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Local Rebel
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0 posted 2003-07-31 01:34 AM


And so my friend, the Hospice nurse has told you that it will all be over soon.  And no doubt it will.  Perhaps it already is at the time of this writing.  You say to keep you in prayers.  So much is happening it is unreal.  This I know.  So for today I kept you in my thoughts for six hours this morning.  And for seven hours this evening.  I send you all the energy and spirit that I have. The waiting is the hardest part though it seems.  But that last breath will come, when he puts his head back against the pillow and inhales, then exhales, then, just doesn't.  

As you watch them in pain you hope it comes.  And with each breath you're glad it didn't.  But, it will come.  With it will come new energy.  As you've been struggling to just stay awake and for personal comfort and think your body can't go any further -- when that time comes it will be like you just woke up.  There will be lots of things to do.  Do them.  Get involved in them.  There will be time to cry later.

You'll look inside yourself too.  And ask questions.  What does life mean?  What does death mean?  When it was my time to be in your shoes I remember those well.  I wish I had the answers to give you -- but you'll have to find them yourself.

I can only offer some of the fuel that took me on my own path.

When my father invited the black congregation to come to worship with us one Sunday morning the pastor of their church got up to speak with the biggest smile on his face.  He was so happy to be there.  I still remember what he said that morning.  

"One day
You're going to die.

One day
You're going to die
And they will dig a hole
In the ground
And they will
Put you in it.

One day
You're going to die.

And they will dig a hole
In the ground
And they will
Put you in it
And then they will
Go back down
To the fellowship hall
And eat potato salad.

And they are
Going to talk about
You

They are going to
Talk about you.

What they gonna say?

When you were born
You cried
Everybody else
Was happy.

When you were born
You cried
Everybody else
Was happy.

When you die
Is it gonna be
The other way around?"

Now you can look around at the people that are gathered at those hospital beds and you can tell what kind of life your loved ones have lived.  I don't know anything about the details of their lives except that they gave you to the world and you -- you're a good person.  That says enough to me.

I know that you're close to them -- and that maybe sometimes you weren't.  Things you regret.  Things they may have done that hurt your feelings -- I just don't know -- can't know.  But, you're a Christian person and there are some words that everyone can draw on for power from Paul's letter to the Romans

quote:

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?  Neither Death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powrs, nor things present, nor things to come.



Whether we're agnostics, or Christians, Jews or Buddhists, Hindus or Moslems, we can find strength in the power that love has to cross all boundaries -- even to the places we can't go -- even from people we may have never met.  And with the power of that love we can transform lives and say as Paul said 'I have fought the good fight, I have finished my course.'

As you ask those questions remember this is where the real power is -- not in petty judgments and recrimination over sins of weakness -- sins of life.  Who cares about that stuff?  Let the Bible thumpers have it.  To look around the room and say 'these are the people that loved him' -- that's the final judgment.

I have the little black notebook that belonged to my father.  That he wrote in.  It contains some of his thoughts on dying and death -- he put his funeral sermons in it.  He always ended with this poem:

quote:

What is dying?

I am standing upon the seashore.
A ship at my side spreads her white sails
To the morning breeze and
Starts for the blue ocean.

She is an object of beauty and strength,
And I stand and watch her until, at length,
She hangs like a speck of white cloud
Just where the sea and sky
Come down to mingle with each other.

Then someone at my side says,
"There she's gone!"

Gone where?

Gone from my sight.. that is all.

She is just as large in mast and hull and spar
As when she left my side:
And just as able to bear her load
Of living freight to the place
Of destination.

Her diminished size is in me...
Not in her.

And just at the moment
When someone says, "There she's gone!"
There are other voices ready
To take up the glad shout
"Here she comes!"

And that is dying.

-- Author Unknown (at least to me)



Namaste
Peace and energy to you.


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serenity blaze
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1 posted 2003-07-31 06:54 AM


Reb, this so...you have managed to make sense on a subject that has never made sense to me. For that I thank you.

Peace to you, and peace to your friend.

nakdthoughts
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2 posted 2003-07-31 07:01 AM


Those who have lived through another's death can understand what you are feeling, and those that haven't will be touched by your words.

