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Essorant
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since 2002-08-10

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0 posted 2003-07-31 02:49 PM

Is one still allowed to call him Poet or poetic if he eats junk food, watches TV, plays a computer game, thinks often of love-making, nudity, touching, turns his eyes when he sees a woman very attractive, even immodestly alluring? These must seem very unpoetic and coarse, and if the more depressed he gets, the thicker. If he is poet or poetic at all is he falsly, or only so slenderly and dividedly because of these streaks of vanity and coarseness?

[This message has been edited by Essorant (07-31-2003 02:58 PM).]

Janet Marie
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1 posted 2003-07-31 04:17 PM

Poetry is what one writes ... not what one is or does...I have seem examples where murderers in prison wrote like Shakespeare.
Its the things that inspire us that allow us to write, though lifestyle and issues like depression will effect ones ability or perhaps quanity and quality of work produced.

Toad
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since 2002-06-16

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2 posted 2003-07-31 05:38 PM

You seem to be describing me perfectly.

I eat junk food, watch TV, play computer games, think often about making love, nudity, touching and am prone to having my head turned by pretty females.

I wouldn’t describe myself as coarse but I wouldn’t describe myself as a Poet either so I’d have to say I fit your description almost perfectly. Of course your hypothesis would fall over if you can find one Poet who fits the description but is demonstrably poetic.

Anybody out there fit the bill?

Janet Marie
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3 posted 2003-07-31 06:02 PM

Yeah... HE is #2 on this thread.

"How could I stand here with you and not be moved by you."

LH

serenity blaze
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since 2000-02-02

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4 posted 2003-07-31 06:30 PM

Who knows who will be considered a poet by the judges of history?

But I'm willing to bet that Shakespeare, Donne, Dickinson, Wilke, and Milton? ALL of them farted occasionally.

Aenimal
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5 posted 2003-07-31 08:20 PM

Not to mention quite a few literary figures were drinkers. Absinthe drinkers mind you and you don't exactly mix that with coke or punch..although

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Kielo
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since 2002-02-11

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6 posted 2003-08-01 01:34 AM

What you do has nothing to do with what you are.

Kielo

I'll never know the cost, but all of Him is more than enough for all of me....

Marshalzu

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7 posted 2003-08-01 05:07 PM

I think that I am still prone to the perception that your not a poet unless you drink absinthne, know at least three other poets and live in a metropolitian area but you automatically qualify as being a poet when your dead...

serenity blaze
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8 posted 2003-08-01 05:41 PM

Damn.

That's a tough club to get into.

I'll pass.

Kielo
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9 posted 2003-08-01 05:51 PM

I think what I'm trying to say but can't find the words for, is that poets are not superhuman. They're just people. No better than anyone else, and no worse. Just average, like-everyone-else, people. The only difference is that they happen to be talented writers instead of athletes. Does that mean that someone can't be both? No. A poet is someone with a talent, and that is all that they are. They are not called to a higher morale code, or to abstain from "bad things" like some form of Love's Labour Lost mockery. They're just people.

If I've gone a little overboard here, please forgive me. I'm a little tired, and I'm not sure how many times I've repeated myself, and I'm too tired to check.

Kielo

I'll never know the cost, but all of Him is more than enough for all of me....

vlraynes
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since 2000-07-25

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Somewhere... out there...

10 posted 2003-08-01 08:22 PM

Um...yeah...the initiation is a bit much
for me...I think I'll pass too.

But Karen?...there's always the chess club.

Marshalzu

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11 posted 2003-08-01 08:26 PM

I think I was just trying as hard as possible to disqualify myself

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