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Peter J Marcroft
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since 02-02-2003
Posts 282
York, England


0 posted 07-27-2003 03:24 PM       View Profile for Peter J Marcroft   Email Peter J Marcroft   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Peter J Marcroft


That is right, this is to be my last ever post on this site.  I have been considering it for a while now after some bitter circumstances.

The final ever poetry topic I made is now on 'open poetry #27' and is a small anthology of the pieces that highlight my time on this site.

I truly wish all poets the best of luck with their work in the future, only a small minority are responsible for my leaving and there are many people here that I will miss in the future.

I am now looking for a new home for my poetry and wish that sometime in the future our paths will cross again...

But until next time...


Fare thee well!
Miah
Senior Member
since 08-26-2002
Posts 1092
Pennsylvania


1 posted 07-27-2003 03:36 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

Good luck in whatever you do.
Toad
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since 06-16-2002
Posts 247


2 posted 07-27-2003 04:14 PM       View Profile for Toad   Email Toad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toad

Now I'm even more confused.

Is this your final final final goodbye?
nakdthoughts
Member Laureate
since 10-29-2000
Posts 19275
Between the Lines


3 posted 07-27-2003 04:27 PM       View Profile for nakdthoughts   Email nakdthoughts   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for nakdthoughts

Toad, you make me laugh

Peter
...for someone who wants to leave here so badly because of the treatment, I have been wondering myself why so many goodbyes...methinks someone protests too much or whatever that saying is... or maybe is awaiting an apology or a flood of responses...~sighing~

maybe you should just stay and post (like you are)follow the guidelines and see what happens... you can always post those "other" poems elsewhere where they won't get deleted.


M
Peter J Marcroft
Member
since 02-02-2003
Posts 282
York, England


4 posted 07-27-2003 04:48 PM       View Profile for Peter J Marcroft   Email Peter J Marcroft   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Peter J Marcroft

I am afraid I cannot stay at a corrupt website.  I have read and re-read the offending post from Ron which effectively unleashed moderators to witch hunt my work, I quote...   "There will be no further edits and no more moves to another forum for your work, Peter. They will simply be yanked by the first Moderator who feels you've once again broken our Guidelines. Peter posts, Moderator reads, Moderator pulls for just about any reason they want. We're not going to waste any more time discussing borderline infractions or your possible intent, nor will we bother with warnings or email messages you'll probably just ignore as you seem to have ignored the last one I sent to you.

Be happy, Peter. You will now be getting the special treatment you wanted.


This allows my work to be witch hunted for any reason by mods, which I refuse to accept.

Either we all get witch hunted or none of us do, there are no exceptions as this site claims often we are equals here, WELL START TREATING US THAT WAY!

The only way I would return is if I did recieve a full apology for this and a guaruntee that I would not fall foul to the content of this quote, that my work would be edited, analysed and my case heard.  Since this is not likely to happen in the near future, I am leaving.

Now the idea of this topic was to leave amicably without enmity or hatred or the resurrecting of bitterness.  The anthology was a post meant to bid farewell to the fans of my work or people curious about it.  I am leaving, I doubt there will be a return as it seems my presence is no longer welcome.

Farewell!  See you all in the shadows!
Sunshine
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Member Caelestus
since 06-25-99
Posts 67715
Listening to every heart


5 posted 07-27-2003 04:58 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Peter, you may be interested that due to your posts, Ron has initiated a few changes so people know EXACTLY what to expect when they don't read the fine, though font size 12 print.

We don't DO suicide here.

We explore the ramifications of same; we show the consequences of same; we offered you, time and again, chances to place your poetry where it belongs, when overly dark and seriously explicit, into Insights or other Mature Forums.

We have recently welcomed very new, young members to our Open Boards.  We have never failed to ask ANY of our members, when they have crossed the guidelines, to please refer to the guidelines, and post accordingly.

Witchhunt?  Sorry.  I do not think anyone here ever felt that we have hunted down anyone.  Watch, perhaps, because some folks change their e-mails so much we can't always stay on top of their most current address; just as our members don't read all of their mail.  

