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Marge Tindal
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100 posted 08-29-2007 04:15 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Helen~
I posted your threads in a new topic on the page ... hopefully they will take some further action today and get some of them off that I have reported~

Kacy~
Thanks ... that's just what I do ...~

~*Marge*~

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101 posted 08-29-2007 04:39 PM       View Profile for divine chaos   Email divine chaos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for divine chaos

Marge, you've been a busy little bee over there.  I just heard what was going on and went to visit, and went through every single page.  I recognize almost every single one of the ones posted in English. What morons don't change the titles when they plagiarize?  At least they made it easy to recognize them.  I added a post there to the "admin" as well.  

Thankfully I didn't find any of mine there -- but so many of the Pipster poets are there -- it's amazing.  Thank you Marge, for all you're doing for all of us.  

~Sheli~

By words the mind is winged
~Aristophanes~

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102 posted 08-29-2007 04:53 PM       View Profile for SmartChick   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit SmartChick's Home Page   View IP for SmartChick

I found some more poems that were taken from Pip. But, I couldn't figure out, how to put the links here. So I sent them to Marge in an email.

Last night, I had gone to that site to search to see if any of mine were posted there. I found one, at that time. It was one of my latest tankas. But, when I went back this morning to search some more, I couldn't find it. I have seen so many poems that sound familiar to me, but just can't remember who wrote them. This person has got some nerve.
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103 posted 08-29-2007 05:03 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Okay guys and gals ... I'm off for the night~
Let's see if they take any notice and delete even HALF of what I've alerted them to~
I added ALL of the links posted here~

I'm tired ... and will be keeping my grandie girlies tomorrow ... so if you have links you want me to add ... just post them on here and/or send them to me via email at
noles1@totcon.com and I'll get to them when I can~

Whew ... page after page after page of plagiarized poetry~

One *HUGLET* left

~*Me

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
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Have a good night, Marge! Thank you for all you have done.
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Take care, Marge. *S* And recharge that huglet supply... you'll need them for the grandie girls tomorrow! *S*

Thankie, ma'am. *S*
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106 posted 08-29-2007 05:27 PM       View Profile for Honeybunch   Email Honeybunch   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Honeybunch's Home Page   View IP for Honeybunch

Thank you so much, Marge.  You are a star!

You'll need a few hugs to replenish your store and South African ones are extra warm.  
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107 posted 08-29-2007 05:29 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

"Immaculate Reception": Total Masala: December 29, 2006

"Ebenezer Caesar (The Misunderstood Freezer Meister)": Total Masala: December 28, 2006

I just discovered this thread, so I began perusing all 115 pages of Total Masala's poetry archives, and apparently ~~~Founder~~~ attempted to plagiarize ten of my poems too, all of which were either posted or re-posted during December 2006:

"Ebenezer Caesar (The Misunderstood Freezer Meister)" (Premiere Posting: December 8, 2005)

"Ebenezer Caesar (The Misunderstood Freezer Meister)" Original Studio Recording MP3: December 9, 2005

"Immaculate Reception": (Premiere Posting: December 16, 2005)

"Immaculate Reception" Original Studio Recording MP3: December 16, 2005

Little does the offender know that both "Ebenezer Caesar (The Misunderstood Freezer Meister)" and "Immaculate Reception" were not only Christmas anthems I wrote over one year before this incident; they are both jingles I recorded in the studio room at KBOO Community Radio that exact same holiday season

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"Gegenschein": Total Masala: December 26, 2006

"Gegenschein": (Premiere Posting: December 2, 2006)

"Giving Without Remembering, Taking Without Forgetting": Total Masala: December 28, 2006

"Giving Without Remembering, Taking Without Forgetting" (Premiere Posting: December 23, 2005)

"Frankincense Is Not A Monster": Total Masala: December 28, 2006

"Frankincense Is Not A Monster": (Premiere Posting: December 18, 2007)

"Dance Dance Christmas": Total Masala: December 28, 2006

"Dance Dance Christmas": (Premiere Posting: December 19, 2006)

"Lil' Tipsy Tinkertoe": Total Masala: December 28, 2006

"Lil' Tipsy Tinkertoe": (Premiere Posting: December 21, 2006)

"Poinsettia": December 27, 2006

"Poinsettia": (Premiere Posting: December 13, 2003)

"Heavenly Star (Duet With Bill Charles)": Total Masala: December 27, 2006

"Heavenly Star (Duet With Bill Charles)": (Premiere Posting: December 19, 2001)

