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Sunshine
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0 posted 2005-03-20 01:23 PM


We need not advocate the reason,
but we should support those who
are there for us, and here for us...
who protect us, and others...

Turn up your sound, let it play to the end.

It does take a moment to load...
and you may want to make sure
you have some Kleenex on hand.

Caution: Your heart may pain
for some moments afterwards...
http://www.clermontyellow.accountsupport.com/flash/UntilThen.swf

God bless our Men & Women
in uniform.

© Copyright 2005 Karilea Rilling Jungel - All Rights Reserved
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1 posted 2005-03-20 02:15 PM


thankyou Karilea.
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2 posted 2005-03-20 03:16 PM


Very inspired!  Thank you.  
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3 posted 2005-03-20 11:15 PM


An incredible presentation. The music is perfect and the pictures speak for themselves. There is a comraderie and sense of pride in those faces many will never be able to understand. Thank you, Karilea...it is beautiful.
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4 posted 2005-03-22 06:30 PM


Thank You KJ...gosh, the tears...thank you
very much for giving this, that we might
honor them, all of them...no matter the
cause or reason.

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5 posted 2005-03-22 06:45 PM


It's as good as it was the first time I saw it. God bless our troops and God bless Iraq.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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6 posted 2005-03-22 08:52 PM


Ladies, gentlemen...you are more than welcome. It was a gift received, and only one that I could share. I had not yet seen it...and those that I haven't seen, that touch me like this, are the ones that I share.

I will never understand the reason that men/countries/civilizations go to war, other than to conquer...others....

Yet I know when another power comes into play, one that could well decide to step back and only war against the victor...well, that speaks to a lot of things.  

Like Honor, Truth, Justice.

Yes, let me be hung as one who sees the simplicity of it all. But if my neighbor is being threatened, I do not think I will stand silent and just watch it with blind eyes, and uncaring soul.

We must choose our wars carefully, yes.

We must interact when we believe we will be heard.  There are many kinds of wars waging for many of us right now.

All I can pray for, is justice...in what some would call an unjust world.

And that is where faith comes in.

And Hope.  Peace.  Tolerance for what I cannot change, and belief in what I can change.

Thank you all, for at least witnessing what was seen through another's eyes.


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7 posted 2005-03-24 01:34 PM


I'm at the office now, on lunch break (the only place I have Internet access), so I can't check it out, but I will be visiting the link when I'm elsewhere and can hear the music and everything. Thank you, Karilea.

~sky

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8 posted 2005-03-24 02:44 PM


Loved it karilea...very inspiring..."sniff*

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9 posted 2005-04-02 03:52 PM




(angel friendship hugs) God Bless You, dearest Karilea, for sharing this most wonderful presentation.

(wipes tears) Just because I do not support this war and never will NEVER means I do not support these honorable men and women in uniform, for I believe it is not the soldiers who declare war, it is the politicians. I certainly will never fully understand what these young men and women are thinking or feeling out there on the fields, just as I don't think those currently in power who resisted service as they were growing up ever would either.

The bottom line, is, they are dependent and depending on our support, warmth and comfort. And I'm not supporting them on the basis of their mission exactly, I'm supporting them just because often I think we take for granted there's more than just the soldier, but the father, husband, friend, volunteer within the uniform. We are all God's children and I wish with all my heart that they all return safely to their loved ones and families as soon as possible.

That's what I pray for each and every day since this war began.

None of us can ever speak for all these individuals who are serving. Some truly are eagerly serving out of pride and love for their country, others are doing it because it's the only way they can get college tuition and benefits or grow up in impovished communities where it's the only way to financially succeed. There are those who truly believe in this war, others are conscientious objectors who joined in hope they could carry out foreign aid assignments and such.

In either case, they deserve our utmost respect and support.

God Bless our troops, and God Bless America!

And God Bless you, Karilea, for sharing this!



Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"

Mother Teresa

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10 posted 2005-04-02 04:54 PM


Yes, Noah...I do understand your feelings.

While I may never understand the need for some men to fight, argue, or go to war "just because"...[for you see, I hate argument of any kind....]

