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~DreamChild~
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25 posted 12-08-2004 05:00 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

maybe youre right about posting in teen, mysteria. a more mature audience would be better understanding. but as contraversial as i may be, that's just me.
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26 posted 12-08-2004 05:33 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

Controversial may work for in The National Enquirer maybe, but here, , well, I am sure that you get the idea I suspect.

I'm done DreamChild, but then I am over 22 by a long shot
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27 posted 12-08-2004 06:14 PM       View Profile for *Alli4000*   Email *Alli4000*   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for *Alli4000*

quote:
"though i am married, i am still a flirt, that's just me.

like it or not."


How could anyone have liked or not when noone knew you were married until now...?

Just my opinion...it's like Larry pointed out.  Idk...I just don't see what you did right no matter how you try and justify it. Sorry...

Happy Holidays!

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28 posted 12-08-2004 06:25 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

hehe...
hey contraversy is part of art, and self-expression. i'm sorry if i offended anyone,
just being myself.
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29 posted 12-08-2004 06:40 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

So DC is "just being myself" a dodge for accountability?

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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30 posted 12-08-2004 07:25 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

for what shall i be accountable?

that someone else has taken offence to an innocent whim on my behalf?

indeed i will be accountable.

who will judge me?
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31 posted 12-08-2004 07:31 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Apparently that remains to be seen. But the fact that you find no harm in your behavior in the teen forum is indeed telling... My point is that you are choosing not to be accountable. So instead you hide behind the excuse of "just being yourself". Irresponsible.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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32 posted 12-08-2004 07:46 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

maybe posting in teen was a mistake, but we all make mistakes. ill own up to a mistake.
i'm only human.

but to whom shall i be accountable?

seems as though i am being judged by all, and without mercy at that.
but hey, that's human too.
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33 posted 12-08-2004 07:52 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Well DC perhaps some remarks have been a little harsh. Quicker ownership would likely have gotten you a quicker resolution. But you have not exactly been repentant. I gotta tell you I had plenty of issues in my twenties. And I pushed back but at some point being a man means it may not always be as you want it or think it ought to be. Life isn't always fair. And if you have not learned that believe me it will teach you that. There are things I wish could be done over but instead I have to own it.

I did Child Protective Service work for years. So I'm pretty defensive about kids. All my work was with teens. And by law teens are not capable of consentual acts. So sorry, but I see your behavior there as predatory. And I know that is an aggressive word. But we have an obligation to our kids and their parents. Ah heck I'm lecturing and perhaps beating a dead horse.

Hope you fly right, 'cause you can write some good stuff. I'd rather you behave well enough to stay here than to get thrown out. Besides I wouldn't mind assisting in the maturing process. Peace!


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34 posted 12-08-2004 08:24 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

you know i find that offensive, larry, and gross. but i do admit to my error.

i have posted here in teen for years.
but perhaps it is time to shed some skins.

after all, didn't know there were so many babies...

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35 posted 12-08-2004 08:57 PM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

quote:
indeed I will be accountable.
Thank you for admitting your actions were wrong, and at least owning up to it.

quote:
"though i am married, i am still a flirt, that's just me.

like it or not."
Well ... I didn't like it and sent out that message loud and clear.  As a consenting adult, you are free to behave however you wish with any consenting adult of your choice.  However, you took it into the teen area of this site, and it was later substantiated.  Unfortunately, this to me was not appropriate behavior from any adult posting at this site, and I wanted my feelings known about it.  

I am not that naive that I don't know millions of people flirt back and forth on the Internet for some very strange reason, and that is their business, but you openly admitted to doing your flirting in our teen area, that is what I reacted to.  The fact you are an adult you claim, age 22, and the playing field you chose was with teens from 13-19, not yet consenting adults, was my objection.  It would be wrong by any standard of the law, if when a teen were to go along with an advance by an adult, that the initiating adult did not stop that interaction in its tracks.
quote:
who will judge me?

You are your own judge, and jury I am afraid.  

I want to explain something so there is no mistake that I accused you, and did not judge you. I was going to send you an email but this serves as a good example to other adults even thinking of doing the same thing you did, for if I find out I will indeed do this again.  I accused you of something I felt wrong, quite openly not because I am self-righteous, but I am sure all for sticking up for people who can't defend themselves and in this case, it was a minor.

I didn't judge you, I don't even know you, nor do I judge anyone for that matter, lest they judge me.         You don’t know me either, so I could be lying right, and be that self-righteous person you think even?  I will tell you this though, when I don't like something someone does to the point it bothers me, what kind of a person would I be to let it slide and say nothing.  I can't imagine a world without change, change is good, healthy, and beneficial to all concerned in the change.

Thank you for your admission for having done wrong in this particular case, and I hope you have learned from it, now perhaps a change will be good?  Starting with your staying out of the Teen Forum.  You came here April, 2001 and were 19 then if you are 22 now, but sadly we all grow older.  Thank you for understanding.

  
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36 posted 12-08-2004 09:39 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

try quoting a few other phrases too.
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37 posted 12-08-2004 11:33 PM       View Profile for Ratleader   Email Ratleader   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ratleader's Home Page   View IP for Ratleader

Cripes, I was worried about everything when I was a kid....prolly why I'm a twitch now.....

Now the serious answer.....It is a hard choice and only you can make it -- unless you stay at home until your parents change the locks... I was lucky, my girlfriend lived two thousand miles away...so no choice, move out -- waaay out!

The biggest single factors are the easiest to miss....if you stay, it is a trap that you'll have to be resolute in order to avoid....so easy to stay where it's so easy, and you just do. Then one day you're 34 and living with your mother, and you don't know how you got there.