M

Carolina
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3 posted 2003-07-31 08:47 AM


Two weeks ago this morning, they told my Uncle that he would have only six months to live.  He passed away last night at 7:00.  My Grandmother was sitting beside him, as he started the "death rattle" that she's heard so many times before.  She called the family into the room, and as they were coming in, the phone rang.  It was the Hospice nurse, calling to check up on things. (She had started calling instead of staying because she saw all of the family around and all of the loving care that was given to him each and every moment of the day and night.)  She arrived 5 minutes later, checked on him, and quietly closed the bedroom door behind her, leaving my family to be with him.  We gathered hands and made a circle around his bed, and started a prayer of thanksgiving, a prayer of peace and love for my Uncle.  With each breath he struggled to take, we continued with prayer, each person took turns, one by one, praying.  On the last prayer, from the last person, just before everyone said Amen...we heard him take his last breath.  Our circle of family got smaller, but in our faith and love, it became stronger.  He will be cremated, we'll have a short memorial service, and we will all go to the beach, spread half of his ashes off the Cherry Grove pier, and the other half will be spread over the Waccamaw River.  How fitting your poem was, LR.  We know he was met by alot of family and friends as he joined our Lord in heaven.  

Your words have always brought me comfort and strength, and I will always be thankful that God sent me a beautiful and caring friend to be here for me when I need him.  

Thank you, LR

[This message has been edited by Carolina (07-31-2003 03:20 PM).]

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4 posted 2003-07-31 09:04 AM



Holding thoughts
with you.

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5 posted 2003-07-31 09:33 AM


Carolina~
May His power of comfort be with you all in this time of need~

Reb~
This is, without doubt, the most touching piece I've ever read here~
He has blessed you with the words-of-comfort for another~
I am keeping this piece ... for it contains so much compassion and 'understanding'~
Sincerely~
~*Marge*~

~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
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quatro
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6 posted 2003-07-31 01:16 PM


Reb,

I respond to your post with tears in my eyes and a lump in my throat.  You have udoubtably touched the very core of what we all want to know.

I have not posted much here in a while but I come by and visit every day and I read and sometimes respond.  I have been going through my own journey and am preparing myself for surgery on the 19th of this month.  Although my surgery is routine, it is still a major surgery and I have children at home to care for.  I am scared, but have faith that all will go well.  Your words have somehow comforted me in a way I can't explain.  There is very little chance that anything major will go wrong during my surgery, but for that slim chance I am comforted in knowing that there will be someone on the other side shouting "Here she comes!"

Thank you
quatro

Toerag
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7 posted 2003-07-31 03:37 PM


Reb...No Toerag comments this time....this is superb my friend....Just superb...
Martie
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8 posted 2003-07-31 03:53 PM


Rebel....I'm adding this to my library.  Your words here mean a great deal to me, and for that I thank you.
Enchantress
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9 posted 2003-07-31 03:53 PM


Reb..Thank you.
Marsha
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10 posted 2003-07-31 03:57 PM


Thank you for this beauty, your words are incredible.

Love and stuff
as always
Mushy

Tomorrow is another day I don't know what it holds
but I can face the future with courage brave and bold

Footprints In My Heart
Kethry

Patricia
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11 posted 2003-07-31 04:08 PM


While I began reading with mind upon the petty things of life...I ended with revelations of what is important. My friend, you have guided my thinking into a new direction today.  I shall save this, and when I slip (and I will slip for I know me) I will refer to these words.

Patricia

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12 posted 2003-07-31 04:40 PM


This is so moving and answers many needs! God must have given you guidance in writing this wonderful piece!  Thanks for sharing.

Betty Lou Hebert

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13 posted 2003-07-31 04:43 PM


Huggzzzz, my friend. This is not just one of the best things you've ever written... it's one of the best I've read.
luv ya... Auntie

Kethry
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14 posted 2003-07-31 05:33 PM


Reb,
you may never know how many people you will touch with this. It touched me deeply and I thank you for the planting of this seed. May it reap a harvest beyond your reckoning.
Kethry

Here in the midst of my lonely abyss, a single joy I find...your presence in my mind.  Unknown



Munda
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15 posted 2003-07-31 05:46 PM


Thank you for sharing this.
Seymour Tabin
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16 posted 2003-07-31 06:17 PM


Local Rebel
Life is nebulous, thankyou for the post.

Balladeer
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17 posted 2003-07-31 06:46 PM


there she goes....here she comes..

That sums it up very nicely. I've always felt there was something wrong with the system somewhere when that's what we all have to look forward to...one can hope it's a beginning and not an end..

powerful writing. reb...

dgvarner
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18 posted 2003-07-31 10:21 PM


very touching...very deep...
there is something worth hearing, knowing, feeling, in every line of this...It makes me think of my Grandfather -- when he was dying, I'd give anything if someone had sent these words to me...There's someone out there who has a very good friend in you..