Yes, Peter, you are right and Ron gave you exactly that language.  If this is, and I feel it is, another post for attention, well, you have received same.  

You know what?  You have not been "banned", Peter.  And that HAS been done.  Perhaps Ron was giving you, yet again, one last chance.

Unfortunately for you, you have another path to take.

Be well, write well.

Enjoy whatever new home you find.

[This message has been edited by Sunshine (07-27-2003 05:26 PM).]

Wind
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since 10-12-2002
Posts 3185


6 posted 07-27-2003 05:27 PM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

Byebye. nothing personal
Toad
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since 06-16-2002
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7 posted 07-27-2003 05:35 PM       View Profile for Toad   Email Toad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toad


Peter,

What would you suggest the witch finder general did once the hubble bubble merchant has been found?

A Talk to them and ask them to moderate their antisocial behaviour
B Burn them at the nearest stake
C Ignore them and put up with a few spell casualties

Let’s say the witch finder general decided to talk to them, but what if the wicked witches of the north-east simply ignore him. What would you suggest he do then?

A Try the talking method again?
B Burn them at the nearest stake
C Ignore them and put up with a few spell casualties

Let’s go with the first one again but supposing this doesn’t work, what does he do then?

A Try the talking method again?
B Burn them at the nearest stake
C Tell them they’ll get a dunking every time they so much as look like they’ve cast a spell

If you answered AAC to the above you’ll have some idea of the hoops Ron has jumped through to make room for the witches at this site, personally I’d have been reaching for the gasoline after the first A.

Fortunately though this isn’t a witch-hunt, if you decide to leave it will be exactly that – you deciding to leave. The torch bearing crowds and witch finder general are just a fairy tale. PIP is in fact a witch friendly zone, all Ron asks is that they refrain from trying to turn younger members into toads.

As a side note – you don’t happen to know any toad to prince spells do you?
littlewing
Member Rara Avis
since 03-02-2003
Posts 9998
New York


8 posted 07-27-2003 05:42 PM       View Profile for littlewing   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littlewing

Peter,
I am a Moderator and have had
my own writes in review
Why?
BECAUSE THEY CROSSED THE GUIDELINES
What have I done?
KEPT WRITING
nakdthoughts
Member Laureate
since 10-29-2000
Posts 19275
Between the Lines


9 posted 07-27-2003 06:29 PM       View Profile for nakdthoughts   Email nakdthoughts   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for nakdthoughts

Toad to the rescue, once again

Would be nice if someone could turn you into a "prince of a guy" huh?

But maybe you already are and just don't know it.

M
Poet deVine
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since 05-26-99
Posts 25869
Hurricane Alley


10 posted 07-27-2003 07:27 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I think that Toad needs to be kissed!
Wind
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
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since 10-12-2002
Posts 3185


11 posted 07-27-2003 08:01 PM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

witch friendly zone lucky for me
serenity blaze
Member Empyrean
since 02-02-2000
Posts 28839


12 posted 07-27-2003 08:13 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Lucky for ME too.



Blessed be.
Nightshade
Deputy Moderator 5 ToursDeputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Laureate
since 08-31-2001
Posts 14673
just out of reach


13 posted 07-27-2003 08:19 PM       View Profile for Nightshade   Email Nightshade   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nightshade's Home Page   View IP for Nightshade

Yikes! I have been known to cast a few spells of my own.
What was the question?
Oh..sorry yes..ummm....
Wind
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Elite
since 10-12-2002
Posts 3185


14 posted 07-27-2003 08:32 PM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

poof..I'm a brat, porch puppy, witch, and ghost..all in one
Kellie_Cantrell
Senior Member
since 05-22-2002
Posts 1680
Washington State


15 posted 07-28-2003 12:22 AM       View Profile for Kellie_Cantrell   Email Kellie_Cantrell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kellie_Cantrell

Peter- This site is family friendly.

                   Love,
             xXx~*KELLIE*~xXx
*My poetry website
http://www.freewebs.com/poettree/

risingphoenix
Junior Member
since 07-01-2003
Posts 12


16 posted 07-28-2003 02:57 AM       View Profile for risingphoenix   Email risingphoenix   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for risingphoenix

This seems like a poor way to treat a fellow member, I can understand what he means when he says corrupt.  After all how are we to know what the moderators do?  

