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Miah
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0 posted 11-08-2003 12:51 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah


I don't know if you heard about the outbreak of hepatitis A at a Chi-Chi's restruant in Beaver County Pennsylvania.  


Article here: http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.asp?brd=2305


I was wondering do you think all food service workers should wear gloves?  Do you feel safe eating out? How can you prevent this from happening to you?
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1 posted 11-08-2003 03:38 PM       View Profile for PhaerieChild   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PhaerieChild

YES!!!!!!! I think all cooks and food preparers should wear gloves when handling food. I also think ALL restaurant personnel should go through the same food handlers class that they do in Las Vegas and should be required to carry a food handler's card as well. I own a restaurant and it isn't easy finding people willing to work in a place where gloves are required but they here and they are required to change them often especially after handling meats. The wait staff isn't required to wear gloves though they are required to sanitize their hands often. There is a pump bottle of hand sanitizer at the break station and in the kitchen, bathrooms, and dish areas and they do use it. I have to replace it quite often. We also sanitize tables with a food grade spray after people leave so the next people will have a sanitary place to eat. It runs into a little money but it is more than worth it. I would never want anyone getting sick in my restaurant.
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2 posted 11-08-2003 04:03 PM       View Profile for Greeneyes   Email Greeneyes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Greeneyes

Hate to say it, but I dont eat out any more....for reasons you have stated here, and for other reasons regarding the same issue.....it's a shame really, cause I love a good night out with friends....but cant bring my self to do it....I think too that if you require a "drug" test for an office job, they should (and I know some do) require the same with extensive "screening" for those that work in the food area.....MHO

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Miah
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3 posted 11-08-2003 11:21 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

I agree with you both.  My parents went to eat a a well known fast food place. My mom went to use the restroom and saw that an employee was cleaning down the walls with a wet rag, when my mom left the restroom, following the employee, she then saw the employee use that same rag to wipe down the food bar. Needless to say my parents left.

Oh one more thing, years ago about 10 my parents and I orded take out from another fast food place, not the same one as above. Anyway, when my dad dumped out his fries there was a used band aid in the bottom of the container.  It was nasty.

[This message has been edited by Miah (11-08-2003 11:23 PM).]

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Miah~ what is it with PA and Chi-Chi's...remember about 15 yrs ago Allentown Chi-Chio's had an outbreak too LOL

*thank God i can cook*

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Miah
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5 posted 11-09-2003 11:44 AM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

This is no lie, Friday night my parents and grandmother went out to eat in another town near by.  That night my grandma got food poisioned.  she is better today.  We were worried for awhile.  I think I am cooking in tonight!!
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I cook "in" all the time. I guess it's safe. The mouse who lives in my stove looks pretty healthy. *wince*
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I hate to admit it, but i happen to work at a "well known" fast food restaraunt. the incidents i see you guys talk about don't suprise me...but i have to tell you, just because these things happened once or twice, doesn't mean that all "restaraunts" are bad. I am currently in the process of becoming a crew trainer, meaning i will be training new employee's the proper way to cook and serve food, also the proper cleaning procedures. where i work though, the state does not require the cooks in our restaraunt to wear gloves. here's why: when we place meat on the grill, it is frozen. yes, we do touch it with our hands, but we don't touch it when we remove it. we use a metal spatula and a rubber one to remove the cooked product. again RaW MeAt DoEs NoT CoMe In CoNtaCt with cooked meat, therefore there is no need for gloves since the people cooking do not touch any cooked meat, or anything else. if they decide to switch stations and make sandwiches, they are required to wash thier hands with antibacterial soap and warm water before switching. actually if we did have to wear gloves while cooking, it could be even more dangerous because the grease from the meat splatters on our hands quite often. imagine what would happen if it splattered onto a latex or plastic glove? or if we accidently touched the extremely hot grill while laying meat patties down? not groovy good. nope. we also check the temperatures of the meat regulerly to make sure that all bacteria has No chances to grow. as far as cleaning, we use clean towels soaked in bleach, and use one towel for the tabels, one for the chairs, ect. and throw them in a seperate bucket for dirty towels when finished. if we have something else to do like cleaning the bathroom, we use seperate towels for that as well. i think the best way you can determine if the restaurant is safe, is to look around and observe. depending on how busy it is, are things neat and organised? especially in lobby. if it's really busy, don't expect it to be spotless, but do expect it in good shape, if it is slow, do expect cleanliness. are the areas behind the counter fairly clean and organized also? are the employees friendly? do the majority of them look like they know what they're doing? also, when you order a sandwich with beef or chicken ect. check the inside of the patty before you take a bite. is it pink slimy and cold? or does it apear cooked and feel warm? if it looks cooked, feels cooked, then chances are, it is. if not, you may want to show it to a manager at the store and ask them to replace it. (but please don't yell at them, it's nice to be polite)...commin sense in just being aware of these things, and trust should prevent any incidents. if you don't think you can trust them to cook safe food, then don't buy from them.  
   erm...i hope i havn't said too much here, but i hope this helps you guys get a better experience out of the fast food or slow food restaraunts if you decide to visit. =)

               - River
Miah
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8 posted 11-16-2003 07:57 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

No, not all restruants are bad.  However, it does just take one time to be lax.  Second, there are tons of restruants that wear gloves and have no problems, you don't have to use them while your at the grill, but you do if your handling buns,lunch meants etc..etc.. which I think should be worn. I think it is a good idea, like you said to wash your hands often when preparing meals.  I eat out all the time, I hate cooking too much to be scared of eating out. LOL
 
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