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50 posted 08-28-2007 08:44 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Marge, please read your email asap.
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51 posted 08-28-2007 09:12 AM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

I went there to look but I have no idea how to see if anything of mine was there?? I hope they shut this down!!
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52 posted 08-28-2007 09:41 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

MidnightSun~
I haven't received anything from you ... try again ?

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
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53 posted 08-28-2007 09:42 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Oh, this frosts me! I haven't got all day to sit and copy things, but already found at least 8, plus two duets! I haven't time to read everything, but these are under guru, boomer, and founder.
So, they are making a great deal of money off our writings and linking us to questionable sites, probably SELLING our names, email links, and maybe printing our things in books,as theirs?
Edward, hacking their site might be faster than legal methods but isn't a good idea...at the very least, the ISP and Google should take immediate action to shut them down.
I shall start writing my name on each write, to make it easier to prove authorship!!!


[This message has been edited by Midnitesun (08-29-2007 08:26 AM).]

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54 posted 08-28-2007 09:54 AM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

Kacy,  how do you embed a name? That seems
to be a possibility...

Barry
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55 posted 08-28-2007 09:57 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Folks ... while I'll be the first to fess up that patience is a virtue that I am not known to possess ... however ... I have come  to know that the world isn't going to come to an end before this is taken care of~

Diligently staying on top of the situation is something we all can do ... and I'm sure that at some point Ron Carnell will step in here and let us know that he is also handling it~
He's the Cyber-Space guru that knows the ins and outs of the situation and how to handle it~

Deep breaths ... and don a little patience ... it WILL get taken care of~
I'm confident of that !

*Huglets* to all~
~*Marge*~

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56 posted 08-28-2007 09:59 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

oh now I am maddddd
somehow my email is all locked up
I cannot open a single email
am going to call a techie

Barry, I just mean
that I will now post my name on each write,
and make it easier to spot them
cuz sometimes I forget what I write!
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57 posted 08-28-2007 10:10 AM       View Profile for Gentle Spirit   Email Gentle Spirit   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Gentle Spirit

omg...am at work now but I will have to go searching when I get home.  I can't believe the nerve of some people.....Thanks for the heads up.
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58 posted 08-28-2007 10:19 AM       View Profile for 1slick_lady   Email 1slick_lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit 1slick_lady's Home Page   View IP for 1slick_lady

BE VERY CAREFUL AT THAT SITE
when I went there my virus scanner said it had a Trojan Horse
Kacy that might be what’s wrong with your e mail
I hope not
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59 posted 08-28-2007 10:30 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Kacy~
I just got email from you ... so apparently it is working ???

I've been all over that site on four different computers and no problems with any 'virus' invasion~

Have a good rest-of-the-day, folks~

*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

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60 posted 08-28-2007 10:48 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Be careful about anything you do at that site!!!! It is sending out viruses and spy SW to capture your info as it can....Sigh,  totalmasala is directly tied to AdSense and Google, and maybe the only way to stop them is through pressure...MASS pressure, on Google...to shut them down. They are making tons of money every time we click on that site, they get paid by the number of 'hits' they get.
I think the problem is cleared now Marge,
but it is getting past some firewalls and spyware, even got past Norton last night.

follow this for more info: http://www.nlpc.org/iprp.asp
National Legal Policy Center

[This message has been edited by Midnitesun (08-28-2007 12:13 PM).]

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61 posted 08-28-2007 11:46 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

go and read the NLPC articles (many) relating to Google and internet piracy.....
this is a tiny exerpt...(hope I am NOT violating anyone..if this is a problem, moderators may delete this an leave it to the first sentence for info)

quote:
NLPC plans to update the Top 50 list periodically with new potentially infringing content. While NLPC has chosen not to post the actual links to the potentially infringing content so as to not contribute further to intellectual property theft, screenshots of all of the content will be included and links to the content will be shared with members of the media and copyright owners if requested.