Maybe he hasn't been banned as one person said but he has been isolated and told that for him the rules will be enforced with the speed of a jackhammer.

The more I read about this the more I am put off posting, especially when one of my poems was recently pulled for a reason claiming it glorified drugs when it didn't.  Having sent in my case I got a reply that said an administrator was looking into it, that was FIVE DAYS ago.  I am uncertain as to whether my work is allowed here anymore too.

Sorry guys but from my very miniscule experiences here I am with this guy over this issue.
serenity blaze
Member Empyrean
since 02-02-2000
Posts 28839


17 posted 07-28-2003 04:29 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

rising phoenix?

There is one sure way to know what the moderators are doing. That MIGHT consist of completing the requirements to become a Deputy Moderator.

Read the guidelines. Stick around. Volunteer to help wash a few dishes in this party house sponsored by "no-one".

(His name is Ron Carnell, btw.)

I love Peter's work and told him so--but?
I also love what Ron is accomplishing.

If that makes me a butt kissing fool?
Somebody hand me a tissue before I kiss you.



I will miss Peter. But I can and will attest that there is NO witchhunt.

I know.

I'm a witch.



Peter? NO offense meant and none taken.

NOT every thing is for everybody.
Nan
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Member Seraphic
since 05-20-99
Posts 24426
Cape Cod Massachusetts USA


18 posted 07-28-2003 06:59 AM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

Risingphoenix - Your first post having been pulled for similar reasons, and the fact that you and Peter ARE one and the same person, proves that we're not on a witch hunt for Peter/you, but rather moderating his/your poetry.

Your "ultimate final" post has been edited as well.

Good luck in your endeavors.
serenity blaze
Member Empyrean
since 02-02-2000
Posts 28839


19 posted 07-28-2003 07:07 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Nan? Thanks for the kleenex.

Janet Marie
Member Laureate
since 01-22-2000
Posts 18986


20 posted 07-28-2003 09:01 AM       View Profile for Janet Marie   Email Janet Marie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Janet Marie

ROFLMAO ....

When will they learn that the Wizard can see ALL from behind the golden curtain...after all he built the house.


Either come in--or go out...but close the door--youre letting bugs in.

"How could I stand here with you and not be moved by you."

LH

Wind
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since 10-12-2002
Posts 3185


21 posted 07-28-2003 09:07 AM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

same person? sigh..i liked both of them... so did you leave or are you staying as a different person? I am very confused. I can't tell if you want to stay, or are trying to tell us in various forms that this place is corrupt.
risingphoenix
Junior Member
since 07-01-2003
Posts 12


22 posted 07-28-2003 09:27 AM       View Profile for risingphoenix   Email risingphoenix   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for risingphoenix

I have no idea what you mean, I only read two of this guys poems, otherwise I do not know of him, in fact I have looked up at his profile and it says England, I am not from that country so cannot be the same person.  

I am from Denmark (of English descent, parents moved out here about 25 years ago) and have not even visited England for well over five years, so I cannot be the same person, whatever grounds you have to accuse me of this, rest assured that it is purely coincidental.
PhaerieChild
Senior Member
since 08-30-99
Posts 1829
Aloha, Oregon


23 posted 07-28-2003 09:33 AM       View Profile for PhaerieChild   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PhaerieChild

Peter,
If you're leaving, then get gone. If all you wanna do is snivel, then by all means go somewhere else. Whether you like it or not this is still Ron's site and it is not up to you to change the rules. His house, his rules. Not happy?? Open your own and snivel there!!!
Wind
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Elite
since 10-12-2002
Posts 3185


24 posted 07-28-2003 09:36 AM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

From what I've heard, administrators have the ability to identify your  ISP. if yours is identical to Peter's, unless you live in Winnipeg (which you just confirmed you do not) it is not likely that you would have an identical isp to Peter's. They have their ways of finding out.

Personaly, I liked your first poem. I hold no grudges

[This message has been edited by Wind (07-28-2003 09:40 AM).]

 
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