In addition, the offender plagiarized "Gegenschein", the seventh poem in my "Dance Dance Revolutionary" concept poetry set, "Giving Without Remembering, Taking Without Forgetting", a Christmas song I wrote a year in advance, "Frankincense Is Not A Monster", a Christmas song I wrote ten days before it showed up at Total Masala, "Dance Dance Christmas", a Christmas song I wrote nine days before it showed up at Total Masala, "Lil' Tipsy Tinkertoe", a Christmas poem I wrote seven days before it showed up at Total Masala, "Poinsettia", a Christmas poem I originally wrote and posted three years before it showed up at Total Masala and has been through several re-writes since, and a duet with Bill Charles titled "Heavenly Star", which was originally composed and posted a whopping five years before it showed up on Total Masala.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton


"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"

Mother Teresa
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108 posted 08-29-2007 05:56 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

My Reaction To Plagiarism Instances: Total Masala: August 29, 2007

I have responded publicly on Total Masala in a diplomatic yet forceful and serious tone, regarding the nine counts of plagiarism.

Y'all can read my entry at the link above.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton


"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"

Mother Teresa

[This message has been edited by Mistletoe Angel (08-29-2007 07:08 PM).]

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109 posted 08-29-2007 06:20 PM       View Profile for divine chaos   Email divine chaos   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for divine chaos

I found the poetry site where many of the poems posted in foreign language, as well as some of the English posted poems came from.  I posted to them to let them know -- so maybe they will join the party.  

~sheli~
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110 posted 08-29-2007 09:18 PM       View Profile for secondhanddreampoet   Email secondhanddreampoet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for secondhanddreampoet

just from the 1st. hundred pages of that abominable website:

My poetry has been ‘pirated’ all over that damn website by ‘UserName’: FOUNDER!!....some (of the HUGE number of ) examples (likely just the ‘tip of the iceberg’!) with the exact posting dates as proof of 'piracy'/copywrite violation:

when laughter's gone! - Secondhanddreampoet:   11-24-2006    Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11308-when-laughters-gone.html    12-31-2006


dream girl  - secondhanddreampoet: 11-25-2006    Open Poetry #39
  http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11317-dream-girl.html      12-31-2006


p. 53: (on the totalmasala  site)

love's redemption  - secondhanddreampoet: 11-24-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11358-loves-redemption.html    12-31-2006


p.54: (on the totalmasala  site)

'reality'......for those who lack 'imagination'?! – secondhanddreampoet: 11-26-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11316-reality-those-who-lack-imagination.html[/UR   L]
  12-31-2006

p. 55: (on the totalmasala  site):

when laughter's gone! – secondhanddreampoet:  11-24-2006    Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11308-when-laughters-gone.html    
  12-31-2006

p. 56: (this one is NOT mine, but definitely ‘pirated’!!):
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11255-ask-lady-luna-duet-karilea.html

p. 60: http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11201-new-love-life.htm


p. 62: (on the totalmasala  site):

finding true love – secondhanddreampoet: 11-30-2006  Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11162-finding-true-love.html    12-29-2006

p. 63 (This is a Marge Tindal ‘write’): http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11141-your-ink.html  
p. 64 (‘piracy’ of sunshine’s work): [URL=http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11120-prayers-wing-duet-sunshine.html]http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11120-prayers-wing-duet-sunshine.html

p. 75: (on the totalmasala  site):

Memories of Love -  secondhanddreampoet: 12-12-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10885-memories-love.html    12-28-2006

p. 85     on the totalmasala  site): http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10681-monkey-business.htm

p. 86: (on the totalmasala  site):

Moonshadows! – secondhanddreampoet: 12-20-2006  Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10649-moonshadows.html    12-28-2006
p. 87:
Decembers Remembered  - secondhanddreampoet: 12-21-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10640-decembers-remembered.html    12-28-2006

p. 88:
Fossilized ?! – secondhanddreampoet: 12-21-2006  Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10615-fossilized.html    12-28-2006

p. 41: (on the totalmasala  site):

slice of life - secondhanddreampoet : 11-13-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11670-slice-life.html    01-10-2007

p.42     on the totalmasala  site):

aftermath  - secondhanddreampoet:  11-14-2006   Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11642-aftermath.html    01-10-2007

p. 45: (on the totalmasala  site):

a place called 'Once Upon'....... - secondhanddreampoet :11-27-2006  Open Poetry #39
http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11591-place-called-once-upon.html      01-10-2007
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I covered an additional 19 pages tonight in my request for deletions ... hopefully they will be followed through on~

If you guys send me the links through the PiP email system ... the URL's are deleted from the email ... so either post them here or email me directly~

I'll get to more when I can~

Nite all~
*Huglets* (thanks gals n' guys for pumping me up)

~*Marge*~


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112 posted 08-30-2007 12:24 AM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel



You're doing great, Marge! God Bless You for all your hard work and dedication in defending so many poets rightful property here! Your heartful efforts are wholeheartedly appreciated by all of us here, so I thank you from the bottom of my heart!



