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What is the best mid-size SUV on the market? Does anyone own one? Can you recommend one?
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Miata!


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SUV does  not stand for Sweet Undersized Vehicle....I don't think...LOL
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You mean the one that comes equipped with standard bungee cords to hold your luggage in place on the back because you have to put the top down because it won't fit inside??...

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Nan, never judge a man by the size of his car.
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... Nope - Wouldn't ever make that mistake...
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Um Lincoln Navigators are awesome and really nice
My mom just bought a 2003 one two weeks ago! ITS SWEET! It's loaded ... dvd players,SunRoof, automatic slide steps and when your sliding steps come out lights come on at night so you can see .. The middle seats recline and there is a back back seat. The seats have heaters on them. It's awesome I love!!!! It has a awesome system in it too. =)

So I would recommend the Lincoln Navigators .. even the Mercury Moutaineer's they are really nice too. (We have both)

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It's not the size of the car that counts, it's how long you can drive it....

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I just bought a Jeep Wrangler. Replaced an old GMC Jimmy SUV.

I like m'Jeep. A LOT.

Ron - a Miata is not an SUV. SUV's run OVER other cars, not UNDER them!
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I'm going to take the environmentalist approach and say... the best SUV is no SUV at all?

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But if your heart is set on an SUV, what's the best one?

Honda CRV is leading the polls at work..followed by Isuzu Rodeo.
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My son bought a Chevy Trailblazer...it has an amazing ride...like gliding on glass, some SUV's ride like a truck, this handles like a Cadillac. Its loaded with options and most importantly has a stereo that rivals concert halls.  The Navigators are also very nice...but on both these youre looking at sticker prices of near to over $30,000.
Jeep Cherokees are very popular around here.
I have friends who had Isuzu's and they spent a lot of time in the shop.
My husband drives a GMC Jimmy and its been very dependable and has a solid ride.
I'm assuming where you live, youre not needing it for the 4-wheel drive for snow


*I saw a report on the Today show, and they said Consumer Reports recently did a huge study on them and ranked them for repairs, gas milege, options, collision results and rollovers, as well as price tags, so maybe you can find that issue on line or at the library. Some smaller midsize foreign models dont have the engine size to back up the SUV expectations or price tag. Its really worth the effort to do your homework on this as the market is being flooded with SUV clones due to the popularity. Good luck!!
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I hate SUVs, but...if you want to find the best mid-sized SUV on the market, there is one magazine that tells it like it is, without any endorsements or money for the prodcuts reviewed ~ Consumer's Report.
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Head straight for Consumer's Report...or do not pass go, and do not collect $200...

I wouldn't have an SUV to date...they are not safe, from what I have read...

I won't have a PT Cruiser, either...
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This is from a man who, just last Fall, bought a cargo van with a 350 V8, so you should probably take it with a big grain of salt.

Now might not be the best time in history to buy a gas-guzzler. It's a little disconcerting to hear your vehicle giggle every time the prices go up again.
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Living in Jacksonville, FL, where we do not have snow, nor do we have any hills, and where in the norm, much traveling is needed to get to places one wants to go, and with gas prices rising, I just shake my head as I see so many SUVs on the road here.

Why? What is the purpose of owning these behomoths?

I have asked many owners, and here is a sample of the type of replies I get...

1. I need the room for taking kids places: (soccor, baseball, etc).

2. I feel safer.  

Every day when traveling to work, there are so many SUVs on the road here, yet just about every single one of them is occupied by only one person.

Here are the real reasons why people own SUVs in this area of the country...

1. The feeling of being superior to one's neighbor. Human nature of "looking down" on your neighbor in order to feel superior is alive and well.

2. Keeping up with the Jones'.

3. Status symbol.

4. And for the men who drive the really big ones ~ To hide their inadequate feelings.


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LOL at Opeth. I'm not sure all those things apply since the question was asked for a woman where I work.
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laughing, I was waiting for Opeth to show up, and I'm proud of you "O"--I truly thought your answer to the question

"What the best SUV?"

would be--

"A DEAD SUV."

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There are some small SUV's that get upwards of 25mpg.... I'd say any of those would be fine -- but -- other than that -- Opeth is right.

Buying a big gas guzzler would be downright unpatriotic in these times...

This from another man who has a big extended cargo van -- (with a 4.3 V6 18mpg -- probably more if I ever get around to fixing the drippy Throttle Body Injector) -- but -- the thing is -- the vehicle needs to be sized to it's utility -- mine is a business vehicle that's necessary -- some areas need an SUV -- but -- an Escalade or a Navigator are totally unnecessary.

