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Local Parasite
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0 posted 2003-04-17 07:43 PM


I've been thinking a lot lately... one of the reasons I write is so that I can outlive myself somehow, so that I can make an impact on the planet and live on beyond my death.

So I'm curious to ask all of you... 100 years down the road, when you're studied in textbooks by english students, which is the poem you're going to be remembered for?  Are there any lines in particular from your poetry that you think might inspire future generations, and keep your memory alive?  Which poets from your time will you be associated with?

And if there was a writeup in an anthology about your life and experiences, what might it disclose?  Don't be afraid to get dreamy... include things like "became president at such-and-such age", or whatever tickles your fancy.  I'm just trying to see if other people dream about the same things as I do.  

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Janet Marie
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1 posted 2003-04-17 10:18 PM


But Brian...
I dream about YOUR POETRY.   LOL


( I'll be back...have to moth ponder this one)

Cool question by the way.

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2 posted 2003-04-18 10:49 AM




Oh Brian, that is the reason I write too now! I started writing in February of 2000 because I was suffering from depression and I met my sophomore English teacher Mr. Ernewein that year. He noticed I was troubled and he asked me what was wrong and I told him my honest emotions and then he said I wasn't alone and he shared his life story with me, which is phenominal to me, and because writing became his epiphany to release the troubles in him, he encouraged me to take up the pen too.

At first I wrote so I can share my tears and my conduit of sorrow out so others could understand me. After doing so for a year and a half, I now feel alive with the support I've found and now write to live, write to appreciate, write to create, and when I grow up I dream of having a family and leaving them words to cherish forever, to teach and console them.



In my most honest opinion, I don't think I have a poem in mind as of yet I imagine everyone remembering me by years from now. I believe if you just keep writing you get more experienced, and, in most cases, the last poem you write is probably the best one! My answer is...I'll just have to wait and see!

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton


And that's the most wonderful thing about creating. It will always be a mystery.

***Shakira***

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3 posted 2003-04-18 12:19 PM


Good question, mate. I'll be back to this one.

~Titus

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4 posted 2003-04-18 01:07 PM


"when you're studied in textbooks by english students,"

I couldn't help but think that I am more likely to be studied in PSYCHOLOGY textbooks...

and as to a bio? I think I've written quite a lot of it already--here on the blue pages.

But yep, I dream...

"and now? For Best Original Screenplay? The winner is..."

and that's when I do my neat little trick of falling up a flight of stairs.




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5 posted 2003-04-18 01:11 PM


Well, words will only be used in the most isolated times and places; but even at that, people will have to use numbers and programs to interpret and to calculate the diction and translate the feelings and the meanings etc.  Everything will be so accurate that by and by we won't need to contemplate anything anymore; and poetry will seem really crude and primitive.   That's why I just write for the moment, while we can appreciate what is near and dear, what is here and now...let the future be what it will, I want to be something to the present!  And even if people only notice me for a minute, that is enough for me
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6 posted 2003-04-18 01:18 PM


First thought that came to mind was:

I AM /pip/Forum4/HTML/003204.html

May be something better suited, but let me dwell on it a bit.

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7 posted 2003-04-18 01:32 PM


Quoting Essorant:

"Everything will be so accurate that by and by we won't need to contemplate anything anymore; and poetry will seem really crude and primitive."  
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Egads...if thats the "future" then let me off this train now...I dont wanna live in a place where poetry isnt valued.

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8 posted 2003-04-18 04:14 PM


Ok...Im back to try and answer this..I liked this question because it made me look deeper for all the reasons I write. But I'm not sure I can answer it from the perspective you are asking though.

I write for the release of the emotions, to try and put into words the things I'm feeling so intensely that I cant move past it till I find a way to define it and write it out. In a way its like quieting the voices of rhyme that run in my mind.
So I dont really write with the idea of the future purpose in mind, and my mothy self esteem wont let me think in terms that anything I would say would be held in any high regard 10 years from now more or less be studied in 100 years. But you said to not be afraid to dream big right?

