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WranglrButts9
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50 posted 12-11-2004 03:57 AM       View Profile for WranglrButts9   Email WranglrButts9   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for WranglrButts9

~DC~:

I love your work, and probably always will. But this has nothing to do with the topic I am replying to. You may not want to listen to someone that is 9 years younger than you, and I wouldn't really blame you for that. And please don't find any of this offensive. I just would like to state my feelings about this topic....


If you say that you appreciate the advice someone has given you, why, may I ask, do you not take heed of that advice? You may have, and I just have not seen it recently, but after you say something like that. Then to come back with:

quote:

sounds like the best word yet, and lotsa folks here are full of them.



Is it just me or does it now sound like you are going to fight until you win, no matter what you have to give up, or how much you have to embarrass yourself? Winning is not always the best, and bigger isn't always better.

Then:
quote:

i just like seeing how pitifully people relate to something different.

it's really quite amazing...



Something like that shows no better person than the one that started the original post, although you claim to "have changed".
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Just my feelings and questions, read & agree/disagree as you like!

Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.

Poet deVine
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51 posted 12-11-2004 06:48 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

quote:

ya know, i'm not really defending myself,
i just like seeing how pitifully people relate to something different.




Trust me DC, what you were asking about is not 'different'. What we reacted to was the situation you placed yourself in...and the possible outcome. Flirting is fine. But when it's done with someone who is underage it's dangerous. When you do it without disclosing that you are 22, married and with a baby on the way, that's called manipulation. Let's hope your baby isn't a girl who gets on the internet when she's 13 and meets a 22 year old married man who just wants to flirt with her....or is that all he wants? You never know...we've all heard the horror stories of what can happen to people who meet online.

Age does not indicate mature attitude. I think you'll still be this same way when you're 45. Just as some of the REAL teens here have surpassed you in maturity already. Maybe you should continue to post in teen..in fact if there was a preteen forum, you'd fit right in.
serenity blaze
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52 posted 12-11-2004 08:52 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Funny you should mention a thirteen year old daughter.

I happen to have a thirteen year old daughter who is a member of this forum.

Do I worry about that?

Nope.

I MONITOR her.

That is my job as a parent.

and smile, she has read this thread, and said that while DC is "cute" he is an obvious "poser".

so no, I don't worry about her...

laughing

and no offense dream child

yanno what I do?

I keep my head down and keep typing

I never say never, and I'm sure you will rise to the occasion of DAD just as you did, er...at least once before.

right?

RIGHT.
~DreamChild~
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53 posted 12-11-2004 12:37 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

so far, replies in this thread, so do stray from the original topic. but since everyone
seems to keep putting thier two cents in,
i may as well put mine in the pot.

ya know what, i have considered all of these opinions, and heeded some advice.
i have been wrong. but everyone is wrong sometimes.

you may not like me, but at the end of this thread, there is several that i don't like, too. it really amazes me, how ignorant people can judge someone they don't even know, and all the closed-mindedness really stings me, because i really would like to express myself freely, despite one stupid mistake.

however, the more we carry on this discussion, the more i learn about my fellow pippers, and yes i am much different than most, but that's what spices it up, i think.

i will continue to post freely, and reply as well. everyone should feel free to scrutinize, as maybe you will learn to see past fault, and actually learn more about me
as an artist, instead of some immature man.

in life , i am a responsible adult. i don't live at home with mom, i work, and provide for my family, a home, cars, clothes, food, cable, power, water, phone, blah blah blah.

the point is... i post here to express myself in ways that life can't afford me opportunity to do.

forgive me my offenses, as i will not begrudge, but don't be quick to judge someone as a person, because that is prejudiced, and ignorant.  


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54 posted 12-11-2004 01:42 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

I first wanted to commend that young person for their very mature attitude, and comment above, then, ~DreamChild~ (child of dreams) I will leave this open to give you the last word     as I know you would wish that.  However I just had to say I finally learned what Ron Carnell has been shouting for years in here, and that is, not to react to someone waiting for a reaction, and the second great lesson he teaches is, that if you give someone enough rope they will hang themselves with no one's help.

On that note, I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas and a safe, and easy birth with your new child.  Trust me when I tell you this, if indeed a child is coming into your life whether you like it or not, you are about to have a life-changing experience for the better.  There is simply no graeater honor bestowed on a human being than that of being a parent.  That was why I reacted to you in the first place here to get the heck out of Teen.  

You write some great poetry and I will hope you have time to write about "those feelings" after you hold that new daughter or son.  

I am sure that there are more things in the world that need our attention today than this thread, and much sorrow about these blue halls in what should be a joyeous time, so I sure would like to see you say your final word and end this thread.  The thought that other's feelings amuse you quite frankly makes me a tad sad.

Peace poet person.
~DreamChild~
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55 posted 12-11-2004 01:49 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

some people never understand.
Janet Marie
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56 posted 12-11-2004 05:17 PM       View Profile for Janet Marie   Email Janet Marie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Janet Marie

I received an email with some quotes, and a request that they be passed on and shared. After reading this thread, also brought to my attention by an email, I think this may well be just what the sender had in mind for the wisdom of the words.


Telling a child to "grow up" before their time is like telling a tree to lose its leaves before fall.

Dr. Phil

People seem not to see that their opinion of others is also a confession of their character.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Do what you feel in your heart to be right. for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Eleanor Roosevelt

I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers.

Kahlil Gibran

As years go by, time will change and even reverse many of your present opinions. Refrain therefore, from setting yourself up as a judge.

Plato

"this medium is over taken by keyboard prophets who believe their every word profound."

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serenity blaze
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57 posted 12-11-2004 05:38 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Thanks Jan. And lord gotta love that Eleanor, huh?

(and DC? psssssssst--my daughter just wanted me to clarify her poser comment--she was referring to the hat on backwards in your pic--that style is apparently not to her taste.)

And now, do you think we could all be kind to one another?

Now there's an original idea for the holidays!

Love to all, and DreamChild, I really meant it when I said I wish you all the best. My children are my crowning glory. I wish you the same joy.

Peace.

~DreamChild~
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58 posted 12-11-2004 07:23 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

Thank you Janet, serenity. Merry Christmas to you both.
 
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