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rwood
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25 posted 06-07-2007 07:15 AM       View Profile for rwood   Email rwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for rwood

I'm not feelin' any love. I guess I just thought I was edgy and controversial. I've never been blocked or had any of my posts deleted, as far as I'm aware.

*sniff*

Oh well. I've lost my ability to be the most aggravating redhead in the joint.

Maybe....

That's because I grew the hell up!

no not really. Slap me love and at least delete "hell" for me?

I just realized that would be two hells. Now three.

jeez you moderators are my heroes.
Alicat
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26 posted 06-07-2007 11:13 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum17/HTML/000109.html

Start -> Run -> cmd
At the prompt, type 'tracert piptalk.com' (minus quotes).  That will show you how many hops there are from your computer to piptalk's servers.  For me, there's 13 hops.  You can also use 'ping piptalk.com' (minus quotes) to check for packet (information) loss between your computer and piptalk's servers.

Granted, the assumption here is you are running a Windows operating system.

Follow-up for the morbidly curious would be to then take the listed IP hops and enter them individually over at ARIN for their physical locations.
Christopher
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27 posted 06-07-2007 12:35 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

That's what I was trying to get across, Ess - with the exception of severe cases, a pull (delete) always follows a discussion. Having not been a moderator (you might consider trying for a Dep. Mod run to get a better perspective), you don't see the continuous conversations that go on behind the scenes. It might also surprise you to know that we rarely have unanimous concensus on what should be done on an individual issue; typically there are one or several people who are on the "losing" side of the fence, when a vote is tallied at the end.

I've been a moderator almost as long as I've been a member, and while I haven't agreed with many of the decisions that have been made (I can't even imagine how many issues that comprises!), I don't believe I've ever had a complaint with the process. Like Sea, I've had more than one post/reply pulled in my time... almsot all with what _I_ feel is good reason. I don't harbor any ill will. Some things fit, some don't... it's really nothing personal if something I want to write doesn't work for these forums - if I really wanted to, I could put it somewhere else... of course, you'll notice that I don't.
Essorant
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28 posted 06-07-2007 01:13 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

Christopher,

But how was that practiced in this case?  From what I understand no moderator came in and helped correct Drauntz.  It sounds like her post was just deleted without any communication, and she was left with a blank of uncertainty.  

aziza
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29 posted 06-07-2007 02:07 PM       View Profile for aziza   Email aziza   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for aziza

You know, I see several issues on this thread.  

First, we are responsible for our posts. If we choose to write in PiP - we know our thoughts are moderated.  It's a feature here that I, for one, appreciate.  We don't have the clutter of BS that has made me move from other forums.  

PiP is organized.  I have seen posts that have made me squirm a bit - and probably have posted a few myself.  I am sure that the moderators don't like all posts that are posted here - but I have only seen them be fair.

One thing I don't respect is others showing lack of respect.  Drauntz has a right to her questions.  First, I think she could have approached the situation in a less attacking manner.  It sounds like she jumped from A (Post removal) to Z (Accusations of being blocked from the site).  I wonder if she simply emailed Ron or any other Admin to deal with this situation?  Sometimes one on one communcation solves more problems that public outcry.

Also, I think her responses to Ron showed a great deal of disrespect to him.  His post to her was direct, but not attacking her personally.  Her remarks about him being "King" etc were uncalled for.  That type of writing solves nothing.  It only diminishes the one who writes the words.

I appreciate PiP.  I have not agreed with all Ron has written, but I don't have to.  The fact that he writes his thoughts do not elevate him above anyone - he might simply be more blunt than many.

This site is good.  I enjoy it - and I appreciate those who moderate it.  Without them, I would not be here.

Alison
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30 posted 06-07-2007 02:20 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

nobody delete my post
only to get into Pip is unacceptabelly slow
so it was Ron, I thought
to  have me blocked
but he said, not yet, not yet

I am in county library where 25 computers in computer room. speed is normal so far.

AZIZA, Ron could tell if I am joking or not. I respect him for his Piptalk which gives many people  chances to share poems...the rare beauty of life. I respect him!!!
Essorant
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31 posted 06-07-2007 02:55 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

Alas, I apologize.  I thought you were talking about a removal of something you posted in the Philosophy forum.  So all this ado is about the speed of your computer when at Passions?
Drauntz
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32 posted 06-07-2007 03:41 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

yes. as soon as I sign in, the speed of getting a page is slower than 286. I would rather think that this is man-intentionally- made-error.  not everybody is complaining about it, right?
Who knows.
Christopher
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33 posted 06-07-2007 04:35 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I think something in my brain just popped.
SEA
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34 posted 06-07-2007 04:51 PM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

Is there blood coming out of my ears?!
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35 posted 06-07-2007 05:08 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I agree. Something weird is going on.