Most of the time I'm just too close to my work and too self critical to be able to look at it unbiasedly so I can only go by the reactions of my peers to help me. To answer your question of is there a certain line that might be remembered--what comes to mind is two lines that I got a lot of feedback and response to, both in replies and in emails. To me that would be how to measure which ones had lasting impact.

In open 19 I posted "Promised Sky" and a couple lines from one particular verse in it garnered some wonderful responses and notes sent:

"But time would not allow that wish
to be granted. For fall was fading.
Still, what had been shared, would not
ever allow winter's regret to set in.

He stood and held out his hand,
lifting her up to meet his waiting kiss.
A kiss that kept so many promises,
it changed the season, then set the sun.



hmmmm... more seasons in change huh Bri?


and then there was a line more recently that also garnered a lot of reaction AND a famous parasite poet told me to "Expect to be quoted on that in classrooms a few hundred years from now."   


"Like shooting stars and the sustaining rain ... I only know how to fall."

from "Blued Brilliance"

So those would have to be my choices...
as for that bio? Well, I have already been dubbed "Queen Moth" by the SUN(shine) ...
So what greater goal could I hope to achieve?

Ok...now when you gonna answer this??

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9 posted 2003-04-18 07:05 PM


People don't understand my poetry now... who the heck is going to read it 100 years from now?

I've never thought about trying to be remembered for anything after death. I'll be dead so what do I care. I do have my dreams, but they have more to do with my life than my death.

Jaime


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10 posted 2003-04-18 08:22 PM


Ess - have you ever read Always Coming Home by Ursula Le Guin? It might interest you..

Brian - Have to think on that one...you see, what comes to mind is that I'm not really writing to the standard I want to yet...so I wouldn't want to be remembered for anything I have written so far. My favourite poem is 'Homeland' and I reread it just the other night and am going to edit even that...extensively..

hmm

K

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11 posted 2003-04-18 09:37 PM


LP, I enjoyed the Q. As for an answer, I guess my mind is too restless tonight to address the future. But mostly? I think I'm still sketching rough images in draft mode that haven't quite filled themselves out with the color intensity of my inner being.
Right now? you're making my brain working too hard since I just consumed my second bottle of "Fat Tire" beer.
(fantastic Colorado brew!)  

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12 posted 2003-04-18 10:50 PM


Well.. I want to be remembered for being a good person, mainly. I'd like to think that I'll make a positive and lasting impact on the world, maybe doing missions work someday? I'd like to be known for my music as well.

When it comes to poetry.. ha! but.. I'll indulge you!

She’s batting her wings with frantic care
She’s knows that she could easily fall from there
But she’s determined to stay in the air…

She sings, and this is her song

Oh, make me Thine forever
And should I fainting be
Lord, let me never ever
Outlive my love for Thee

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13 posted 2003-04-19 12:31 PM


Severn,
What kind of books is that?  
I am reading Boiardo's Orlando Inamorato  right now.  I love romance
Just wish I could find some in real life...

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14 posted 2003-04-19 12:50 PM


My poem, my teacher, my guide is probably the only one worthy.

(¨`·.·´¨) (¨`·.·´¨)
  ·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)¸.·´
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    Love Always
       Kellie

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15 posted 2003-04-19 01:27 AM


Ess it's hard to assign it a genre. Le Guin is a writer of fantasy/sci fi. She published Always Coming Home in 1986, but it took her 5 years to write...

It's set in California in 2000 years time, after the industrial age, and after humans have nearly destroyed themselves via nuclear war and other pollutants...

What's interesting is that far from being a society that is highly technological and 'advanced' Le Guin has created a world that focuses on dance, poetry, music and other forms of artistic expression as the foundation of cultural unity.

Computers exist - and have in fact become so advance they run themselves...everyone's AI nightmore lol - but they're neutral.

It's actually quite Utopian - yet realistic at the same time. Gives one hope for the future of our species even though it's a work of fiction. (There's also romance in it - there's everything in it that makes our humanity...).

I just thought you might respond to it given your prophecy for the future..

K


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16 posted 2003-04-19 02:30 AM


If I were to be remembered for a poem, it would probably be the one I titled "The Lover and the Woman" in Open... I really need to rename it... hehe...