"It's difficult to know for sure whether all of the content included in the Top 50 list is being hosted in violation of copyright laws – NLPC makes no assertions -- but it's a reasonable assumption that much of the content has been uploaded without the copyright owner's knowledge or approval," added Boehm. "Some of the content may be appropriate but it's a safe bet that content companies don't know or approve of blockbusters like Blood Diamond or recent releases like 300 being readily available on the video sharing sites," said Boehm.

Recently Google has come under increased scrutiny for allowing allegedly copyrighted material to be posted on its video sharing sites. The company faces numerous lawsuits from copyright owners and this past March became the subject of a $1 billion lawsuit from Viacom alleging that Google/YouTube had been willfully infringing copyrights on a huge scale for allegedly hosting more than 150,000 unauthorized clips of Viacom's copyrighted programs. While the company has been promising for months that it will soon release a new system for copyright owners to remove allegedly, infringing files, many smaller companies have already developed automated copyright filtration processes. Late last month, TorrentSpy announced that its website will no longer require DMCA take down notices to be filed by copyright owners before links to copyrighted material are removed.

"Google has been dragging its feet for months in coming up with a solution to pirated content and still requires copyright owners to go through the laborious process of issuing DMCA take down notices before the content is removed while smaller companies are beginning to show real leadership on this issue. The content in our first Top 50 list has been hosted on Google Video for an average of 168 days, so its obvious to us that they are not taking this seriously. We hope that by making this database available at the very least we might be able to shame Google into policing itself and removing copyrighted content it does not own and has no right to include on its sites," said Boehm.

The National Legal and Policy Center is a not-for-profit organization focused on ethics and accountability in public life and private business. The organization is a strong supporter of intellectual property rights and believes that enforceable property rights are the basis of any functioning market economy
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62 posted 08-28-2007 12:55 PM       View Profile for ThisDiamond   Email ThisDiamond   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit ThisDiamond's Home Page   View IP for ThisDiamond

Hey Folks,
I wrote to Ron, and made sure he was aware of what is happening.
Please see his reply, and also read the links provided.  We may need to discuss our next steps together, and agree jointly of what we wish to do.


Reply from Ron:
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I am aware of it, yes, but I fear I have little additional guidance to offer, TD. Only the owner of a copyright can take the necessary steps to protect it, so its always up to each individual author to do what must be done. Each writer also has to decide how much time they want to invest because, trust me, based on past experience, it's a never-ending challenge.

Here are some past threads that those interested should definitely read. Pay particular attention to Kit's posts . . . http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum29/HTML/000175.html http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum29/HTML/000875.html http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum1/HTML/000685.html
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63 posted 08-28-2007 01:19 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

There is no one even at that site (masala) to complain to!  These are set up to generate income only for those setting them up, if you read what these AdSense sites are for.  

What you need to do is write to Google at these two links and complain about the misuse of that site.  They are using your poetry to generate income.  Please read information at the following links on how to report violations.  Copy and paste the link below into your browser:

https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9894&topic=145

https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=18386

https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=18386&topic=8424

I can't speak for Ron, but unless they "borrowed" his own poetry, he can't go and do anything about them "borrowing" yours, you will have to do that yourself.  

Just bombard them - it may work at getting that site removed.  That will work until next  time.

Oh, here is their email address as well:  inside-adsense@google.com
    
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64 posted 08-28-2007 02:17 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

Ahah, why do I suspect no one is at the end of this email either   This is what I got back when I sent in my complaint about copyright issues:

Hi there,

Thanks for writing in! We read through every email we receive and we're
looking forward to reading yours. While we can't promise that we'll be
able to get back to you, we'd like to thank you for your support and
encourage you to keep reading our blog.

If you're writing because you have questions about your AdSense account,
feel free to visit our Help Center at
https://www.google.com/support/adsense or ask other publishers in our Help
Forum at http://groups.google.com/group/adsense-help?utm_source=txbd.

