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0 posted 02-23-2007 11:32 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Thank you Marge!

This afternoon I installed a freeware search agent you recommended, called Copernicus. I'm glad I did, and I think every person in PiP should do the same

Lookie what I found!
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195006/Corona-Calm.html

Which is
http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=92&topic=003336

I got curious and started looking at that guy's (gal?'s) other postings and pretty quickly found a couple of nuggets that other PiPsters may be interested in.....
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/194998/Incurable-Romantic.html
see http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=77&topic=000177  

Sorry Ali, they got ya too.....

and http://www.rapverse.com/pages/194995/Man-Words.html

Yup, our very own Marshalzu... http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=77&topic=000160  

I'm not heavily into telling people what they ought to do, but I'll make a little exception just for this....

I THINK EVERY PIP MEMBER SHOULD GO TO http://www.copernic.com  , INSTALL THEIR SOFTWARE, AND USE IT.

Barring that, every PiP member should at least go here: http://www.rapverse.com/topics/9-1.html  

and check out the first eight or so menus, looking for their titles, with a special eye out for someone named ~*Khatharsis*~
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1 posted 02-24-2007 12:08 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Hi Marge! Guess what!
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195228/Many-Moons-The-Wolf.html

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2 posted 02-24-2007 12:21 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Woo, what a coincidence!
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195226/Strawberry-Moon.html

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3 posted 02-24-2007 12:30 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Bob Gotti, join the club......
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192032/ChoicesPlease-Reply.html

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4 posted 02-24-2007 12:33 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Yoo-hoo! Alwye!
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192191/Dreaming-With-You.html

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5 posted 02-24-2007 12:36 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Yo Bal, don't let Toerag hear about you posting over here......you'll never hear the end of it!
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192199/Boys-Who-Went-WarA.html

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6 posted 02-24-2007 12:39 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

I'll say this for him(/her/it) -- he's omnivorous! Now he's munching on a littlewing....
http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=79&topic=000200

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7 posted 02-24-2007 12:43 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Oh Mark.....is NOTHING sacred?
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192344/The-Light-DreamsDEEP.html

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8 posted 02-24-2007 12:44 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Well, that's about all one man can stand.....I'll leave the rest of it up to you fine folks!

It could have been almost fun, if it weren't so sick.....

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9 posted 02-24-2007 12:53 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

They got Janet Marie too.
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192455/Blued-Brillianceplease-reply.html
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10 posted 02-24-2007 12:57 AM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

I saw that key word, Blue....and almost went for it too -- but after finding one of Mark Bohanan's stolen, I was just sick of the whole thing.....the guy's darn near sacred around here, and it just got to me.

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Left the webmaster there a nice note with a few links.  Since I obviously cannot speak for all affected, I spoke just on mine but did give the link here in case the webmaster, admin or mods want to visit and see what ~*Khatharsis*~ has been up to.

I hope we don't get a 'he's only sampling' excuse.  This goes far beyond Fair Use, and theft is theft.

Don't neglect to check your cookies if you aren't using spywareblaster or similar.  I'm a bit suspicious of the adult-oriented ads there.
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12 posted 02-24-2007 10:58 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal


You've been busy, my friend~

I've been there ... joined (OMG !), left a message on 'Many Moons of the Wolf' and also sent the Administrators an email~

I'll get my Strawberry Moon taken care of also ~~~

And ... just why did I KNOW you'd find this tool so helpful ?

I thank YOU, my friend~

*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
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13 posted 02-24-2007 01:12 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Me too:

You have a problem member.

Ive started searching for my work on the web, and I found this poem, http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195006/Corona-Calm.html

which is really this poem: http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=92&topic=003336

and is my copyrighted material. It was placed on your site without my knowledge or permission, and the person who did it claimed, in the thread, to have written it. I want it taken down immediately.

If you want to head off trouble, you should also look at these, which were written by friends of mine, and were stolen from the same site by the same individual:
http://www.rapverse.com/pages/194998/Incurable-Romantic.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/194995/Man-Words.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195228/Many-Moons-The-Wolf.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/195226/Strawberry-Moon.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192032/ChoicesPlease-Reply.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192191/Dreaming-With-You.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192199/Boys-Who-Went-WarA.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192344/The-Light-DreamsDEEP.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192455/Blued-Brillianceplease-reply.html http://www.rapverse.com/pages/192203/Sojournplease-feed.html

Copyright infringement is an ugly thing and a dirty business to be drawn into. I cant speak for my friends, but I want my poem GONE from your site, and Im sure they will too.
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14 posted 02-24-2007 01:55 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Ed~
The one I let you know that I was working on earlier in the week (GrayEagle) has removed ALL of my poetry from his site now~

Yahoo and I stayed on him pretty good~

It is a lot of work but is well worth it~

Now hoping we'll get some action from this one we're working on now~

*HUGLETS*
~*Marge*~

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15 posted 02-24-2007 04:51 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Gotta love Copernic.   I've used that multi-engine search program for many years with fantastic results, and heartily recommend it.
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16 posted 02-24-2007 10:06 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

After this, if there's anything else you use along with it, I'm all ears!

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17 posted 02-24-2007 11:39 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Ok, call me vindictive -- now I'm giving the guy a haircut!

I'm using the same software to back-check his OTHER postings over at the rap site, and sure enough, I'm finding he stole from other sites as well.

I'm sending links to the administrators of those sites, asking them to let their people know.  

I've found a couple of other places where he's a member, but that's something I'll have to think about before I would do anything.

There's also a Katharsis listed as a member HERE, and our member seems to be a rap fan too, but aside from that I don't see much indication that they're the same person. I'll let PiP look into that one.

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18 posted 02-25-2007 07:47 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal


Just received an email from the site -
quote:
----- Original Message -----
From: admin@rapverse.com
To: MargeTindal @ RapVerse.com Community
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: RapVerse.com Community Contact Us Form - Copyright Infringement


Hi Marge,

The poem has been removed from the site and that member has been banned from the forum. Thank you for notifying us of this problem.


Regards,

Rob
This one that they removed was the 'Many Moons of the Wolf' ... I have also asked that 'Strawberry Moon' be taken off~
I'm sure they will get to it~

TEAMWORK ... that's what it takes~
Thank YOU, Ed~
*Huglet*
~*Me

~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~
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19 posted 02-25-2007 09:19 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Me too, same message -- happy ending.

I'm havin a bit of trouble with the software though....it's only showing about one in five of my poems in PiP, when I try to search by phrase -- even though it does show many of those poems when I ask for Ratleader and the title.

So right now my results are shaky at best. Any suggestions?

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20 posted 02-25-2007 10:23 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Same message, which I must admit is a rarity.  More often than not, I've gotten the 'not our problem' or 'please send notarized copies of everything' responses, so my thanks go out to Rob for very prompt and personal action.

For Copernic, make sure to check Options or Configuration and select all search engines with 100 results per engine and make that your default for all groups.  Also, it takes time for a webpage to get a search listing, mainly dependant on page hits.  And then there's the normal culling every now and then.  I recall finding one of mine quite by accident but got no hits on any search engine for that page until 3 days later.
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21 posted 02-25-2007 11:10 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Will do -- thanks!

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