As far as lines, it would take a closer reading to figure that out then I have the ability to give myself to right now. I might be back later, though.

As for dreaming, I would love to be remembered as an actor... Theatre, of course, and a writer. Maybe a scriptwriter. I honestly don't know. So many options...

Great question. Thank you. I'll keep thinking about it.

Kielo

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17 posted 2003-04-19 08:53 PM


Great Questions...
As for the writing I would like to have in poetry books, or Englis textbooks, they would be:
The Other Day /pip/Forum64/HTML/000981.html

And Lonely Highway  /pip/forum64/HTML/001974.html

As for the writers I would be associated with, I can think of a few great ones. Such as:
Local Parasite, serenity blaze, littlewing, Misletoe Angel, Severn, suetang, passing shadows, kristie sue, and any of the others I might have missed...
Anthology write up?? hmmm...
Ringo was hatched in 19, shaken-not stirred, and inducted into the "where is he now" hall of fame in 2007.
I know that is a screwed up answer, however the absolute honesty is this... I couldn't care less what people remember about me 100 years from now. As long as I have made a positive difference in someone's life, and have influenced them to their own greatness with my music, words, or deeds, then I will be able to look out from beyond with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.


When the morning cries and you don't know why...

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18 posted 2003-04-21 04:47 PM


quote:
Which poets from your time will you be associated with?


If someone uttered our names under the same breath, then I'd know that I'd become a poet.

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19 posted 2003-05-01 05:31 PM


Hmmm... I've been thinking on this one. Don't know though which poem I would like to be remembered by. I guess it would have to be "Amazing Grace" for now because of my faith in God.  As for dreams and accomplishments, well I would also like to be remembered as a famous childrens story book writer.  My dream right now is to write for children.    I would love it if poeple remembered me for being helpful, kind, and spiritually strong in the Lord.

I said my peace
a raging piece
I said it here
so you can hear...

A poets heart...  Jenny

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20 posted 2003-05-09 05:48 PM


I wouldn't want to be studied in any textbook by anyone.

I'd rather be remembered for the things I didn't write, or the things I didn't do, or the person I never was...

That way, I will never be duplicated.

Leah

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21 posted 2003-05-10 10:08 PM


In a hundred years, I think I will be remembered for the following poem:


Ode to a Dead Chicken

O feathered friend, great and noble chicken
Whose dulcet voice mirrored Nature's fine arts
You are no longer alive and kick'n
Soft body smashed into many red parts

When you crossed the road on that fateful day
Your sweet round form so delightfully fat
My hand raised in horror, I shouted, stay!
Not before the Mack truck hit with a splat

I shed salty tears in the poultry rain
As your blood-tinged feathers swirled in a cloud
I knew I would never see you again
And I fell to my knees and cried out loud

Unashamed at grins from each passing car
I cradled your giblets in shaking hands
And looked to heaven, at a shining star
Knowing you had passed on to fairer lands

These lonely nights, there is no place to go
Our empty bed is such a heavy load
And though, I wonder, I still do not know
Why on earth did you have to cross that road?

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I dream about it, but I doubt it will ever happen. Since I am still quite young ( but a prodigy ;-) bri ) it seems that all the world is telling me now is that i can't do anything, or i can do everything. i wish to believe both because either way it isn't going to work out for me, because on one side, i won't be remebered, only a dot in time, a person taking up space, on the other hand, i could be the greatest poet ever, but then over time, i would fade, and still won't be remebered. and plus, no one gives you encouragement now. all the songs are about clubs and gettin high and losing everything you have in a one night stand. so maybe it just takes the confidence in yourself, or someone to give it to you. maybe i am off topic, but just a thought. talk to you all later.

luv
riley

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23 posted 2003-05-13 07:50 AM


Now it's our poetry that's going to be in textbooks, right? Not our medical history? I think that'd get a much better write-up than my crappy old writing. However, if I had to choose a piece it'd be "salt in the wound" or another one I've got here called "Erasing Adriana". It'd work well for the bio as well considering it reveals a little too much anyway. Meh - I don't know. who cares about how much a person remembers after you're dead? To quote Jaime:

I've never thought about trying to be remembered for anything after death. I'll be dead so what do I care. I do have my dreams, but they have more to do with my life than my death.