The auto companies started pushing them because the CAFE standards (fuel economy) for TRUCKS was less than cars -- but the classification of an SUV as a Truck is about to go away...  emission standards are also different... that's why big V8 cars like the Crown Vic are made in Canada -- the emission standards for an IMPORT are less than for a domestic vehicle...

You just have to love lobbyists.
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18 MPG, LR? I'm doing good if I can get 13, and that's mostly open roads, without a load. (And before anyone asks, no, I don't drive the van at the same speeds I drive the Miata.)

Sadly, I don't even have the excuse of needing a gas-guzzler for business. Granted, part of the reason for the van was hauling. I did a lot of landscaping last year, plan to do more this year, and picking up 50 bags of mulch in the Miata sucks. But the primary reason I bought the van was for Winter driving. The Miata doesn't just get stuck in snow, it gets LOST in snow. So I got the biggest thing I could find.

Right. So I get a vehicle with rear-wheel drive. With most of the weight in front? I've gotten it stuck twice so far, and this wasn't even a heavy-snow year. Worse, the curb weight (no load, no driver) comes in at 4,752 pounds (2,154 Kg). Do you have any idea what happens when you get that much weight moving on a slippery road? Step on the brake and the van just laughs at you. Turn the steering wheel and the front tires just slide in the direction they were previously rolling. Newton said that any object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state, and I'm now convinced he drove a big van in Michigan.

You know, now that I think about it, Sharon, the van is really nothing more than an SUV on steroids. Think your friend would be interested? I'll even deliver it to her door.

Next year, I buy a hummer.
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If you just want something to haul stuff in find an Aerostar and pull the seats out of it.  I have one that I paid a dollar for with a 3.0 motor in it.  It gets 24 mpg.

Rear wheel drive.. sure.. but if front wheel drive was so hot Mercedes would have it... so would Indy cars...

Anyhow... the Aerostar handles super fine in snow -- better than any of my other vehicles or a 4 wheel drive... it was built on a Ranger frame so it is a truck... but the front ends were from Mustangs -- so it handles like a car.

[This message has been edited by Local Rebel (03-08-2003 10:50 PM).]

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Ron a Hummer is a Jeep on steroids!!!
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The best SUV is the one you can borrow from a friend when you need it.

I own a Bronco very powerful 351v8-- 12mpg city--14 hwy

My sister owns an Expedition--not as powerful but just almost as bad on fuel consumption

Our secreatary owns an Explorer- Weak engine and only gets 14 city and 18 hwy

The department operates both a Suburban and an Excursion-- suburban gets about 12 mpg --the excursion is a pos ( piece of crap) that handles like a boat on whitecaps and gets 7 mpg

A good friend has a dodge laredo-- what a hunk of junk--been in the shop more than the driveway and gets 10 mpg


I had use of a Jeep Grand Cherokee while my bronco was in the body shop-- handled well -had an almost car like ride and got nearly 18 mpg around town.


I'm thinking of getting a car.
A mitsubishi spyder is at the top of the current list.

J

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define midsize. i drive a jeep cherokee, and it's the best thing i've ever driven. it's not too big, has some storage space, is tough as nails, seats 5 (though a grand cherokee would seat them a little more comfortably, but i've never had any complaints), will NOT get stuck in the snow (though this does not make it necessarily STOP better in the snow!), and i've driven it through flooded roads that would stop most consumer vehicles. milage isn't that great (16-20mpg typically, getting down to around 14 if i'm jamming on it all the time and up to maybe 23mpg on a long highway drive), but it has plenty of get up and go, and the turning radius is excellent. also, it has less body roll than almost any other trucklike vehicle i've ever driven. it would take work to make this thing roll over. it has been extremely reliable (thanks to the good old amc-designed 4.0l engine and aisen warner 340h tranny, as well as a dual-solid axle suspension that can put up with some abuse) and i plan to hang onto it (or another like it) for as long as feasible.

downsides-chrysler service can be iffy, factory rotors are not good, fit and finish can be iffy, ride is rough with stock suspension/tires, there are certain caveats with certain years that should be checked out before buying.

in december, an ice storm came through nc and knocked down a lot of trees. the top 30 or 40 feet of a tree about twice that height fell directly on my cherokee, then falling on a car next to it, a large american sedan. damage report: my roof got dinged, a raingutter got almost knocked off, and the roof rack got beat up. the sedan next to it had the roof completely bashed in. one of my neighbors who came out to check out the damage said "wow, you could take that thing to war!), and i think he's right.
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Well... an old International ScoutII or an 800A are both pretty tough vehicles.. take a beating and keep on running..only problem is the last time they made them was in 1980..
but I have two...

 
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