On the other hand, if you go you'll very likely be living on cheese sandwiches for a while....but once you get traction you'll look in the mirror and see a man. This ole guy says, get steady work and a little in the bank first, then launch.

Your note about being afraid of it tells me which way you'll go....and that down inside you know you're ready....but get that job and money first. I didn't/couldn't, and boy did that suck....just try camping in spare room of your girlfriend's parents' house while you're doing it........

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38 posted 12-08-2004 11:43 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

thanks rat.
would you like to share some of your philosophies?
lol
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39 posted 12-09-2004 10:20 AM       View Profile for Nightshade   Email Nightshade   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nightshade's Home Page   View IP for Nightshade

Dreamchild, I was the first one to comment on this thread and have watched how it has billowed. Now, if you are grown-up, married with a tiny person who will be dependent upon YOU for the next, oh, eighteen years or so about to be born ... why do you have so much time to spend on the computer? Are you employed in such a way that you have ample time on your hands? That would be wonderful as your child will get lots of needed attention from Daddy. Hopefully the pay is efficient as diapers do not come cheap anymore. Does your job offer you medical benefits? I do hope so. Your wife must be an angel of sorts. She does know that you flirt, right?
  Enough jabbing you in the ribs.
I was married at 17, gave birth to a daughter at 18, divorced 14 years later. Then it got worse. But ... all decisions were mine. I still make the wrong decisions now and then, but I have no one but myself to blame. Dreamchild ... open your eyes and say hello to life. You are at the wheel and you have come to a four corner stop. Now what? You can't sit too long making small talk with your passengers without getting ticketed.     All the best, Chris
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40 posted 12-09-2004 10:59 AM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

i work 6 days a week, full time, w/ benefits. but most of my free time is spent at home. which is what i have learned grown, married folks that work do. just so happens that the computer is my favorite toy, so i play with it alot, like i'm sure you don't.

my wife is an angel. she laughs at my flirtatiousness, and thinks i am the sexiest man in the world. she married me because she loves who i am; hard working, caring, playful, and flirtatious. she allows me to be me, and i love her for that.

i wish more people were like my wifey.
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41 posted 12-09-2004 12:38 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Just when I thought I was through with this thread. Seems you strongly implied you were through in teen. Yet you continue to post there. Personally I don't think you belong in there based on your behavior. Was that an insincere implication?
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42 posted 12-09-2004 01:18 PM       View Profile for Nightshade   Email Nightshade   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nightshade's Home Page   View IP for Nightshade

Congratulations DreamChild, sounds like you have a perfect life. So, in other words, there was really no need for any of us to answer your initial question. Congratulations once more ..... for pulling the wool over at least this lamb's eyes.
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43 posted 12-09-2004 01:40 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

i pull no wool.
it's not my fault you were blinded.
you point fingers, and ask questions later.
you really don't know me, so stop insinuating things.

i am young and free.
i'll continue to post in teen,
i like teensters. most of my friends are still teens. i'll still share, but with more discretion.

please feel free to continue sharing your input as well. you can't kill me.
i can only grow stronger.

keep me posted!
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44 posted 12-09-2004 01:47 PM       View Profile for Nightshade   Email Nightshade   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nightshade's Home Page   View IP for Nightshade

"i pull no wool.
it's not my fault you were blinded.
you point fingers, and ask questions later.
you really don't know me, so stop insinuating things."


I don't believe I was ever blinded, rather my eyes were opened with what I have been through. You really don't know me either, "young and free" man. So on that note I will bid you farewell.  Chris
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45 posted 12-09-2004 02:06 PM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

see ya later i hope.
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46 posted 12-10-2004 01:17 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Adultery by Design.
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47 posted 12-11-2004 01:57 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Well, since you are older than me, and yet you still seem to feel the need to act like a 16 year old, you probably don't have any business being married or a dad... you probably should stay at home with mom and try to grow up. But it seems like you don't have that option anymore, so maybe you should consider getting on with it and growing up.
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48 posted 12-11-2004 02:49 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

DC--sweetie?

I am not going to stand in line to toss stones at you.

I am married. I am a flirt. (and I had to say that lest you think I am on your case regarding that--'cause I am not.)

And one thing I haven't forgotten is that you were once one of our "teen forum" members, of which we are all very protective.

Seems to me you're in a bit of a bind too.

I think all I can offer is a bit of advice here.

You really need to get your head out of this forum, and drop that defensive chip.

You've got a child on the way, lovie.

Life is no longer all about you.

By all means, keep being yourself and expressing yourself, but I do advise you to be as honest as the day is long.

Because your days are about to get longer.

I sincerely hope you find a way, and I don't mind if you grieve the end of your childhood.

Just do it quick.

You should be celebrating someone else's childhood soon.

Funny, I don't think the gravity of fatherhood hit my husband either--until he held his son.

And oh, I promise you, he's still bitching about his childhood, and he still flirts, and he still has moments when he wants his mommy. (Sometimes I call her for him and trust me, it doesn't take long for him to regret wanting his mommy either.)

*shaking my head*

But looking past all the drama here, I see a couple of kids who are having a kid. And sweetie, that's not going to go away.

So I wish you, all that your name implies--a dream child. I hope your baby is born healthy and happy and you have the pride and ability to become a Dad to the child you fathered.

I sincerely wish you love and luck and pray that you continue to respect and celebrate your wife and mother of your child as a wonderful woman.

And now? If I may suggest? Let this be, and go do what you have to do.

Peace and hugs and happy holidays.
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49 posted 12-11-2004 03:32 AM       View Profile for ~DreamChild~   Email ~DreamChild~   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ~DreamChild~

okay, serenity. sounds like the best word yet, and lotsa folks here are full of them.

ya know, i'm not really defending myself,
i just like seeing how pitifully people relate to something different.

it's really quite amazing...
 
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