Thank you,

The Inside AdSense Team
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65 posted 08-28-2007 02:21 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

However, this looks a little more promising and this one I sent to adsense-abuse@google.com

We've received your email alerting us to a potential policy violation on a
site displaying Google ads. Although we're unable to respond to individual
reports, we have forwarded your email to our team of specialists for
further investigation.

We appreciate your help in maintaining the quality of the AdSense program.


Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
adsense-abuse@google.com

Maybe use that one!

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66 posted 08-28-2007 02:26 PM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

http://www.google.com/dmca.html

another Google page to read http://www.google.com/adsense_dmca.html

and this link regarding the issue
which is hard to get to for some reason! travelsketch.blogspot.com/2007/04/google-fails-to-stop-theft-and-abuse-by.html
]http://travelsketch.blogspot.com/2007/04/google-fails-to-stop-theft-and-abus e-by.html.
maybe being stopped by google.....

[This message has been edited by Midnitesun (08-28-2007 02:57 PM).]

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67 posted 08-28-2007 03:02 PM       View Profile for Kellie_Cantrell   Email Kellie_Cantrell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kellie_Cantrell

I've spent some time going through the site and found other peoples work, I haven't seen any of mine, yet but if you do see some of mine please let me know. I have a lawyer looking into this already. He's trying to figure a way we could go at this class-action and take care of it in one big swoop. He says he can't help me unless i have proof that something of mine is there which i havent seen, but we are working on it.
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68 posted 08-28-2007 03:10 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

I posted this one the other thread that ThisDiamond posted in the Suggestion Box Forum~
quote:
How come a code like this found at this site wouldn't serve the purpose of stopping anyone from RIGHT CLICKING to copy the poems ?

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/noright.htm

People stealing are copy and pasting ... they are not taking the time to write out the poems at length ... would this prevent them from doing that ?

~*Marge*~
Of course that code would prevent anyone from copying the material, even the poet who owned the poem, but it might deter the actions that we've seen happening ... the theives are not going to take the time to hand type the entire poems out ... nah, they be too lazy for that~
~*Marge*~
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69 posted 08-28-2007 03:16 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

too lazy, sheesh, for sure....to lazy to even
think up the lines to a poem, no matter how
crude it might be.  Marge,  you all have been
working hard and your and others who have worked on this deserve a round of applause
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70 posted 08-28-2007 03:23 PM       View Profile for The Lady   Email The Lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for The Lady



I am with Barry! Thank you to all of you!
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71 posted 08-28-2007 03:38 PM       View Profile for suthern   Email suthern   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for suthern

Mysteria: I now have a response matching the one you got from reporting adsense abuse... Even if they won't respond to an individual, if they get a volume of complaints, maybe they'll act.

Marge: I definitely want to stop the thieves... would love to slow roast them, for that matter *G*... but if there's a chance of something being implemented that will keep even the author from copying their work, I need to get busy copying/printing some poems. LOL I know Ron's told us a million times or so to keep copies of our work just in case... but... he's not lost any of mine yet and I'm bone lazy. LOL This may actually light a fire under my own procrastinating rear! *G*
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72 posted 08-28-2007 03:41 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

Marge, I mentioned this code to Ron. I went to the site you provided and within seconds I managed to copy and paste their so-called "protected" script. They are right in that I cannot right click to copy. But I could highlight the script to copy (ctrl c) then paste it on a word processor (ctrl v).

Maybe there's a stronger code we can find.

Magnus is right, I applaud your efforts. We'll think of something.

[Edit - Illegal activity suggestions deleted (for the second time, Ed, please don't try for a third) - Ron]


I'll keep you guys posted.  


[This message has been edited by Ron (08-28-2007 07:55 PM).]

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73 posted 08-28-2007 04:11 PM       View Profile for Grinch   Email Grinch   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Grinch

quote:
They are right in that I cannot right click to copy. But I could highlight the script to copy (ctrl c) then paste it on a word processor (ctrl v).


If you disable java scripts in your browser you can right click to your hearts content.

I wouldn’t recommend hacking as an option though, it kinda erodes the ethical high ground you currently hold.



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ditto Grinch. I concur...

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