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BluesSerenade
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since 2001-10-23

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By the Seaside

0 posted 2004-03-01 08:43 PM

Lots of talk about Lord of the Rings. I read the books when I was a young girl, and was fascinated then as I am now by the trilogy. My question/opinion has to do with the movie "Monster." Did you see it, and if so what do you make of it? I for one found the subject matter disturbing and horribly sad that such a tragedy had the power to turn this women into the monster she became. On the other hand I am fascinated by true stories, and the fact that real time nightmares of this magnitude are a harsh reality and a fact of life. I think Charlize Theron did an incredible acting job and I commend her for her conviction to the character role she played. I also admired her acceptance speech, when she thanked her leading lady Christina Ricci, the unsung hero in the movie.

What's your take?

Jamie
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since 2000-06-26

Posts 3168
Blue Heaven

1 posted 2004-03-01 10:40 PM

Hi--just a note-- the movie was very loosely based on a true story-- it portrayed her as a victim--and if the storyline had indeed been true-she would have been. The facts simply don't back it up. This is another hollywood twist to make the movie more 'watchable'-- to simply portray her as the killer she was wouldn't have been the stuff moneymakers are made of. In fact the families of the men who she killed are quite upset at the portrayal of their lost ones.

One of the primetime news shows ( 60 min.. 20/20 etc..not sure which ) had a pretty good segment on it.

BluesSerenade
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since 2001-10-23

Posts 10549
By the Seaside

2 posted 2004-03-01 10:58 PM

Hi Jamie and thanks for replying. I didn't see the show you are talking about, but I appreciate the insight. I do not think the movie was something to celebrate and I would certainly not expect the "victims" loved ones to endorse it. I don't pretend to have walked in her shoes or the road she went down. But from what I understand she was a "victim" of circumstance in her own right. I think it takes a lot of courage for an actress to commit herself to that kind of a role, hence the reason for my post.

Christopher

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Member Rara Avis

since 1999-08-02

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Purgatorial Incarceration

3 posted 2004-03-01 11:05 PM

Charles Manson was a victim too.

Sad but true.

The road doesn't always lead to the wizard and is rarely paved in gold.

(how pithy christopher...

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BluesSerenade
Member Patricius

since 2001-10-23

Posts 10549
By the Seaside

4 posted 2004-03-01 11:34 PM

I shouldn't have posted this here,
because there is more I want to say, and I can't say it here.
But I am pretty sure Charles Manson "willingly" altered his brain.

Anyway, I'm glad you stopped by Christopher.

Opeth
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since 2001-12-13

Posts 1543
The Ravines

5 posted 2004-03-02 10:09 AM

I was going to go see this movie, but now I am not sure since the way you describe it is a film with the message, feel sorry for the murderer, it was not her fault, but the fault of others.

This movie sounds the opposite of a very good film titled Freeway, which basically is similiar with respect to a young woman who commits multiple murders, but the film never feels sorry for her and she blames no one else, including her family upbringing. Right or wrong, she takes full responsibility for her actions.

Christopher

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Member Rara Avis

since 1999-08-02

Posts 8296
Purgatorial Incarceration

6 posted 2004-03-02 01:59 PM

He did, Bluesy, but he was also abused and molested (to an incredible degree, if one can attach 'levels' to such a thing) when he was younger... by his [family], was put in a "boy's home" at a very young age, where the sexual, physical, emotional, and verbal abuse continued. If you take a look at the events that led up to his adult life, it is understandable how he became the monster he did.

I don't for a moment suggest that it was right, but it's hard to see how he could have made other choices based on his past.

As to this post being placed here, you can either asked for it to be moved to what you feel is a more appropriate forum, or start a new thread.

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