsk...we played the license plate game and everything. *pout* Here, I save ya some Frito's when we stopped for gas though. And Ron? Kari's TOUCHING me! *glare* and thanks again Ronnie!  |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
Geez.....I've been away so long that I had no idea that this happened. Ron, thanks for all the effort you put forth to keep the house in order....even for us wandering ones. ...jo |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Poking at serenity... but she made me do it, Ron!! |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
I think I've been poked at enough. *ahem* From now on, only professionals need apply! *poke* "WHAT?" "I didn't do her anything..." |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
What makes you think I'm not professional? poink poink |
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