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25 posted 01-14-2004 01:01 PM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

HEY BRI!!! your code was the same as mine! LOL, are we twin spirits?
mine was:
I 44, N 56, F 33, P22

Does it mean I'll win if I play BINGO?????
LOL, I took it a second time and got ISFP
numbers were 56,1,33,22  (a moment of midnitesun moodiness maybe?)

Don't know what it all means, no time to read today. DANG, hope I didn't reveal too much, as I rather enjoy a bit of mystery attached to my persona.

be back after disgusting household CHORES
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Yay! Here is mine!



INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving

Strength of the preferences %
11 33 56 33

* slightly expressed introvert
* moderately expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed feeling personality
* moderately expressed perceiving personality


"Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
by Joe Butt

Profile: INFP
Revision: 2.4
Date of Revision: 20 Jul 03
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"I remember the first albatross I ever saw. ... At intervals, it arched forth its vast archangel wings, as if to embrace some holy ark. Wondrous flutterings and throbbings shook it. Though bodily unharmed, it uttered cries, as some king's ghost in super natural distress. Through its inexpressible, strange eyes, methought I peeped to secrets not below the heavens. As Abraham before the angels, I bowed myself..." --(Herman Melville, Moby Dick)

INFPs never seem to lose their sense of wonder. One might say they see life through rose-colored glasses. It's as though they live at the edge of a looking-glass world where mundane objects come to life, where flora and fauna take on near-human qualitie s.

INFP children often exhibit this in a 'Calvin and Hobbes' fashion, switching from reality to fantasy and back again. With few exceptions, it is the NF child who readily develops imaginary playmates (as with Anne of Green Gables's "bookcase girlfriend"--h er own reflection) and whose stuffed animals come to life like the Velveteen Rabbit and the Skin Horse:

"...Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand..." (the Skin Horse)

INFPs have the ability to see good in almost anyone or anything. Even for the most unlovable the INFP is wont to have pity.

Rest you, my enemy,
Slain without fault,
Life smacks but tastelessly
Lacking your salt!
Stuck in a bog whence naught
May catapult me,
Come from the grave, long-sought,
Come and insult me!."
--(Steven Vincent Benet, Elegy for an Enemy)

Their extreme depth of feeling is often hidden, even from themselves, until circumstances evoke an impassioned response:

"I say, Queequeg! Why don't you speak? It's I--Ishmael." But all remained still as before. ... Something must have happened. Apoplexy!
... And running up after me, she caught me as I was again trying to force open the door. ... "Have to burst it open," said I, and was running down the entry a little, for a good start, when the landlady caught me, again vowing I should not break down her premises; but I tore from her, and with a sudden bodily rush dashed myself full against the mark."--(Melville, Moby Dick)

Of course, not all of life is rosy, and INFPs are not exempt from the same disappointments and frustrations common to humanity. As INTPs tend to have a sense of failed competence, INFPs struggle with the issue of their own ethical perfection, e.g., perfo rmance of duty for the greater cause. An INFP friend describes the inner conflict as not good versus bad, but on a grand scale, Good vs. Evil. Luke Skywalker in Star Wars depicts this conflict in his struggle between the two sides of "The Force." Although the dark side must be reckoned with, the INFP believes that good ultimately triumphs.

Some INFPs have a gift for taking technical information and putting it into layman's terms. Brendan Kehoe's Zen and the Art of the Internet is one example of this "de-jargoning" talent in action.

Functional Analysis

INFPs live primarily in a rich inner world of introverted Feeling. Being inward-turning, the natural attraction is away from world and toward essence and ideal. This introversion of dominant Feeling, receiving its data from extraverted intuition, must be the source of the quixotic nature of these usually gentle beings. Feeling is caught in the approach- avoidance bind between concern both for people and for All Creatures Great and Small, and a psycho-magnetic repulsion from the same. The "object," be it homo sapiens or a mere representation of an organism, is valued only to the degree that the object contains some measure of the inner Essence or greater Good. Doing a good deed, for example, may provide intrinsic satisfaction which is only secondary to the greater good of striking a blow against Man's Inhumanity to Mankind.

Extraverted intuition faces outward, greeting the world on behalf of Feeling. What the observer usually sees is creativity with implied good will. Intuition spawns this type's philosophical bent and strengthens pattern perception. It combines as auxiliary with introverted Feeling and gives rise to unusual skill in both character development and fluency with language--a sound basis for the development of literary facility. If INTPs aspire to word mechanics, INFPs would be verbal artists.

