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"We didn't start the fire..."

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hush
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0 posted 12-27-2002 03:27 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

"We didn't light it, but we're trying to fight it..."

Curious about peoples' takes on this song?
Christopher
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1 posted 12-27-2002 07:14 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I think it took an incredible amount of talent not only to write, but to sing as well.

But then, I'm rather partial to the man.
hush
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2 posted 12-27-2002 11:19 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Okay, what I'm really interested in is this- what does the song mean?

My boyfriend and I discussed this at length on day, with no consensus.

He said it was just Joel doing a rundown of things that have happenned in his lifetime.

The thing about that is, there's a negative tone cast onto it- the quote I pasted above, plus it also seems like he ends each verse with something negative-

"trouble in the sewage"

"JFK blown away, what else do I have to say?"

"Rock & Roll & Cola wars, I can't take it anymore!"

But, he also goes namedropping- Elvis, Kerouac, Hemingway... unless he means the death of these people? I'm having trouble orienting everything in its order, I'm not all that jazzed up on contemporary American history (my bad, should have hit that class up in high school...) but my boyfriend tells me all the events are chronologically arranged, and that seems about right...

It just doesn't seem that everything he cites in the song is negative... I mean, c'mon, John Glenn? I don't know the song ver batim (yet) so I guess I might be taking things out of context...
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3 posted 12-27-2002 12:44 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

http://www.wuerzburg.de/gym-fkg/schule/fachber/englisch/joel/songtext.html

Hush, this link might shed a little light.  Hope you enjoy...

Sun
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4 posted 12-28-2002 02:08 PM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Neat. Thanks Sunshine.
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I saw an interview of sorts with him once that was about the song and he said the was having a conversation with someone and they said that things were much harder now than before. So Joel started thinking about it and thought that it wasn't really true because such and such events happened before during his time and so on.. so "we didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning".

I don't know if that makes any sense. I just vaguely remember it.. hope that helps.

And she said, I thought I'd never see me again.

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http://www.its.caltech.edu/~yel/Fire.html


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7 posted 01-07-2003 02:25 PM       View Profile for brian madden   Email brian madden   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for brian madden

Personbally I always looked at the song as a photo snap of the 20th century, it is  amazing how far we have progressed  since the industrial revolution, at the turn of the century we had rail transport and automoblies, by the 60's we had people in space. I think the song is about how we are driven as a race to progess to evolve but how it can have a negative impact....
How our evolution and destruction go hand in hand.

To quote a lyric from another song
"DENY YOUR CULTURE OF CONSUMPTION. THIS IS THE CULTURE OF DESTRUCTION"    

watched from the wings as the scenes were replayed we saw ourselves now as we never have seen" ian curtis

 
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