In case anyone is interested, I have blogged on the plagiarism issue, with my entry at the link below:

Noah Eaton's Blog "The peppermint Picayune": "Je Reprends Mon Bien Ou Je Le Trouve": August 29, 2007

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Sincerely,
Noah Eaton


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Mother Teresa
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113 posted 08-30-2007 07:21 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal


Whoopie ... we ARE making some progress here ... this is the message posted by Administrator GURU -
quote:
Re: Short Message from Admin

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello,

Thank you every one of you and apologize for those posts, Kindly refer to Thread URLs instead of page numbers, because Page numbers keep changing, if you would add a reply to that thread it is much easier to remove (like "RealPost" is doing)

Regards
Admin Team
Now, let's keep them busy~
I will try to find a moment to get some of the pirated posts bumped up so that they can be found easier~

But for most of the day my attention will be right here playing with my little Landry Leigh and Delaney (when she gets back from kindergarten)

IF you see YOUR poems on the site ... EMAIL me directly at noles1@totcon.com or post the links here on this thread and I will tend to it, as time allows, with a *bump up*~

Have a beautiful day poets~
LOL ... of course Guru is referring to my user ID at that site ... but it's RealPOET, not RealPOST !!!
*HUGLETS*
~*Marge*~


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I bumped about a page and a half of stuff just real quick before work.  They got Sy, Dark Stranger, howard, Lady, and I'm pretty sure one of them was serenity's .. passing shadows too ... I was skimming to find the styles that I recognize most readily.  I'll be back to help after work

~Sheli~

By words the mind is winged
~Aristophanes~

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I appreciate the help I've been getting over at that site~

Poetess and Irate Poet and any others that have registered and are BUMPING poems so that Guru (and apparently Guru is a woman, according to an interesting post on who she is that I found)~
http://www.totalmasala.com/pics-n-vids/12566-people-most-welcome-inquisitive-about-my-life.html

We'll get it done yet !!!
*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

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116 posted 08-30-2007 09:13 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Very interesting, indeed. She says she does nothing that disturbs her conscience, so apparently, she finds this piracy act acceptable....
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117 posted 08-30-2007 09:16 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

1. Identify with specificity the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed upon.
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11854-meltdown-again.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11849-she-bites-wind.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11087-autumn-senryus.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11319-malachite-hand.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10641-permafrosted-memories.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11107-cosmic-duet-secondhandreampoet.html
> http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10833-waterfall-love-duet-second-hand-dream-poet.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10495-climbing-into-the-future.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11280-sublime.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11736-submerged.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11747-liabilities-love.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11743-blow-the-bloody-trees.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11712-rain-walking.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11666-candlelight-memories.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11373-path-grandmother-chose.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10856-mt-palomar-moon-questing.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10838-bill-rights-remembering-chipmunk-roared.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/11637-revisiting-albatross.html
hthttp://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10650-monkey-business-part-2-a.html http://www.totalmasala.com/poetry-world/10770-3-am.html
one of these I believe was our wredgranny...who hasn't been around for a while
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Funny thing about GURU,  in her profile, she
was borh in Nov of 85..and in the article
that was supposedly written by her,  she is
either 30 0r 31...which would mean she was
born in 75. Oh well,  does appear the main
individuals are all relatively young, 20s
and 30s....and are not overly excited about
this ordeal (for us)
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119 posted 08-30-2007 09:55 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Kacy~
I entered all of those for you on a deletion thread ...and also some that our Diamond sent to me~

Something I found interesting in Guru's post was the fact that she mentions being a Miss Universe~  Velly interesting, indeed~

*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

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120 posted 08-30-2007 10:12 AM       View Profile for sewasham   Email sewasham   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for sewasham

Well, it looks like slowly things are starting to get cleaned up on the other site. Mine have finally been removed after several exchanges with their site administrator. Hopefully all of the pirated work will soon be gone. Take care and Have fun. Steve

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Steve~
MY thanks to you for bringing this to our attention~
~*Marge*~

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
Email -     noles1@totcon.com   

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Marge, if you click the "more" link at the bottom of her "introduction"  .... he's all copied and pasted from an interview conducted with the girl who actually was in the miss universe pageant .. lol .. I'd say that's all stolen too lmao
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123 posted 08-30-2007 11:29 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Hey ... I vote for a name change for the site ... how's about MESS-A-PLAGIARIZED-POETRY.COM ?

Fresh out of laughs ~
~*Marge*~

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
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124 posted 08-30-2007 11:58 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

I'd like to demand a current legitimate photo of this character named 'Guru' and maybe the others named 'founder' and 'boomer' as well. They may in fact be one-and-the-same.
THANKS LADY MARGE!
Go Noles!!!!
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