Thank you for sharing..

hugs, g

dgvarner
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19 posted 2003-08-01 09:55 PM


"There, She's Gone"

Henry Van Dyke  
  

found at this web addy    http://vicky.com/quotes/death.htm

enjoyed..
g


I want to run naked in the Blue!

[This message has been edited by dgvarner (08-01-2003 09:57 PM).]

passing shadows
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20 posted 2003-08-02 01:46 AM


I'm shaking now, in a strange calmness

death and dying...thoughts that have been on my mind lately...and I am soothed by your words...greatly and gratefully

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21 posted 2003-08-02 10:47 AM


quote:
One day
You're going to die.

And they will dig a hole
In the ground
And they will
Put you in it
And then they will
Go back down
To the fellowship hall
And eat potato salad.

And they are
Going to talk about
You

They are going to
Talk about you.

What they gonna say?


namaste, I hope, and safe journey

a powerful moving piece, soulfriend
your heartbeat was heard, your warmth was felt


Local Rebel
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22 posted 2003-08-02 09:27 PM


Carolina


Local Rebel
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23 posted 2003-08-02 09:45 PM


To all;

It was a judgement call to place this here -- it started out as a private message to Carolina -- but I thought there might be some reciprocal benefit of community.  Certainly it is a subject that faces us all.

If there is an essense here that some can take comfort in then my judgement was sound -- but -- I hope you take away from this whatever truth you find inherent here and forget the messenger that brought them.  

There is always a thin line to walk between the proffer of counsel and self-agrandizement.  If I ever thought anybody would pay attention to the things I wrote I would have chosen the pen name Anonymous.

dg;

the miracles of the internet eh?  with what little bit of forensic analysis I can conduct on my father's notebook his copy that he typed himself has been in there circa 1952 -59.  In all that time it only ever said Author Unknown.

I know that Abigail Van Buren went in search of the author one time and as I recall the search wasn't conclusive.

I'm glad that it touched a spark strong enough that you wanted to take the time to browse around and get back to us here with it.

I want to extend my thanks and apologies to Ron and the moderators -- may have been a borderline case since this post is full of other people's words -- I thought the wind of edification might be the right breeze for bending the rules a tad

toerag
you keep on making those toe comments -- humor is a powerful salve -- that's why the world loved Bob Hope -- why the ladies love you

when my father was in the last days and the last of his children finally made it in he had us all lined up around the room and in one of his final cogent moments gave us each our final orders one by one -- and said he was ready to go

then he laid back and closed his eyes

the room fell silent for a breif eternity -- then -- he sat back up and said

'nothing happened'

mel brooks couldn't have produced a better comedy

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24 posted 2003-08-04 01:29 PM


If it will help any doubts you might have had about posting... I'm back to put this into my library... for I know these are words I'll want to read again... and I know there will be times I need to read them...
passing shadows
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25 posted 2003-08-11 01:02 PM


just needed this again today
Carolina
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26 posted 2003-08-11 03:05 PM


I hope your friend does fine, passing shadows.  I'll remember him in my prayers, and you, too.  

I had to print this, because it has so much comfort in it, and it seems to answer alot of the questions I have.  

PhaerieChild
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27 posted 2003-08-11 06:18 PM


"There she goes"........my heart and soul cried.
"Here she comes"........my heart and soul rejoiced.
What a wonderful perspective! Very touching and is now a favorite to add to my library.

garysgirl
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28 posted 2003-08-11 10:34 PM


Reb, I want to thank you for posting this....for the words and meaning and comfort of those words....for showing your heart, care, and compassion.... and for being such a good friend to your friend.

From all the words in the heartfelt replies here, you have touched a lot of hearts. I know that you certainly touched mine. Thank you so very much, Reb. Carolina should be honored to have such a friend as you....I can tell that she is.

I'm also going to keep this so that I can read it again as I need to. There are times I wish I would have had something so precious to read.

Heart hugs to you, Reb  
Ethel

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29 posted 2003-08-12 12:43 PM


Ruth; no, no doubts about posting it -- just want to make sure that it isn't about me -- read, re-read, direct others -- if there is a truth here to be lived then it should be.

Dixie;   come back anytime!

Carolina; you too!

PhaerieChild; glad this perspective offers meaning...

Ethel; you're welcome backatcha


jellybeans
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30 posted 2004-02-24 02:37 PM


library bound...thank you for sharing your thoughts
garysgirl
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31 posted 2004-02-24 03:10 PM


Reb, I'm glad this came back up to the top.
You are a treasure, my friend. This proved it for sure.
Hugs  
Ethel

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