Sensing is introverted and often invisible. This stealth function in the third position gives INFPs a natural inclination toward absent- mindedness and other-worldliness, however, Feeling's strong people awareness provides a balancing, mitigating effect. This introverted Sensing is somewhat categorical, a subdued version of SJ sensing. In the third position, however, it is easily overridden by the stronger functions.

The INFP may turn to inferior extraverted Thinking for help in focusing on externals and for closure. INFPs can even masquerade in their ESTJ business suit, but not without expending considerable energy. The inferior, problematic nature of Extraverted Thinking is its lack of context and proportion. Single impersonal facts may loom large or attain higher priority than more salient principles which are all but overlooked.

Famous INFPs:

Homer
Virgil
Mary, mother of Jesus
St. John, the beloved disciple
St. Luke; physician, disciple, author
William Shakespeare, bard of Avon
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (Evangeline)
A. A. Milne (Winnie the Pooh)
Laura Ingalls Wilder (Little House on the Prairie)
Helen Keller, deaf and blind author
Carl Rogers, reflective psychologist, counselor
Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers' Neighborhood)
Dick Clark (American Bandstand)
Donna Reed, actor (It's a Wonderful Life)
Jacqueline Kennedy Onasis
Neil Diamond, vocalist
Tom Brokaw, news anchor
James Herriot (All Creatures Great and Small)
Annie Dillard (Pilgrim at Tinker Creek)
James Taylor, vocalist
Julia Roberts, actor (Conspiracy Theory, Pretty Woman) Scott Bakula (Quantum Leap)
Terri Gross (PBS's "Fresh Air")
Amy Tan (author of The Joy-Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife)
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
Lisa Kudrow ("Phoebe" of Friends)
Fred Savage ("The Wonder Years")

Fictional INFPs:
Anne (Anne of Green Gables))
Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)
Deanna Troi (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Wesley Crusher (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Doctor Julian Bashir (Star Trek: Deep Space 9)
Bastian (The Neverending Story)
E.T.: the ExtraTerrestrial
Doug Funny, Doug cartoons
Tommy, Rug Rats cartoons
Rocko, Rocko's Modern Life cartoons"





Love,
Noah Eaton


"You'll find something that's enough to keep you
But if the bright lights don't receive you
You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20
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(giggles) Just had to add I knew I had to have been of the same heart as Fred Savage and Rocko! Still can hum that theme song, with that B-52's nostalgia in the surf guitar and that familiar cowbell voice!

"Rocko's modern life...

Rocko's Modern Life!

Doo, doo, doo, doo-doo!"


Hehehe!



Love,
Noah Eaton


"You'll find something that's enough to keep you
But if the bright lights don't receive you
You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20
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28 posted 01-14-2004 01:42 PM       View Profile for Susan Caldwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Susan Caldwell

Famous INFPs:

Homer
Virgil
Mary, mother of Jesus

When did they take the test?

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29 posted 01-14-2004 01:50 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

giggles with Susan--

gotta love the designation of the fictional characters too--how subjective is that???

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30 posted 01-14-2004 01:52 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

while god was in diapers....
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31 posted 01-14-2004 01:55 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

which leads to the question--who diapered God?

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHiggle...sputter-wink
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Did it matter, at that point, if God was diapered?

And what kind of Jung questions was Mary asked?

"Do you see yourself Mothering the Messiah?"

That can't bode well for introversion...
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33 posted 01-14-2004 01:59 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

God was diapered by his mother Gae, who stepped outside of time many many eons ago to be formed of nothing and everything.
She is now lost to memory for most and herself was born of the first light...
before there was man, or thought, or logic,
hers was the first thought

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34 posted 01-14-2004 02:05 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

"interesting..."

serenity nods.

"go on..."



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Serenity, this just keeps getting better 'n better!

Susan..don't worry about the numbers m'dear...watch the stories unfold!!!
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Hrm....if diapered, who would know best how to pin it? The obvious answer was caught in the back of Ron's van!
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I could you know... lol... and explain how it was that god became personified as a man..and that jesus was a man... and his mother..a mere human woman, but elevated through immaculate lust and conception by god to carry a "savior"

it was all written by Emadius as translations from ancient Sumeria were unearthed in the year 2090 AD right after the last War for Oil was fought.

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38 posted 01-14-2004 02:13 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

YES--and now, now we're talkin' archetypes!

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39 posted 01-14-2004 02:33 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

Really??? what are those???

Gae grew tired and wished for another like herself to speak to and thought of this only long enough to form the idea of others. Once the idea was complete she formed an image to wear and one for the others that resembled her, but did not match her for beauty.