She couldn't have said it better.

~AF~

I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.

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24 posted 2003-05-13 12:08 PM


what memory?
LOL
Since no one even knows me now, why should I expect them to remember me?
have a great week

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25 posted 2003-05-13 12:20 PM


quote:
I'm just trying to see if other people dream about the same things as I do.

we do Brian. . . even when we're old. . . like me. . .

I'd like to be known for my two sets of "Passions Gallery" poems. . . I can see them, published in a book someday, with either pictures of the people who inspired them, or perhaps, words from them, something to leave behind to the future. . .

what poets from my time will I be associated with?  hopefully, as many I as can be associated with. . .lol. . .

a write-up?  wow. . . that's going to take some thinking here. . . I'll get back to you on that one. . .

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26 posted 2003-05-13 05:05 PM


I remember your gallery poems, Sven.  In fact, now that you're back, maybe you should consider adding a few faces... since you've been gone, the roster of piptalk has changed considerably... many new members who have risen to their height and made a definite impact.

Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world.

~Percy Bysshe Shelley

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27 posted 2003-05-13 07:11 PM


Me? In a textbook? 100 years from now?  Are you kidding?  Who would want to read about me?  (Seriously though)

"Tourists are terrorists with cameras. Terrorists are tourists with guns."~Anon.

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28 posted 2003-05-14 10:58 AM


You mean i may be remembered in the future!!?? Whoopee!! Ummm.... let's see now... er...aah...

Can I get back to you on that?

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29 posted 2003-05-15 12:05 PM


Wow... long topic. Okay.

I guess... what would mean the most to me would be to know that I changed just one persons life and made it a little better. That even if the world doesn't know who I am, I meant the world to one person.

As for a poem I'd like remembered... I don't think I've written it yet.

My dreams? At the moment, they're trapped in a tangle of fears. So I guess my most important dream right now is being able to live normally again.

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30 posted 2003-05-25 06:17 PM


You know what Brian my dream has been answered just being part of Passions yanno.  I know I can't write like some others can in here, but what I do comes from somewhere inside of me, and it screams to get out sometimes.  I wanted to have even one little poem in a book that my granddaughters could hold in their hands one day and say, "my Gramma wrote this for me when I was four."  My best fan is my 4 year old granddaughter who insists my poetry be read at bedtime and can rhyme better than I can on any given day, but she thinks I am just fantastic.  Dream - well, I dream that one day she will remember these days, and the poetry I wrote at Passions and read to her when she had sleepovers, nothing earth-shattering I am afraid, but nonetheless that was my dream.

Good question by the way, and I always say, if you dream, make sure that you dream big.  By the way, I do believe some of you will be studied one day if you put your effort into it, and that is what I will dream for some of you.


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31 posted 2003-06-16 12:39 PM


I like this idea. One hundred years from now...to be remembered...wouldnt that make a wonderful challenge?
Anyway...my dream right now, however mundane it may seem, is to finish college and become a nurse. Doesnt seem like to much to dream for huh?
As for the poetry? I have never considered myself a poet...I write because I have to. I dont know one form of poetry from another. I just know there are times that it is just painful to not be able to put words on paper.
As far as poems...I like this one /pip/Forum44/HTML/002582.html.

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32 posted 2003-06-16 03:01 PM


My poetry will remain hidden, a lost book in the dirt. I have only intention of sharing with those who truely care.

Trust me, you will all find out my dreams sooner or later.


home, home, where I wanted to go

-coldplay

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33 posted 2003-07-17 07:07 PM


MaskOfZero - where are the rest of your posts!! I want more!! I've just tried to look up more of your poetry and - there isn't any here. I love your dead chicken poem, rofl..

LP - I often wonder what will be said about me / gleaned from my poems about me after I'm gone.. But..I really can't think right now.. I might pop back here..

Bless your cotten sockies, you poetic maniacs. ^_^

Love - Lynne

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