Still, I honor all of the men and women who have and currently do support the need for a Nation...a need for Right and Dignity; the Promise of a Nation that needs to be react as a United Nation.

I was born in the wrong time, Noah. There are days that I would gladly go out in long skirt and heavy blouse and take control of what belongs to me. I am a strong yet diluted mixture of what is right, and what is so wrong with our lives today.

And I keep trying to find a strength within myself that seems weakened by complacency. Sometimes, and because I am who I am,, I blame myself for that very feeling.

I could blame others, but lately I blame myself more and more for not reacting more strongly against a willful mother and complacent father. While I reach more towards the father's side of "live and let live", sometimes I think that if my mother had searched her soul and raised her voice, hers would have been one to be reckoned with.

I am probably talking out of school here, but it is just that...what we don't know about our parents is even MORE important than what we think we know about them.

So if you are ever in doubt about what your parents once dreamed? Lived for? Idealized? If you are NOT sure, then I say, ASK NOW before it is much too late.

But for whatever reason the men and women serve, Noah...there are far and better ways to gain a "college education". Yes, I admit, that could be a guiding factor. But in the end?

They are Brothers and Sisters of a type that most of us, the BREACH of us, will never know. I, for one, believe that ALL men and women change over time, and say in a moment, "this was the wrong thing to do"...and yet, they SERVED the country that holds them.

It IS a conundrum, yes. But if I had a choice and from what I know of my several years and limited travel?

I don't yet know that I would pick a different country to live in...oh yes, there could be a different one, but for now? I won't turn my back on the Lady and her Light.

Thank you for your comments. I agree with you a lot of the time...and I disagree, too...when I truly feel that there is a reason far and away from what we really know, as to what needs to be done to bring consideration to all beings. Not that they want it, mind you, but there again, goes the circle in dust.

For some reason, everyone thinks they are equal to the trying part of life.

Please, Someone bless everyone.

K

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11 posted 2005-04-02 09:51 PM




(big hugggsssssss) Awwwwwww Karilea, I appreciate your wonderful, heartfelt response here. I respect you very much because you have such an honest, pure tone in how you speak, that reflects so many moods. And while you may believe you're both right and wrong, you speak very thoughtfully and genuinely and to me that always sounds more right to me.

And you are so right about children and their parents. Naturally, it is not uncommon for youth in adolescence to believe they know everything and desire individualism and freedom of their own, and I believe that boils in me right now as well. With that said, I believe we take for granted ever so often how just because we're grown up doesn't mean we need our mothers and fathers less than before. In fact, I believe I need mine MORE than ever and I really want to try and know them the best I can before I may regret not committing later in life.

My parents don't go out into the community often like I have done since the invasion began, but they do share my opinion and sentiments on the war. I can never fully speak for what they believed before, and if it is consistent to what they believe now, but I always like the time every weekend when we're off of school and work just to talk and create a more involving mutual understanding of each other.

People change all the time, it's the universal truth. When Medea Benjamin came to Portland last October for a lecture with Daniel Ellsberg and Norman Solomon, she said the best way to keep active and keep that sense of wonder and to preserve the dream is to keep interested.

Being as interested and involved as I am now, I don't think I'll turn 180, but I KNOW I will change, and I accept changing. I believe if I had never changed, that I had never learned anything.

Though I disagree with much all the presidents and politicians that we've had since I was born have said or believed in, it still hasn't obfuscated my belief that the United States of America is a wonderful place to live. And sure, there are other great countries in the world too with strong democracies and living conditions. Costa Rica, for instance, and Norway, New Zealand. But anyway, I am absolutely proud to be an American, and regardless of how I heavily disagree with those in power right now, it doesn't detract from how I believe we owe our young men and women our most heartwarming thanks for maintaining the stars and stripes.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"

Mother Teresa

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12 posted 2005-04-26 06:40 PM


Thank you Sunshine for sharing something that wonderful with me. Being here sometimes makes you forget that there are people in the world that are fighting for us. *tears* I hope that all friends and family and other loved ones come home soon and end all the madness going on for a bit.

God Bless the military.

Love,
Ladycat

Insanity in individuals is something rare but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.-Friedrich Nietzsche

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