Completed thoughts became solid as she willed and God was born.
Gae had no way relativity to judge from or by and found god, her son, to be small and in need of constant thought to survive. If she forgot to think of him for very long he would wane in and out of anything solid until she had strengthened him with her own will. ( he, him, and other male designations are used only for clarity to the reader)

In time he grew stronger and was able to will himself into existance without the constant feeding by Gae.

many eons passed with each speaking to the other and willing into existance many small miracles of energy. Yet, in time, god willed into existance a group of entities created in the image of gae, but played only at their construction leaving many a weakness and great fragility. He called these entities his children and placed them into a small corner of the whole called universe.

In time, these entities, who would be entertained by god from time to time, became jealous of the stories he told of Gae. Gae, would not after all entertain them as god did, and added nothing to the nurturing of such a mistake as they were that might encourage god to continue his childish games.
In the end, as god had explained he was born of gae, they called her a woman, and all women were then of gae, while men were of god and much superior....


it goes on and on.. and on and on..
yet the Sumerians had a knack for telling long stories which sometimes were found to be only the tales of a drunken scribe who indulged in too much wine, so much of the story is discounted as fabrication.... but there were at least 7 accounts of the same story found in different locations and they are considered to be reliable... not to mention true..

if you have a hard time finding the book.. let me know. there are not too many copies available yet as it has not even been printed... I might be persuaded to part with my copy or at least send you the shadow of where it will be and you can read between the greys to see what an impressive telling it is.

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40 posted 01-14-2004 02:40 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

smiles.

Copies of the book abound--as you know--it's the original that is the elusive holy grail.



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Raising hand...LOL...

Truly, I find it very interesting, all of it, but the first person that book should be loaned to is Serenity...just because it will give her a smile.
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the original she seeks or the one by emadius?

I have a copy of the original somewhere in the basement, packed carefully with two bags of marbles and a half box of ten year old twinkies ( only there to age as everyone knows the half life of a  twinkie is 238 years) last time I consulted the book it reminded me of how dangerous it was to have absolute truths.. so I packed it away again and may someday send it back to gae..
soon as I find her new address, I understand she moved about the turn of the 19th century in search of someplace not quite so prone to the smokes of industrial cities. She forwarded me her address and I placed it next to the copy of Understanding Alexander the Great in 6 easy steps. But, the cats may have eaten it during the feb ice storm of a few years ago..as they were on an all fiber dies at the time and I was not always there to shred newspaper for them, so they became quite the scavengers. Addresses, magazines, important proclamations all just vanished into the maws of felines hungry for fiber...

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43 posted 01-14-2004 02:54 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Cap?

We still have hope.

Cats are known for having such short digestive tracts, that usually their meals are only partially digested upon expulsion.

That said--we need a volunteer to search for clues--anybody?

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Not to worry ser... I began the search for the clues immediately upon finding out the cats were involved..I knew then I would have to search through a lot of poop to find even a clue. I don't mind such a dirty job in fact..it in part allows me a great deal of privacy..as no one is too keen on being around a poop sifter like me.

Still hope? now there is a statement to question..for hope is a construct of us... the playthings of god.. and may in part be only a deception propogated by his capricious nature
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45 posted 01-14-2004 03:06 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Yep. Still hope.



but you know that.

(and btw, did you take that test again, or did you rely on old results?)

I am glad you are back m'friend..
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I took the test again... very strongly introverted.. and borderline on the t and f
pretty strong on the N and the J was moderate.

part of the issue is, of course, that I to some degree know what the answers are leading to as I made a study of the test and the book please understand me. Without a new series of questions and one more carefully worded to eliminate my propensity to self fullfill the  results..it is only a partial measurement of my personality type.

INTJ's by the way... are also called masterminds..LMAO... I'd do good to master my own mind.. or a part of it ..

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47 posted 01-14-2004 03:19 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Yawp.

I agree.

The thing is, there is no number, no pigeon-hole to define us.

I really like that about the psyche too.

Thanks all for helping me on ONE morning's journey.

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My head hurts....

and Ron is responsible...

"sit on top of the world and tell me how you feel...'cause what you feel is what I feel for you.."
~Dido~

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no.. no number or pigeon hole to define us completely, but an understanding of our own and others nature does foster a better grasp on the "why" of people and of ourself. To dismiss jung and his constructs is possible, just as it is to dismiss Freud for his sonclusions, yet it is not wise for us to dismiss any search for understanding. In all the few books I have read and studied over the decades..I have found something to aid in putting a perspective around the human condition or my own. No one book..and no one truth... absolutes are as dangerous to freedom and to freedom of thought as are preconcieved ideas and prejudice. I would not be told, but be taught to teach myself...

and with that..lol

I will finally shut up... and go away again..


 
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