Differance between haikus and senyrus

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paladin

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0 posted 2003-01-31 11:32 AM

Both have the form of three lines of seventeen syllables.In the traditional Japanese haikus the first two lines are usually about something in nature.The last line is a thought provoked by the first two lines.Read some of my haikus and senyrus.

paladin

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Mistletoe Angel

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1 posted 2003-01-31 12:47 PM

That's right, and a senryu is the exact same form, only it does not focus on nature but anything other than that, and typically poets also express a thought on the final line of five syllables in a senryu!

You write such wonderful haikus and senryus, dearest friend, I will keep reading them!

Love,
Noah Eaton

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Shakira

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Canada eh.

2 posted 2003-01-31 01:21 PM

And you do these so well Robert!

Local Parasite

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3 posted 2003-01-31 02:05 PM

Haiku are meant to provoke thought by way of using an image, without giving any direct thoughts of its own... haiku are usually about nature, and always about "nature" in the sense of, the physical aspects.  Haiku describes something, and it is that image that is meant to provoke a thought, or point towards some meaning.  The meaning itself lies entirely in the image.

I was talking about this with someone a while ago, who has done a lot of study in Japanese history, and he looked up "Senryu" in a japanese dictionary he had... the definition was "a comic Haiku."  For our purposes, though, a senryu is something that uses 5-7-5 as a format, without the haiku requirement of being thought-provoking imagery.

(edit:  changed 7-5-7 to 5-7-5, which is what it is, but I typoed, pardon my error)

"Faith" means the will to avoid knowing what is true.
~ Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

[This message has been edited by Local Parasite (02-01-2003 01:38 AM).]

Marshalzu

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4 posted 2003-01-31 02:43 PM

Now thats a coincidence, I had someone asking about that the other day

Kellie_Cantrell
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5 posted 2003-01-31 02:55 PM

heehee, I just learned something new... thanks.

Nan

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6 posted 2003-01-31 07:12 PM

Let's not forget - Haiku can also be truncated to 3-5-3... for a more terse verse...

garysgirl

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7 posted 2003-01-31 11:56 PM

Now I'm really confused. I thought that both
haiku and senryu were 5-7-5, for some reason.

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