I slept--AGAIN--ALL AFTERNOON!!!

*shrug*

I'll take it!!!
Drauntz
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36 posted 06-07-2007 06:13 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

The same thing happened when I use the computer in county library. Before I signed in, every thing was normal. After I signed in, and posted, things went slow..I mean very slow. then I changed to another computer, the same thing again. I tried to sign in with a new pen name, three hours later, no password was given through my email. The good thing is that  there are 4 public libraries around 5 miles and 100 computers are serving.

any moderators or Ron can give me saying? or or drauntz is drunk in someway?
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37 posted 06-07-2007 07:10 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria


Sunshine
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38 posted 06-07-2007 07:50 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Several variances of interruption can happen in various ways no matter where we are, Drauntz.  I've noticed, when I first joined almost eight years ago, that my computer would have problems connecting, and/or be very slow when I got to certain websites.

This particular website, as many do, gets hundreds of thousands of hits every day, some for brief moments, some which stay "on" all day.  From what I understand, you are not at a home computer, but a shared library computer.  While I am sure the library's computer system is set up for viruses and such, I note that you "clean your cookies" every time you sign off. That's probably a very safe procedure.  

If you were to have a home computer, however, this process would not necessarily be required, unless it was a shared computer.  You would not want a relative or friend clicking in to your information and posting under your name.

I learned a long time ago that when approached with such a problem, and not hearing immediately back from Ron, means that he is probably trying to determine what the problem could possibly be, because yes, he is, indeed, the Wizard.  But there have been a very few times when even he is stymied as to the possible cause of a problem, especially if we, as members, cannot give him the exact information he would need to know to accurately diagnosis our problems.

When there are problem posts, something that the moderators bring to the DM Forum for attention, you can be assured that we do not take any action without letting others know what was done.  Some actions are taken immediately, because of the very fact that what as posted could not be discerned in any other way but a direct disregard for the guidelines.  Other areas are, and can be, fuzzy in nature.  

For example, what might be appropriate in one country, let's say, England, in speech and dialog, may be interpreted in a vastly different way in America.  As was noted above, "private emails" are sent to and from moderators to members in an effort to determine whether or not some particular language is acceptable under the guidelines.  The PiP Moderators volunteer a great deal of time and effort over all and as a group, to make sure that we allow the member's post to stay.

Certain posts, and/or responses, which are totally out of line, are removed.  If it is a response, there is commonly a note by the moderator who removed a specific part, and sometimes, all of that particular response.  But rarely have they been removed without an email to the member.  The very rarest of times have been when the member does not heed the email, and a response is removed in whole, for the sake of the thread.

We leave it to our members, when they have misunderstood, misquoted, or responded in such a way as goes against the guidelines, to make peace between one another, and go on.  Sometimes that happens, and sometimes it doesn't.  However, another option, when you read a post that harbors a member's thoughts that one might not approve of, but do not break the guidelines, is to either read on, or click out.

As I stated, I've not read anything, anywhere, that your own membership has been blocked, stayed, or removed.  So, do trust that it could be with the fact that you have to renew your cookies every day, and/or the fact that the library system could be undergoing their own internal cookie problem.  

Now, write on!


Drauntz
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39 posted 06-07-2007 11:33 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

thank you so much Sunshine!!!
big hugs and hugs again.
It is such a comfort. I thought that I said something that Ron could not take so he tried to block me..because he was working in computer field and he is the owner. He has his right and I acknowledge his right.

Thank you so much. I will be  still dealing the slow speed but at least with a better mood.

thank you again for taking time to write to me.

love

have a very good night, dear lady
Not A Poet
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40 posted 06-08-2007 08:28 AM       View Profile for Not A Poet   Email Not A Poet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Not A Poet's Home Page   View IP for Not A Poet

quote:
I thought that I said something that Ron could not take so he tried to block me

You can be pretty sure that if Ron "tried to block" you would not be able to get in at all.
Drauntz
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41 posted 06-08-2007 01:23 PM       View Profile for Drauntz   Email Drauntz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Drauntz

Not A Poet, thank you.
I am not a poet either.
I love this site and I love all poets here. I respect every one, though we may share different opinions on certain topics.

Ron surly knows that he can block a computer but not a person.

Do please understand that i am so very frustrated with the slowness.

[This message has been edited by Drauntz (06-08-2007 03:46 PM).]

 
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